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Watched the documentary last night on Netflix about his portrayal of Andy Kaufman.
It was hard watching in places and he came across as a complete bell end in a lot of it, but its worth sticking with as his methods and philosophy become clear at the end and I found myself excusing his behaviour because of it.
I then spent half an hour on youtube watching various recent interviews of his. I wont go into what he says here, you can google that for yourself. As a result I am left wondering if he has found something spiritual that most of us spend our whole lives searching for, or if he is just plain batshit crazy!
He has dealt with some pretty extreme situations in his life that most of us can only imagine how hard things must of been, being accused of causing his girlfriends suicide.
Crazy or Enlightened
Perhaps you should go first and define your terms.
Perhaps you should go first and define your terms.
[b]crazy [/b][/u]
adjective
informal
1
Mad, especially as manifested in wild or aggressive behaviour.
‘Stella went crazy and assaulted a visitor’
‘a crazy look’
[b]enlightened [/b][u]
adjective
1
Having or showing a rational, modern, and well-informed outlook.
‘the more enlightened employers offer better terms’
More example sentencesSynonyms
1.1 Spiritually aware.
‘we become enlightened in our relationship with God’
No idea, but he was funny in The Mask.
‘Stella went crazy and assaulted a visitor’
Always blame the beer.
I watched a little of that programme, before my wife got bored of it and started to complain.
IMHO He's doing a fairly decent Andy Kaufman impression, he was brilliant at that sort of thing, but a lot of Kaufman's persona was invented.
One person's crazy is another person's "normal"
I watched a little of that programme, before my wife got bored of it and started to complain.
IMHO He's doing a fairly decent Andy Kaufman impression, he was brilliant at that sort of thing, but a lot of Kaufman's persona was invented.
There are parts that make you wonder if all just an act.... like hes just trying to be anything other than what you want him to be - a bit like Kaufman
dictionary definitions
I meant what are [i]your[/i] definitions; how do you describe crazy and enlightened? How do you differentiate between the two states?
I watched a little of that programme, before my wife got bored of it and started to complain.
IMHO He's doing a fairly decent Andy Kaufman impression, he was brilliant at that sort of thing, but a lot of Kaufman's persona was invented.
Crazy,
Mentally unstable, unhinged, out of touch with reality.
Enlightened
Having a clear understanding of the world around you for what it REALLY is.
How delightfully binary.
Regardless of the answer to the OP's question, this clip will forever rank him as a genius.
I think both of them are interesting. Disturbed, self obsessed and delusional, but interesting none the less.
How delightfully binary.
Are you suggesting that you cannot be crazy without being at least a little enlightened and vice versa?
Or something else... what's your point exactly?
Does enlightenment make you crazy?
Is crazy just what people call those who are enlightened?
Does enlightenment make you crazy?
Certainly if some of the contributions on this forum are anything to go by.
I've done exactly the same recently OP.
He's certainly a unique and eclectic chap. I'd say he takes his art form to the extreme. Recent interview are certainly a bit sad. He seems to have lost his way a bit. He comes across as enlightened, but i'm not sure if that's in a positive way.
I've done exactly the same recently OP.
He's certainly a unique and eclectic chap. I'd say he takes his art form to the extreme. Recent interview are certainly a bit sad. He seems to have lost his way a bit. He comes across as enlightened, but i'm not sure if that's in a positive way.
That's kind of my point... If you watch this docu and some of his recent interviews its hard to tell whats going on with him. Does he genuinely believe what hes saying?, or is it all an act. There are so many parallels with his movie roles and references to them in his philosophy (if that's what you want to call it) that it makes you wonder about his mental state.
Agreed, I just see a lot of sadness. It's to be expected though, given what he's been through. Strikes me as someone who takes out his sadness/emotions in his acting.
This might be utter rubbish, but there's a 'body language' analysis of one of his interviews. There's another one that's better, but can't find it right now.
I hope he gets the help he needs!
Watched his interview with Norm and it was uncomfortable viewing, and not in a Kaufman-esque, expanding the boundaries of comedy, way. Just sounded a bit cabbaged.
Made Norm look like an avuncular chat show host, and I'm not sure Norm's all that well himself.
Watched the documentary last night on Netflix about his portrayal of Andy Kaufman.
By far his best performance, superb film. If you liked that then Lost In the Funhouse by Bill Zehme is worth a look.
By far his best performance, superb film. If you liked that then Lost In the Funhouse by Bill Zehme is worth a look.
I wasn't fussed about the movie at the time to be honest. I think Carrey`s best films were Truman Show, Eternal Sunshine and Cable Guy.
I'm a big fan of his, yeah the early stuff was manic and the Pet Detective stuff is dire.. but thats where he cut his teeth and developed characters all of his own.
Manically brilliant 99% of the time, huge fun to be around I guess when he's on form but as per normal I'm sure theres a darker side to him.. and the Enlightenment phase could just be that.
I admire him for being vocal about it though, why no.. it's not hurting anyone and if it makes people think before acting then I'm happy that he gets the stage of the media to promote his insights.
Is this a place for "best film"? I'm not too sure but Lemony Snickets has the right balance of manic and subtle that I admire in him, so thats it's best film I reckon.. but the Incredible Burt Wonderstone has a lot of Him in it.
Don't forget he's a Producer too so you get to see a lot of what he sees in films...
I think quite a few comedians find it very hard to portray anyone else but the stage/screen characters, and it becomes a defense mechanism for demonstrating that "everything is ok because I'm acting in exactly the way you expect me to..."
And are often quite as fragile as the rest of us underneath. It must be terribly tiring.
I think quite a few comedians find it very hard to portray anyone else but the stage/screen characters, and it becomes a defense mechanism for demonstrating that "everything is ok because I'm acting in exactly the way you expect me to..."
And are often quite as fragile as the rest of us underneath. It must be terribly tiring.
I think you are probably right, and its the basis of what he is "preaching". We all put on personas, whether that's at work or with our mates or whatever. We "act" the way people expect us to be out of fear of what might happen if we don't. This has resonated with me, as recently I am starting to NGAF what other people think and will just say/do whatever I like. Its quite liberating, and what Carrey is saying is that once you stop pretending or acting and realise that nothing happens as a result that its all meaningless. I can dig that.
Very good actor then - perhaps not so much since eternal sunshine of the spotless mind... I liked the documentary.
Is he crazy?
Perhaps - wikipedia - not always accurate - says he is an anti-vaxer nd seems to have dubious friends. So yes - I'd say he is creative but carries his certainty into areas where he knows little, and is potentially dangerous. Also beileves in visualisation... 🙁
IMHO He's doing a fairly decent Andy Kaufman impression
Andy Kaufman has been doing a pretty good Donald Trump impression since faking his death. The bit where he got himself elected president was hilarious but it feels like like he's milking it a bit now and running a bit short of material.
Jim Carrey has discovered Eckhart Tolle who I follow but has become all too evangelical about it all for my liking. I watched the film "Man In The Moon" recently and it was an amazing portrayal of Andy Kaufman by Carrey.
I found it uncomfortable viewing at times but compelling which by all accounts is what Kaufman was all about. I guess there is a thin line between comedy and bad taste and Kaufman certainly seemed to push that a little too far I think, so people either loved or hated him for it.
Carrey "thinks" he is enlightened, a sure sign that he is nowhere near it. You do have a series of realisations a long the way though. 😀