[Closed] Jobs and retraining - fastest way to 35k pa

Mugging.

Have you ever worked in sales?

That for me would be the fastest way. It's hard work with lots of pressure but rewards are excellent for the right people.

How old are you?

If you have the aptitude etc, RAF take direct entrant SNCO's (SGT) in air traffic and aircrew branches. After 18 months of training you earn in excess of £35k and after 8 years I was earning £42.5k

Drug dealing and /or Pimping

Sales
How about a site selling apple products, Audis/Skodas and some 29 er single speed belt driven niche stuff with a side line in IT

theres a job going at the BBC

comes with around 310 days a year holiday also

Drug dealing and /or Pimping

Sales

Same thing, shirley.

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Drug dealing and /or Pimping

Sales

Same thing, shirley.

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(*edit - Oh, teh ironing of a double post saying "Same thing"! 😉 )

Join a big accountancy firm, if you have a 2.1 or first then through their graduate program, otherwise through their school leavers program?

When I was 25 I earned more than that working as a waiter at Pizza Express...seriously.

I was working about sixty hours a week though and it was a shite job...

fluffer?

Microsoft SQL Server DBA? / Devloper?

Just do whatever you like, but get Bob to sort your wage negotiations

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Lots of jobs going in child care soon as the ones who have done wrong are in prison, also try the bbc.

Retraining requires a job at the end of it and a basic knowledge of the new job.

If you have any aptitude, programming is good as you don't need to "retrain" as such, you can teach yourself. If you have no aptitude, stay away though as the world really doesn't need any more journeymen developers just in it for the pay packet.

I'm not sure why anyone would want to retrain AND take a pay cut to £35k.

Oh.

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What do you enjoy doing? I'd focus on that and try to find a balance instead of mindlessly chasing a figure.

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Interesting thread. Something I'd like to know the answer to!

BTW I already work in sales, so something else would be nice.

I'm not sure why anyone would want to retrain AND take a pay cut to £35k.

Oh.

If you like sales and are prepared to sell your soul then try recruitment. Great rewards to be had but the hours are long and the work is stressful.

Technical side of accounting - ie specialising in Hyperion, Cogonos or such. Fairly easy £££ to be had with very little qualifications. Just need to understand numbers and computers essentially.

Is there a dickhead smiley on this forum?

I'm pretty sure there's a humourless bellend one if you're struggling....

(You did notice the 😉 smiley, right? Well there isn't one on this post. Mmkay?)

Is there a dickhead smiley on this forum?

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Teacher, loads of money and holidays - dead easy job to boot only have to work 9 -3.

Failing that if you have a good degree and an ability to talk try Accenture.

I'd stay well clear of science related stuff.

Shift work and overtime will bump you up as will other unsociable hours and danger so maybe get a job offshore.

DBA/Unix admins is a good shout. Check out some jobs boards and remember to take everything with a pinch of salt salary-wise.

Depends on where you live too - commuting to London you will easily earn more - but you'll also spend more.

I know a guy who claims he earns over 30k working in a fertiliser factory, apparently quite hazardous etc

lunge - Member
If you like sales and are prepared to sell your soul then try recruitment. Great rewards to be had but the hours are long and the work is stressful.

hasn't someone already said pimp? thats all recruiters are right?

and everyone suggesting IT must not like you as the bottom end doesn't pay that well and is suffering from mass over population for the jobs and if you are retraining you aren't just going to drop into a programming/dba/sys admin job.

Tis true, sales is the way for dimbo's who messed around in school to earn decent money. Forget 35k you can earn £235k in the right job/market if everything is going well. Not right now obviously!

But....you need to be good, tenacious, competitive and also honest!

Optometrist. My mate retrained as one and started on £40K (after one year experience earning about half that). Now works for Ultralase and earns considerably more.

Prolly dull as shit though.

I'm pretty sure there's a humourless bellend one if you're struggling....

(You did notice the smiley, right? Well there isn't one on this post. Mmkay?)

Good, always thought it was a bit off when people use them to fill the hole in the conviction of their posts.

Btw to op, bottom rung IT sucks ass, believe me.

guys who put road cones out on motorways apparently get paid 45k+.

dangerous though 😯

Btw to op, bottom rung IT sucks ass, believe me.

indeed it does. but if you're prepared to stick at it, should be achievable within about 5-10 yrs. less if you don't mind moving jobs frequently

Try oilcareers and search for expat buyer positions (procurement). Go somewhere bad enough and you should start on good money. Does the op have a diploma/degree or anything?

oil and gas industry in Aberdeen, a technical role such as drilling engineer.
sign on fees of thousands, retention bonuses, plus OTE of £100k in first couple of years and £200k after 5 years.

If you've got head for heights, try the overhead powerlines. Transmission pays about £60k on top and distribution about£40-45k. There's a chronic shortage of linesmen at the mo in this country. Try balfour beatty , amec or babcock.

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I took a commonplace skill (financial fannying about) from an industry that undervalues it (banking) and transferred it to an industry that thinks it's black magic (universities) and therefore overvalues it and pays 50% more for much the same work.

Ok thinking of retrainingand assuming I could do anything

As someone said earlier, what do you enjoy doing OR at least want to do? Seems all a bit "pin the £35k carrot on the job market donkey" if you're asking everyone to submit ideas from teaching to drilling engineer.

The way forward is to retrain in Fibre Optics which is currently the biggest growth industry and push for jobs that involve testing and commissioning of Fibre Optic networks. Awesome money if you make a good name for yourself.

I am a Fibre Optic Trainer in the RAF and one of only 11 people in the country to hold FIA Trainer status. Check out my new venture here and let us know if you fancy booking a course....

www.thefibreschool.com/preview

All the best,

Lee.

I heard that running a fibre optic school pays well... 😉

DrP

If you've got head for heights, try the overhead powerlines. Transmission pays about £60k on top and distribution about£40-45k. There's a chronic shortage of linesmen at the mo in this country. Try balfour beatty , amec or babcock.

The problem is that most people these days either can't be arsed to do proper [i]work[/i] as they think they are entitled to sit on their arses in an office all day.....

DrP,

As I said it is a venture and I won't be earning 35k this year. Have put my life savings into it from 15 yrs in a public service job to make it happen.

If the OP wants a career change that pays well then I can help him to get there,
However it will be a fair few years before I could wish to be earning the figures he is looking for.

A consequence of going it alone.

Try teaching, is so easy, hardly work, mostly sit around drinking coffee all day, now and then tell a kid to shut up then go home at 1 because you are tired and feeling stressed. Then take a week off self cert and do it all again next week.

It's so easy I just don't know why all the stw crew have not re trained already.

Anyone suggesting teaching as an easy route...

a) Doesn't really know what teachers earn (it would take 5-6 years to get to £35k without taking on a TLR).
b) Doesn't really understand what a teachers workload is. Especially if they teach a secondary school core subject up to A-level.

yeah but you do get a shed load of holidays, proper sick pay and pension so the benefits are A LOT better than most jobs but teachers seem to moan a lot more about it 😆
mind you, I couldn't and wouldn't want to deal with a classroom full of teenagers, so you have my respect.

Train driver? Money's about right, takes a couple of years to get there though.

According to the adverts on the back of buses in Aberdeen you could be earning that for driving the bus.

Northwind - Member

I took a commonplace skill (financial fannying about) from an industry that undervalues it (banking) and transferred it to an industry that thinks it's black magic (universities) and therefore overvalues it and pays 50% more for much the same work.

Interesting, Northwind.....when you say "transferred it to the university industry", do you kind if I ask what exacly you do for them? Are you an accountant?

Is taking time off for a degree an option?

Process/chemical engineering, then get a job in one of the oil and gas opperators (Shell, BP etc), graduate starting salalry is £35-40k.

Just need some aplitude for maths and science.

Open a bike shop... 😕

Air traffic control earn alright.

[b]Northwind[/b] - Member
I took a commonplace skill (financial fannying about) from an industry that undervalues it (banking) and transferred it to an industry that thinks it's black magic (universities) and therefore overvalues it and pays 50% more for much the same work.

The Professors I know (top of their respective games) make about £65-£75

jekkyl - if I was a teacher I wouldn't have the time to be typing this on here 😆 The OH is though. The holidays are good, but she spends about 5 weeks of those working anyway - either marking or preparing for the following term. She probably does around 3 hours at home per evening and about 5 hours each weekend on top of a full time table.

So the workload is pretty heavy during term time, with the pay off coming in holidays.

Prior to meeting my (English teacher) wife, I'd have claimed teaching was an easy game. My opinion has changed, drastically.

Anyone who thinks it's a case of turning up just before the pupils, reading some stuff out of books at them, and then heading home shortly after they leave, has a very incorrect understanding of what is involved.

jambalaya - Member

If Universities are paying 50% more than banks we have an even more serious budgetary problem in Education than we all thought.

The Professors I know (top of their respective games) make about £65-£75

I don't think you've understood my post at all 😕 For the work I'm doing, I get paid nearly twice as much. (entry salary £31K with better salary progression and better benefits) I'm not comparing higher paid roles.

Obviously not just education you can do this- friend of mine went from being a junior teacher to being a banking trainer, same skills were more valuable in one industry than in others.

I don't think sparky's have to do the 4 years at college any more that I did. I work on highway electrical systems and that sees me good for around £80k a year self employed, with about £25k in overheads and running costs, so £55k wages. The employed sparks I work with earn £35-40k

move to Aberdeen and work in O&G engineering on contract basis, you'll be wiping your bum with £35k.

isn't there as job going at the bbc that you don't need to be any good at and if you do it badly enough, you get a half mill handout in a less than 2 months?
also, if you'd prefer scotland, i believe there's a football related opportunity in glasgow requiring no more than a modicum of knowledge of well known catch phrases - long term improvement; game of 2 halfs, we dominated but the decisions went against us; you're a fat tube, traynor. would take longer but the payoff after a couple of years of not meeting any targets could be around the 3/4 mill mark

[i]If you've got head for heights, try the overhead powerlines. Transmission pays about £60k on top and distribution about£40-45k. There's a chronic shortage of linesmen at the mo in this country. Try balfour beatty , amec or babcock.[/i]

I think I'd quite like that. I'd imagine one's life insurance premiums may be quite high though.