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The whole Royal Family need to **** off into History.
The Roundheads will rise again....
The Roundheads will rise again….
Happy to be in a Republic but not a Puritan one tho… BTW many Roundheads wanted rid of the absolutist monarchy to be replaced by a constitutional monarchy as we have now.
Northumberland here - passed a few street parties while out on the bike, lots of bunting in the little villages, not so much in the various towns though...
*looks out of window over German city* No nothing here! 😉
Wot - no "I love Russia" banners ?
Nothing in Lisbon either, though I was rather hoping to hear the Sex Pistols blaring out from somewhere.
Visiting the UK at the moment and down here in the South East the sale of flags and bunting has made someone very rich.
Sat in the kitchen listening to the fridge, somehow let the wife gain dominion over the remote.
Although I'm a republican I don't mind the Queen (70 years of service blah blah) but the toadying and arse licking is just unbearable.
Well done love, have a carriage clock, don't let the door hit your arse on the way out
I'm currently on a campsite in Cheddar. The tent field has no obvious signs at all but the adjacent caravan site is completely festooned with flags and bunting. This confirms all of my prejudices.
Over here in the Canaries not a tweet about the festivities.
Bad jokes aside I do watch BBC news worldwide whilst having breakfast, couldn’t stomach it today. Far too much @rse licking going on. It was that bad I turned over to C4 and watched a rerun of Fraser, yep things were that bad!
God save the Queen
A fascist regime
They made you a moron
Potential H-bombGod save the Queen
She ain’t no human being
There is no future
In England’s dreamingDon’t be told about what you want
Don’t be told about what you need
No future, no future, no future for youGod save the Queen
We mean it, man
We love our Queen
God savesGod save the Queen
Tourists are money
But our figurehead
Is not what she seemsGod save history
God save your mad parade
Oh Lord, have mercy!
All crimes are paidWhen there’s no future, how can there be sin?
We’re the flowers in the dustbin
We’re the poison in the human machine
We’re the future, we’re the futureGod save the Queen
We mean it, man
We love our Queen
God savesGod save the Queen
We mean it, man
We love our Queen
God savesNo future, no future
No future, no future
No future, no future
No future, no future
No future,no future
No future, no future
No future for you
Remind me. Did he write that before or after he did those ads for butter?
vRemind me. Did he write that
before or after he did those ads for butter?
ftfy they absolute walloper can barely string a sentence together.
I live in leafy Kent, right opposite a village green with a beacon. There wasn't many people out to celebrate, even here there's a cost of living crisis going on and it's a bit crass to sing songs in praise of the hereditary rich.
We've got an actual castle just up the road. It used to be owned by a prominent UKIP donor, before he died. It's now owned by a Chinese investment business. Speaking of just up the road, we've a turd-strewn Brexit lorrypark that extends all the way to Maidstone. Every morning you'll see a lorry on it's side, caught out by the narrow lanes. A tank of diesel for my mid-2000s sub two litre saloon car is north of £100.
Local farm/farm shop/cafe down the road held a Jubilee event tonight - BBQ, bands, bar. We wandered down for the lighting of the beacon* and met a couple of friends we've not seen for ages, nice way to spend an hour. Probably a couple of hundred people there, mainly families.Not a single flag was shagged.
*it was advertised as a beacon, but Andrew the farmer had basically just piled up everything around the farm that needed getting rid off and had a huge bonfire under the pretext of Jubilee celebrations
Just back from the beacon lighting, Kent coast, somewhere with a very strong sense of community I.e. not commuter-ville lol. Despite nothing at all actually happening bar the lighting, big crowd (few hundred I’d say), pleasant atmosphere. Tried to be an STW-approved miseryguts about it but failed, sorry 😀
Meh, my missus and MIL are well into the propaganda, it's fine, I've had to staple some bunting and a union flag up out front and we have some disposable, patriotic tableware.
I get two extra days off, and an elderly lady born into disgusting wealth and privilege gets a big ol' party. It doesn't really do me any harm in the grand scheme of things...
TBH I liked the ‘77 street party one I went to(Brizzle,Redfield).
But tbh there were only probably 4 cars in the street then,dunno if there would be the space to pop the pasting tables down the middle and over the years the camber got mad.
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Just walked the dog in South Manchester, some bunting out at a few houses. Nothing crazy. We've not got anything ourselves.
I get two extra days off, and an elderly lady born into disgusting wealth and privilege gets a big ol’ party. It doesn’t really do me any harm in the grand scheme of things…
Think that's my view. Lots of people have wealth and privilege, but obviously it's the Royal family who are responsible for the state of the nation, definitely not the governments of the last 70 years.
Focus people. The Queen/jubilee are a dead cat corgi.
My MiL, west country near Taunton. She lives next to a right curmudgeon, in a row of old Bath stone cottages back from the road. This old lady (everyone in the area calls her Prickly Joan) is always finding something to complain about and as a result most people avoid her when they can.
So my MiL was out yesterday putting some bunting up along her front fence, nothing too extravagant but joining in, when Joan comes out. 'Oh gawd' thinks MiL, about to get another bollocking for something - but Joan's almost pleasant..... isn't the Queen marvellous, did you see her with her great grandson, wasn't it lovely, etc. They chatted for longer than they've done for years, and maybe she's not so bad after all.
Joan went off on her trip to wherever, MiL carried on, and finding that the bunting was long enough stretched it along Joan's fence a bit as well, seeing as she clearly likes the Queen.
She came home last night to find Joan's removed the bunting from her fence. Not only that, she's cut the excess into smaller pieces and shoved it into the MiL's bin, without a word. Near Taunton, the jubilee is cancelled, now **** off.
Whose Mum is Joan?
Looking at all this from the outside, I had a bit of a think about what is wrong with this entire celebration and came to the following conclusion.
Most countries have national days and go out and wave flags and it doesn't feel weird. In England (being brutally honest, this is an English thing since the Union Jack means something very different in Scotland and NI) it looks and feels very very weird.
I couldn't figure out why and then I realised that most countries sense of self and the flag and the monarchy/head of state are all in service of the entire community. The national days are genuinely days of everyone saying, 'Aren't we all great!'
In England, the flag, the monarchy, the military (WW2 seems to always get brought up at these things), and The Empire all somehow get rolled into one and are brutally fetishised rather than simply celebrated. People are exercising their over-enthusiasm for an extremely questionable institution in public and it's weird. It's kind of like watching Furries going at it in the middle of the high street.
but obviously it’s the Royal family who are responsible for the state of the nation, definitely not the governments of the last 70 years.
The heir to the post has form for interfering in local affairs in his neck of the woods in an undemocratic manner and is expected to go national when he sits in the big chair.
I have some sympathy for those that will have to work polishing their boots and making sure their dress uniform is just so. Standing around in that in this weather will not be a barrel of laughs.
In England, the flag, the monarchy, the military, and The Empire all somehow get rolled into one and are brutally fetishised rather than simply celebrated.
Well in my part of England, there's a lot more simple celebration than brutal fetishism going on this weekend as far as I can see. A few barbecues, a bit of bunting, kids enjoying themselves, neighbours getting to know each other a bit better. A bit of community bonding even. Awful I know... I'm ambivalent at best about the monarchy, but FFS it's just an extended bank holiday with a bit of an excuse for some partying. I suspect a great many of those enjoying themselves aren't die hard royalists either, just ordinary people daring to have a bit fun despite the joyless, sneering contempt of their would be intellectual betters.
In England, the flag, the monarchy, the military (WW2 seems to always get brought up at these things), and The Empire all somehow get rolled into one and are brutally fetishised rather than simply celebrated. People are exercising their over-enthusiasm for an extremely questionable institution in public and it’s weird.
This is pretty much what I despair at, like if you're not conspicuously out banging a pan on Thursdays for the NHS or festooning every flat surface with poppies from the middle of August you're somehow Not Patriotic. But you can't even try to talk these people round, because if you try then you're NOt PAatr!OTiC!1!111!!! **** the ****ing lot of the ****ers, ****s.
Bunting? Change the B for a C.
nah, you’re over thinking it. It [i]is[/i] a cultural thing though - a lot of British people still think it’s their god-given duty to be miserable ****s and hate everything. Fortunately a lot of us have also moved on from that and can have a bit of fun 😀 🇬🇧I couldn’t figure out why and then I realised that most countries sense of self and the flag and the monarchy/head of state are all in service of the entire community. The national days are genuinely days of everyone saying, ‘Aren’t we all great!’
to be miserable **** and hate everything
Not everything, but the celebration of inequality and accidents of birth can get in the ****ing sea.
In England, the flag, the monarchy, the military (WW2 seems to always get brought up at these things), and The Empire all somehow get rolled into one and are brutally fetishised rather than simply celebrated
By a mentally disturbed minority, and pandered too by the Government and the Press to act as a distraction from the bigger underlying issues.
. I suspect a great many of those enjoying themselves aren’t die hard royalists either, just ordinary people daring to have a bit fun despite the joyless sneering contempt of their intellectual betters.
And this. Anyone who thinks that the monarchy reinforces some sort of forelock tugging subservience needs to have a look at their own insecurities before taking the high moral ground with their inverse snobbery.
Plenty of Chinese made UK flags here in the red wall celebrating patriotism.
In England, the flag, the monarchy, the military (WW2 seems to always get brought up at these things), and The Empire all somehow get rolled into one and are brutally fetishised rather than simply celebrated. People are exercising their over-enthusiasm for an extremely questionable institution in public and it’s weird. It’s kind of like watching Furries going at it in the middle of the high street.
As above, a lot of are making the most of a sunny two free days off work to have some fun, fettle or ride bikes have a pub lunch with the family etc.
However more to your point you need to remember that because of the misgivings of the past also carried forth by some groups today and explained during the cultural environment of current times that in many places it’s pretty much branded racist for an ordinary Englishman to wave a flag and celebrate thier country at any other time.
My cup de sac is having a big party and there is bunting between the houses going across the street. Fair play it looks good. I will be on holiday for the party, thank goodness!
I always amazed at how many people look at me like I'm crazy for wanting rid.
If there was a referendum the royals would stay imo.
my 2 penneth.
if it was not for our royalty, and our royal history we would be completely funked.
who would anyone come to visit and spend in this shit hole of a country ?
no yanks, chinese, japanese, even russian money.
and our towns and cities void of anything royal. funked.
and anyone north of the border would still be running around in skirts with their faces painted blue.
running around in skirts
wot like this ?
though blue face paint probably predates the kilt by about 1300 years
I find patriotism a bit odd really. Doesn’t make me angry or a miserable fun sponge though. If there’s free cake and/or booze I’ll go along with pretty much anything.
I think we would be better off without a royal family. Most of the tabloids would go bust which is great. We could also have a less miserable looking face on our money.
and anyone north of the border would still be running around in skirts with their faces painted blue.
I think you'll find they still are.
and anyone north of the border would still be running around in skirts with their faces painted blue.
You know we ran out of monarchs for a while and had to import them from Scotland, don't you?
Most countries have national days and go out and wave flags and it doesn’t feel weird
I think what makes it feel awkward is the imperial aspect of it. Similar to the US. In the UK the flag waving is linked to the Empire, the idea of which has superiority built into it. That has two problems: One is the real history of that Empire and all the horrors and injustice built into it, which don't bear celebrating; the other is how the idea of superiority clash with the history and the current shit state of the country. And wilfully ignoring the latter whilst celebrating the former.
If you take say Finnish independence day, it's about liberation from oppression and a perfectly justifiable cause for remembrance and celebration. But US independence day is more loaded, again because of the contrast between sentiment and history.
and anyone north of the border would still be running around in skirts with their faces painted blue.
You know the first kind of Scotland and England was already the king of scotland right? He was also pretty instrumental in the concept of reading by sponsoring the translation of the bible into english.
If it wasn't for scotland you would be riding a hobby horse made of solid iron on solid tyres on rough roads all the while dying of consumption and or diabetes. And you'd be keeping your money in a pouch because you'd not have the bank of England.
So while we may have been runnign around in skirts and blue faces bear in mind while we were doing that we were also being invaded and raped by a bunch of mad ****s from south of the border.
So go **** yourself ya dick. 😀
no yanks, chinese, japanese, even russian money.
IT's funny, I grew up surrounded by american and japanese tourists like thousands of them... golf and whisky and the victorian invention of "tartan scotland" seem to do pretty bloody well!
so basically your entire post was a pile of ignorant bullshit
To the OP I'm not sure the Queen has had her Golden Jubilee yet if you live in Bristol 😉
if it was not for our royalty, and our royal history we would be completely funked.
who would anyone come to visit and spend in this shit hole of a country ?
France got rid of their monarchy a long time ago but remain the most visited country on earth. People still want to visit Versailles.
Well thought out.
I find patriotism a bit odd really.
Depends really doesn't it? You can express that you really like the country you're from and you're happy that it's a great place to live, that's cool, but if you think the above and you also think that above all other nations your country is exceptional...then that might cause issues.
The Queen is of her time, and I'd expect it'll catch up when a younger generation take over. The Monarchy reinvents itself endlessly (like most long lived institutions) After all It wasn't that long ago that the Queen was being criticised for just televising the Christmas speech.
France does ok for tourism. I think the tourism thing is BS tbf.
So go **** yourself ya dick. 😀
Heaven's sake, put your shirt back on 😯
over-enthusiasm for an extremely questionable institution in public and it’s weird. It’s kind of like watching Furries going at it in the middle of the high street.
Sorry, where's this happening? And is Nicholas Witchell providing a respectful commentary?
So go **** yourself ya dick. 😀
nice one man...cheers.
as for france, i think it is a bit nice place than the UK.
why would you choose to come to this shit hole ? moreso scotland.
places like edinburgh and stirling would be nothing without the royal connection. and places like balmoral and braemare would still be cattle rearing farmsteads.
the uk is built on royal history..... nothing more.
hey Ton - how do you define a yorkshireman? A scotsman without the generosity 🙂
lol...that didnt take long Teej. ;o)
moreso scotland.
places like edinburgh and stirling would be nothing without the royal connection. and places like balmoral and braemare would still be cattle rearing farmsteads
Aye, nothing else here. It's a waste land. Only crowds of tourists keen to see Queenie and a few crumbling royal palaces in a couple of cities.
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uk is built on royal history.... nothing more
Eh? This country had a reasonably developed navy, and had military tech a bit ahead of Asian countries and a long way ahead of the Americas and Africa, so got footholds round the world. It then because of the lucky proximity of coal and iron was one of the first places to an industrial revolution, burning through energy in dozens of years that took thousand for plants to store and be fossilised, becoming for a time a global superpower. None of which had anything to do with royalty, but had a massive impact on us normal folks, here and around the world.
The history you were taught in school is basically family history of a few parasitic warlords and their descendants.
EH ???
was Henry the 8th king of england when he started the royal navy.
I’m ambivalent at best about the monarchy, but FFS it’s just an extended bank holiday with a bit of an excuse for some partying
This is the attitude that really grates with me. I mean if you think a Monarchy is a good idea go celebrate and be happy, I couldn't care less, but why celebrate the existence of something you are "at best ambivalent" about. Oh it's because they gave you a day off to do their propaganda for them...how stupid do you need to be?
how stupid do you need to be?
Depends, are there free baked goods?
Heaven’s sake, put your shirt back on 😯
Ahahahah. i thought the smiley face would indicate i was firmly tongue in cheeking it.
This is the attitude that really grates with me. I mean if you think a Monarchy is a good idea go celebrate and be happy, I couldn’t care less, but why celebrate the existence of something you are “at best ambivalent” about. Oh it’s because they gave you a day off to do their propaganda for them…how stupid do you need to be?
Because I'm not celebrating the monarchy! I am using the welcome excuse the jubliee has provided to join in with some community based frivolity. It doesn't happen often enough and it would be great if we could find other reasons (perhaps more acceptable to the political commissars) to do more of it. It's a bit of fun. There really is nothing more to it than that. Is it really such a hard concept to understand? No imperialistic agenda, no forelock tugging, no flag shagging. Just friends and neighbours sharing a few beers, catching up, having a barbecue. What a weird concept eh? If people having the temerity to enjoy themselves really grates so much, you must find life in general very difficult.
how stupid do you need to be?
Well done. What a class act 👏
You know we ran out of monarchs for a while and had to import them from Scotland, don’t you?
They did turn out to be a bit rubbish though and so had to be binned off.
Just friends and neighbours sharing a few beers, catching up, having a barbecue.
You say that but before you know it someone will raise a glass to the queen.
You should be ashamed of yourself.
I don't know where this idea that republicans are miserable came from. All the best comedians are leftwing and republicans are iconoclastic and the opposite to arse kissing obsequious. Didn't the great man theory of history die out with the Victorians? Kinnell, we'd all be goosestepping around if we followed Edward VIII.
Bunting and flags at the Moulin Inn yesterday, didn't affect my mid ride lunch and pint.
was Henry the 8th king of england when he started the royal navy.
True but the monarchy became constitutional rather than absolute after the Glorious Revolution and the Bill of Rights in 1689, so after that they had little to do with the UKs progress in the last 300+ years apart from leeching off it.
PS very happy republican here 🙂
Couldn't really tell here in St Werb's either.
Normal service resumes at The Farm
PS very happy republican here 🙂
You see, this is the point....... Her Majesty is so marvelous and inspirational that even republicans are "very happy".
Gawd bless you ma'am.
It’s a bit of fun. There really is nothing more to it than that
Well done you, nope you are quite correct literally nothing more to it than that 🤔
Well done you, nope you are quite correct literally nothing more to it than that
For most of us, it is. For some nutty flag shaggers, the insecure and the paranoid, it might be more.
"I'd rather be flag burning"
Well done you, nope you are quite correct literally nothing more to it than that 🤔
For me there isn't and I'm guessing for lots of other people too. But hey what do I know, clearly you understand my own motives better than I do. Maybe I am just stupid as you say? Something for me to think about.
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Is it OK to just not give a sh!t?
Is it possible to do that without being called a miserable b*gger for not joining in?
Asking for a friend.
I think what many of us don't understand (about many aspects of conservative British life, but which manifests itself so obviously with the monarchy) is the mindless acceptance of it. Seems harmless but look a little deeper and it's a sinister system designed to keep the masses servile. The unwillingness to challenge is bizarre.
I was taught from an early age that no-one was better than me because of entitlement, respect is earned, and I certainly don't accept anyone reigning over me.
Seems harmless but look a little deeper and it’s a sinister system designed to keep the masses servile.
And some claim that the Queen is reptilian....... how sinister is that ffs?
the mindless acceptance of it. Seems harmless
For me there isn’t and I’m guessing for lots of other people too.
Yep it's all harmless keeping the masses in place and the royals on top. I note from the news even Boris brushed his hair for the occasion, couldn't be arsed when thousands are dying but if it's just some harmless fun celebrating Her Majesty he can do it!
Is it OK to just not give a sh!t?
Of course, it's also fine to celebrate if you like the royals too. It's just the blind acceptance of it all by those who say they are "at best ambivalent" that grates for me.
designed to keep the masses servile.
it’s all harmless keeping the masses in place
Unlike countries such as the United States or France that have freed themselves from the shackles of oppression?
No wonder the masses in the United States are so uppity.......no one to keep them in their place.
It’s just the blind acceptance of it all by those who say they are “at best ambivalent” that grates for me.
You 'say all those', but you are directly quoting me at least, have the courage to say what you mean directly! I don't blindly accept anything, there you go again, reading my innermost thoughts better than I can. You're a bit too handy with the personal insults for me, I'm afraid. So carry on with the 'stupid' comments or whatever else makes you feel happy but I won't be responding in kind or indeed engaging with you anymore at all. In 5 or 6 years on this forum, this is the first time I've felt the need to say that to anyone. Well done.
Whose Mum is Joan?
Having just read the whole thread, I reckon that Joan is the surrogate mum for a great percentage of the pantie wetting STW'ers on here. 🤣
With such profound insights hopefully you'll go far.
Having just read the whole thread, I reckon that Joan is the surrogate mum for a great percentage of the pantie wetting STW’ers on here.
I think I'd rather be a pantie wetter than someone who can only get aroused whilst making eye contact with their favourite picture of Liz whilst rubbing themselves vigorously with bunting to the pre-recorded sound of Lancasters and Spitfires flying overhead playing on a loop at full volume.
Incontinence is treatable, after all.
People still want to visit Versailles.
10 million visitors per year, despite having finally binned their monarchy for good over 150 years ago.
at least, have the courage to say what you mean directly!
Pretty sure I have.
Seems harmless but look a little deeper and it’s a sinister system designed to keep the masses servile. The unwillingness to challenge is bizarre.
The monarchy is not the system that is keeping down the masses. Look at the politicians and their media enablers.
I was taught from an early age that no-one was better than me because of entitlement, respect is earned, and I certainly don’t accept anyone reigning over me.
The Queen isn't better than me, she just has a different job.
There's a royal bush in the village.
The Queen isn’t better than me, she just has a different job.
What a load of bollocks. Can anyone apply?
The monarchy is not the system that is keeping down the masses. Look at the politicians and their media enablers.
Just because 2 things can push in the same direction it doesn't lessen the impact of one of them