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Animal and plant taxonomy is always shown in Latin

Only if you are an elitist ****er!!


 
Posted : 31/12/2019 1:10 pm
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Only if you are an elitist ****!!

That’s a bit harsh. When scientist from different countries use Latin they can be sure they are talking about precisely the same thing, rather than a local word which might mean something different: think suspenders and pants in the US and UK.


 
Posted : 31/12/2019 1:18 pm
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Or scarlet pimpernel and Anagallis arvensis


 
Posted : 31/12/2019 1:23 pm
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AIUI Druids were the ruling class which is why they had to go. Romans didn’t need all their subjects to believe in their religion, AFAIK.

I believe there were spiritual/ temporal parallel power structures. For example the most well known leader Boudicca was never referred to as a druid


 
Posted : 31/12/2019 1:40 pm
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Boudicca was simply an incidental leader though after her husband was killed rather than part of the extant power structure - as I understand it anyway.

But anyway - I don't think many people know much about Druids - more's the pity.


 
Posted : 31/12/2019 1:47 pm
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Boudicca was simply an incidental leader though after her husband was killed rather than part of the extant power structure – as I understand it anyway.

"Boudicca was the wife of the Iceni King Prasutagus who ruled his lands as an independent ally of Rome "

https://www.ancient.eu/article/97/boudicca-queen-of-the-iceni-scourge-of-rome/

Hardly incidental, definitely part of the extant power structure

As for druids there are no written records apart from what the Romans and Greeks left us, everything else is made up or extrapolated, even the Roman and Greek texts have to be viewed with caution


 
Posted : 31/12/2019 2:42 pm
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As for druids there are no written records apart from what the Romans and Greeks left us, everything else is made up or extrapolated, even the Roman and Greek texts have to be viewed with caution

That's a pity because if there were other sources then there would be a clearer picture of the druids culture.

Similarly in one of the strongest SE Asia empire (Majapahit) most of the historical records actually come from China (Song Dynasty and Admiral Cheng Ho etc), Rome (Marco Polo) and Middle East (Iran). When crossed reference their descriptions were very similar in time and account. Luckily one of the old language (written like Arabic but Not Arabic - I need to research a bit more on this) is still around and the govts is trying to revive it as it is a language that is so capable of describing meanings (not sure what the actual term in English). For example, an item can be describe so precisely in at least 10 ways etc, but because the old language looks so much like Arabic there are many objections from other communities in fear of cultural "decimation".


 
Posted : 31/12/2019 3:18 pm
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Right but we don't know what the relationship between Druids and Kings might have been. It's possible that Druids were really in charge, compare with mediaeval European Kings and the Pope.


 
Posted : 31/12/2019 3:21 pm
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Right but we don’t know what the relationship between Druids and Kings might have been. It’s possible that Druids were really in charge, compare with mediaeval European Kings and the Pope.

I wouldn't say there were in charged but rather more like the advisor (perhaps at a later stage if they were still around) to the Kings/Queen/leaders etc. Remember druids were considered the most knowledgeable people in those days. Most cultures have their elder(s) or clan leader(s) (later become King etc) as the "ruling" elites. I was watching the coronation of Kings in SE Asia and I can still see those in charged of the ceremony were the local "druid" like people.


 
Posted : 31/12/2019 3:35 pm
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Possibly now a good timely reminder that documented history was written by the victorious. As we all know, there are many sides to a story.

Top thread btw, such a joy to not have the shouty ‘knee jerk objectors’.

As you were... 😁


 
Posted : 31/12/2019 4:28 pm
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Or scarlet pimpernel and Anagallis arvensis

QED 🙂


 
Posted : 31/12/2019 6:03 pm
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Possibly now a good timely reminder that documented history was written by the victorious. As we all know, there are many sides to a story.

Yes, hence it is also a good time to see history from their the other sides (those that were not that victorious) to understand the overall perspectives. The history of the SE Asian empire collapsed is rather "predictable" based on the historical records from those who traded or ventured there. They depicted arrogance and poor governance from the ruling class.


 
Posted : 31/12/2019 7:15 pm
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