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From the council warden, pulled up on the street next to the payment machine, paid using pay by phone from inside the car. Came back to find a ticket on the windscreen. He was stood on the pavement when we arrived and saw us get and leave. We would have been pretty cheeky not pay whilst he was watching us.
Got to go through the hassle of appealing it now. The irony is council's have to have someone to issue on the spot because that's better than getting it in the post apparently. Obviously doesn't work when electronic payment doesn't sync with their ticket machine.
You'll obviously have a message/email from the app people to verify the exact time of payment?
I was once issued a ticket in Bakewell in a Derbyshire dales car park. The ticket was stuck to the windscreen at the side of my Derbyshire dales parking permit. I was sat in the cast at the time and pointed this is out. He said "I can't see it"
Literally 10mm distance between the 2
paid using pay by phone from inside the car.
There’s your middle finger right there. Use it with vigour.
The plot thickens, turns out the PCN that was neatly tucked under the windscreen wiper isn't for our car. The registration is different. It does explain why we paid at 18:30 and the ticket was 18:31. I reckon the warden was ticketing the car parked behind us as we arrived and the cheeky driver has put it on our car hoping we'd pay it.
Faith restored in parking wardens, faith decreased in other drivers.
I got one in the post once from one of the London boroughs. Only ever driven in London once about 5 years earlier (and on the other side of the River). The reg and description was different. Appealed, heard nothing. Result presumably.
Question is how did I get it at my address? Reg did not match. GIGO presumably.
I got one in the post once from one of the London boroughs. Only ever driven in London once about 5 years earlier (and on the other side of the River). The reg and description was different
We got one from a Grimsby council debt agency. When I checked the photo evidence online it wasn’t our car either. I emailed them & said, ‘on this occasion I will not be paying the fine, please check your records & send the parking officer to Specsavers’. Got a reply saying, ‘on this occasion you are not required to pay the fine’.
No shit.
GIGO presumably.
The cameras do misread but there should have been a manual check as well to confirm the reg. Mind you with a council wouldnt surprise me if they had to manually key in the regcto get the keepers details. You could actually have complained to the DVLA about that, it's a GDPR breach if they got your details without good reason.
To be fair they’re pretty good about sorting out errors. I’ve had 3 recently, 1 a meeting over ran, another at FoD parked 1/2 mile up a fire road when a race was on and the 3rd picked the wrong car in the parking app - all 3 appealed, all 3 cancelled. Can’t really complain at that.
We got a parking fine for a shopping carpark from a private firm. My wife was there for 3hours and 18 minutes and the limit was 3. We appealed on the fact that she was at the shops shopping with her elderly mother and there was a long food hall que wait. We provided receipts with an appeal letter and they actually accepted the appeal which was quite surprising!
drew27, depends which private parking company it is and what their business model is based on. The more reputable companies will grant up to 60% of the appeals, the less reputable ones won't. Often depends who the land owner is, if it's NHS or a big supermarket chain it's not in the parking companies interest to chase down every marginal PCN, even if as in your case the rules were broken. It causes the land owner grief and gets expensive. However if you do appeal keep it factual and polite and it'll often be granted. Be rude or start quoting bits of internet law and you'll end up in the take to court pile. They've heard it all before.
We got a parking fine for a shopping carpark from a private firm. My wife was there for 3hours and 18 minutes and the limit was 3. We appealed on the fact that she was at the shops shopping with her elderly mother and there was a long food hall que wait. We provided receipts with an appeal letter and they actually accepted the appeal which was quite surprising!
I received a parking ticket of £100 a few weeks ago, also in a shopping area car park in town, having been out for lunch with my mum and dad. I had paid for 2 hours and was there for 2 hrs 10 minutes. I appealed it and I've received the reply just this morning - they're refused the appeal and upheld the fine. Ten quid a minute for overstaying seems rather steep, to say the least.
At the moment I'm favouring telling them to **** off
I reckon the warden was ticketing the car parked behind us as we arrived and the
cheeky@hole driver has put it on our car hoping we’d pay it
Fixed that for you
This just another example of what’s wrong with the world. It’s full of absolute bellends
It’s full of absolute bellends
It is indeed. I would just the ticket in the bin. I'm assuming the fine is less if paid within a certain amount of days? Then @hole driver will hopefully then just get a bigger fine due to non-payment.
I think the car driver may have thought you would appeal against it and get it cancelled and therefore cheeky driver gets away with it.
Dad got one recently. For a place they haven't been to in years. (bit to far as they are both 80 + and nowt there anyway) Reg/make of car isn't theirs even. Letter is addressed to my dad With his name reversed using his christian name as a surname first followed by initial of his surname as, I guess , his first initial.
How the hell did they even link the name wrong to the address and the car? No phone number or even for the governing body of parking companies . Online is payment only so a sotty letter was wriiten. Awaiting response.
Is it possible that the traffic warden just mistakenly put the ticket on the wrong car, perhaps after being distracted by the driver parking and seeming to walk away without paying?
Is it possible that the traffic warden just mistakenly put the ticket on the wrong car
I did wonder that but with hindsight I think he was already writing the ticket out when we got there, I'm keeping the ticket we got for 6 months just in case.
I would just the ticket in the bin
Keeping it for the above reason but no intention of doing anything with it now. Councils have a lot more power to pursue and put up costs than private companies so whoever the ticket was for will get caught up with eventually.
Binners there are always people who fall close to the limits, should have at least a 10 minute grace period though so either you were just outside that or..... guessing it was a private company if the PCN was £100, don't you still get a chance to pay the discounted rate after appealing? Trouble is the rules are set by the land owner not the car park company, enforcement costs money, cameras aren't free and even generating the paperwork costs. The severity of the over stay doesn't impact the cost of the enforcement which is what the PCN value is covering, not the perceived loss to the land owner.
If you're not going to pay ignore it, don't tell them to sod off, the PCN values were confirmed in law as reasonable through Beavis vs Parkingeye, disputing the value of the PCN vs the infringement will get you no where. Which car park, I might want to give it a miss in future? Guessing the difference with drew27 and yourself is they were legit customers and exceeded the free parking limit, you parked in a revenue generating car park and didn't pay enough.
3rd picked the wrong car in the parking app
Minster Baywatch have a lot of the Hereford contracts. I picked the wrong car in Ringgo and their first response was it was not a mitigating reason for the fine to be reduced/cancelled. Brilliantly tho they are really slow at responding (35 days is their SLA!) and then they need to give you 14 days to respond. All the time your fine is on hold.
So I'd wait 48 days or something and then query/challenge something in their last response. After EIGHT months, they said okay pay £20 now (rather than original £100) and NEVER CONTACT US AGAIN. So that was fun 🙂
drew27, depends which private parking company it is and what their business model is based on.
Yeah I go to one place regularly which has the private company with 4 hours free parking if you are booked on at the centre.
Managed to forget to enter my reg on a couple of occasions over the last couple of years but every time have appealed with "sorry I had a session booked but must have forgot/miskeyed my reg" and been cancelled each time without hassle.
Cant complain especially since the charge means the carpark is now actually usable in the afternoons in the summer rather than completely jammed cos it was the only free parking in the area.