[Closed] Jools Holland's "Hoot" whatever it is...

Wasn't the best lineup I've seen. Didn't really get the adoration for the fat criminal.

s this programme just looking tired and pointless?

Yes, unfortunately! 🙁

Takes all sorts - I thought the music was good

Embarrassing amateur "flamenco" guitarists.

you're wrong there

agree on the rest though

Never liked I think Jools is a prick with his head so far up his arse he can lick his tonsils.

t®ibal©hief - Member

Embarrassing amateur "flamenco" guitarists.

you're wrong there

I recommend you listen to Paco de Lucia as an example of how it should be done..

I'm afraid those two just sounded like they'd come off a "Teach Yourself Flamenco" two-week busking tutorial. The guy taking the lead parts looked and sounded like he was battling arthritis.

Feh.

It's not even live.

I enjoyed it. Best not to be over analysed imo...it's just a new year's eve prog with a bit of varied music. Got to be better than Graham Norton on BBC1.

Yeah but they're not actually playing flamenco... that's the point. They both played in thrash & death metal bands before going down this route so there's a bit of a different influence going on.

As usual I liked some of it, couldn't be arsed with other bits. JH is well past his best before date tho & the whole show needs to be updated

Rodrigo y Gabriela are the best!
Go see them live - they are fantastic!

(They always state that their music and playing is not flamenco).

They are unique and fabulous - 10 / 10

KINGTUT:

It's not even live.

You lie!

*runs out the room crying*

tyger - Member

Rodrigo y Gabriela are the best!
Go see them live - they are fantastic!

(They always state that their music and playing is not flamenco).

They are unique and fabulous - 10 / 10

They're a couple of inept amateurs who can't play for toffee. Flamenco (which is what it sounded like they were TRYING to play) or not. The bloke looked like he was having to concentrate REALLY HARD to deliver his five notes-to-the-bar Simple Simon fumbling. I thought at one point he was actually going to stick his tongue out to accompny his furrowed forehead... Accompanied by the female's out of time pointless thrash-strumming in a completely different set of registers totally unrelated to whatever key the bloke was trying to play in. Give me break. 😡

i agree with nuke it must have been better than norton and the other two irish pr**ks deadwood, i`m not knocking the irish either,

gaz

huge sickly celebrity love in I thought. The low points for me were:

-Boy George singing about being in prison (quite liked him as an artist for a long time but 🙄 really, my heart bleeds!)

-Florence (of 'and the manchine') likening being there in the studio to "being in a giant box of quality street".

I was really looking forward to Rodrigo y Gabriela. They have sounded better however, and I am not convinced by the new 'effects pedal' direction. (there is a wah wah pedal on the latest album 😯 ) They do not profess to be flamenco and apparently delight in telling people they were kicked out of the academy/conservatory/whatever its called in mexico for being too unconventional and using a plectrum.

Mr Woppit, do you play? Most people I know who really rate RyG are musicians or proper jazz beard types. (FWIW i have a beard, some 'entry level' jazz cd's and i would put myself just inside the upper 30% of guitar radness based on the stratobiker-STW- blues-youtube-medley-thingy-rating-scale, and I think they are rather unconventional, clearly huge metalheads at the weekends, but basically very accomplished)

I didn't see the performance, but I know Rodrigo y Gabriela go to great lengths to make it known that they are not flamenco guitarists. Whatever genre they are, I've seen them live and though they were great, but I'm no expert on flamenco.

Mr Woppitt

They're a couple of inept amateurs who can't play for toffee.

You're going to have to try harder than that 🙂

Happy New Year btw!

Jamie - Member

KINGTUT:

It's not even live.

You lie!

*runs out the room crying*

Fraid not, filmed 10 days before apparently.

Ignore me, I'm just feeling rancid because I can't solve my internet problems. Again.

They're average, I suppose. 😕

Really liked their Buster Voodoo, it illustrates their style well. They play music which clearly & honestly references their influences and if you like the influences then you'll probably find something to enjoy in their style.

Perhaps Mr Woppit is just not a fan of some of the most influential & successful guitarists?

Adrian Borland

I thought Boy George had a neck brace on. Apparently not, he's just stopped painting a jaw line onto his big fat head.

I think it was obvious they weren't trying to be pure flamenco guitarists. We can all look forward to MrWoppits appearance next year showing us a non average rendition

I think it would be a terrible thing to listen to music whilst analysing the competency of the technique. Mr Woppit, are you one of those people who stands in front of the guitarist at gigs looking sullen, waiting for them to make a mistake?

Mr Woppit, do you play guitar yourself?

just asking, mind. I can just about play guitar, and I thought they were rather good. But as my handle might suggest, I'm not a guitarist 😉

fatuous carping b'stards.

KINGTUT - Member

Jamie - Member

KINGTUT:

It's not even live.

You lie!

*runs out the room crying*

Fraid not, filmed 10 days before apparently.

In November apparently!

I'm glad it's not just me then .Used to be good then they fessed up about it not being live took the point of it away .They said at the time what do you expect ? Well the least is that it is actually happening at the time !Let me guess Rowland Rivron in the audience mumbling some shite or other ?

I really enjoyed it!

I'm really looking for Woppit's link to his Myspace page where we can give our own critique of his totally authentic style of flamenco, learned from the masters over many years in Valencia and Madrid.
Or he can stop being an arrogant know-nothing arse and STFU. His choice

it was ok, but Al Murry needs to get a new act!!

I think he did STFU - nothing for 6 hours now

Not sure which was worse, that, or the brainless Mylene Class on BBC1 messing up her lines.
She had to read them from a great big piece of card ffs!

Well, excuse me all over the place for having an opinion, I'm sure. Hangovers, is it? 🙄

Xipe Totec - Member

I'm really looking for Woppit's link to his Myspace page where we can give our own critique of his totally authentic style of flamenco, learned from the masters over many years in Valencia and Madrid.
Or he can stop being an arrogant know-nothing arse and STFU. His choice

Ah, an armchair bully. From behind the keyboard.

From the safest places, come the bravest words...

lol @ Ag 😀

Ah, an armchair bully. From behind the keyboard

you started it..... 😉

... and finished it, but you obviously didn't read that post. Lazy as well as a bigmouth.

No offense. 8)

efficient rather than lazy.

can't see your post which finished the matter of you being a bigmouth guitar god?

you never did answer my question though. So I'll ask it again: can you play guitar, Mr Woppit?

Of course, in listening to me play the guitar (which I can't) and then listening to say, Jimmy Page play the guitar - if you weren't a guitarist yourself, offering an opinion as to the whether one was better than the other would IMMEDIATELY attract the opprobrium of the various forumites inhabiting this very thread... I mean, how VERY DARE YOU have an opinion about it!

Feh. Load of nonsense.

Happy New Year.

aha! I thought so.

it's like all those "art critics" who can't even do painting by numbers...

Al murray ,what is the point of that guy.
and john drummer does that mean if someone asks you about 'last nights whatevever' you do not pass comment as you are not an expert?

I once saw Jools Holland interviewing Moz on the show. He and the band were all wearing identical brown suits. In the interview at the piano, Mozza said (with perfect straight face) the suit he had on was left to him in the actor Stanley Baker's will - he said it was the same suit Baker wore in the 1950's film "Helldrivers".

Holland fell for it hook line and sinker and it was only then a faint smirk appeared on the Mancunian crooner's face...

yeah, generally.

I'd be happy to say "I don't like Karma Chameleon", for example, but to criticise the guitar playing, or harmonica, is beyond me. I could maybe have a go at the drumming, but as the guy playing was a pro and way better than me, would be kind of churlish. do you see where I'm going?

Name me a film you don't like and tell me why...

Mamma Mia. It's full of Abba songs. and I don't like Abba.

Why not?

never did

you're not going to get me to criticise Abba - to be frank I admire them.
I just don't like their music, any more than I like Country & Western, or "R'n'B". Simply not to my taste. Probably any more than the music that [i]is[/i] to my taste doesn't do anything for you.

Be a good film if there were no Abba songs, eh?

Jools is a legend.

Cant stand the Jimmy the Cricket look a like
So so dead and boring show too
Look at the line up! il walk the plank first 😉

it wouldn't be a film without the Abba songs. come on you can do better than that

Yes, I know.

anyway, the point I'm trying to make is that one can have an opinion about something, without going overboard and [i]criticising[/i] something that one is not qualified to criticise.

you may not have liked Rodrigo y whatever her name is, that's fine.

night all

"qualified", eh?

They are all shite.

😡

This guy is good to listen to 8)

And

not flamenco[like i'd know 😆 ]but a damn good guitarist all the same