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https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2016/oct/13/woman-charged-over-alleged-jeremy-vine-bike-confrontation
Shanique Syrena Pearson
'nuff said
Shanique Syrena Pearson'nuff said
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Was she in 5 Star with Delroy, Stedman and Doris and that?
22! bloody hell, she's had a hard paper round
I would guess the failure to licence the vehicle will be the one charge to stick in the end.
Shanique Syrena Pearson
'nuff said
Not 'nuff for me sorry, what is her name telling us?
She has Nigel Pearson's anger issues.
'Nuff said for me.
what is the offence of "Failing to licence" is it failure to have it registered on a V5? or just old fashioned no VED?
Lol, another idiot on the road.
Don't let your temper/anger out on other people.
I would guess no VED
Not 'nuff for me sorry, what is her name telling us?
That she had a bad start in life having parents that gave her a stupid made-up name.
But you knew that already.
That she had a bad start in life having parents that gave her a stupid made-up name.
The name I use is not the one I have on my birth certificate and was "made up" by my parents and is the one I have used for well over 50 years, so should I take them to task for my bad start in life?
what is her name telling us?
Her father was a relentlessly self-improving boulangerie owner from Belgium with low grade narcolepsy and a penchant for buggery. Her mother was a fifteen year old French prostitute named Chloe with webbed feet. Her father would womanize, he would drink. He would make outrageous claims like he invented the question mark. Sometimes he would accuse chestnuts of being lazy. The sort of general malaise that only the genius possess and the insane lament.
I think we can close the internet for the rest of the day. Beefheart has just won
although Beefheart's passage (ooh err) seems strangely familiar.
Plagiarism?
Dr Evil!
Who cares what her name, gender, race or her background is?
She and millions of drivers/cyclists have poor road manners. Regardless of their background.
Including the Duke of Edinburgh.
Don't blame others, sort your life out.
Plagiarism?
No, he's got some cream for that
IGMC
It's a shit name and defines her as a person. She was unlikely to be an astronaut with a name like that but most definitely a go by little shit.
Tyson Fury flower arranger?
my fellow STW'ers, ask not what your copy & paste can do for you, ask what you can do for your copy & paste
Dr J's a racist, too? First Cougar, now Dr J, it's like its suddenly singletrackkkworld in here
outing the 52%, one at a time
Duke of Edinburgh.
Duke of Edinburgh? I bet I can guess what his parents were like.
http://www.slate.com/articles/business/the_dismal_science/2005/04/a_roshanda_by_any_other_name.html
The data show that, on average, a person with a distinctively black name—whether it is a woman named Imani or a man named DeShawn—does have a worse life outcome than a woman named Molly or a man named Jake. But it isn't the fault of his or her name. If two black boys, Jake Williams and DeShawn Williams, are born in the same neighborhood and into the same familial and economic circumstances, they would likely have similar life outcomes. But the kind of parents who name their son Jake don't tend to live in the same neighborhoods or share economic circumstances with the kind of parents who name their son DeShawn. And that's why, on average, a boy named Jake will tend to earn more money and get more education than a boy named DeShawn. DeShawn's name is an indicator—but not a cause—of his life path.
...and what?
It's a shit name and defines her as a person. She was unlikely to be an astronaut with a name like that but most definitely a go by little shit.
Seriously? Care to explain why?
[quote=Stoner ]what is the offence of "Failing to licence" is it failure to have it registered on a V5? or just old fashioned no VED?
It's the latter.
I expect the other charges might well stick - she'd not have been taken to court for them if there wasn't a realistic chance of that, and TBH the footage provides decent evidence for them based on their definition in law.
Is Shanique a "black name"? It makes me think chav tbh, but then I know a woman called Crystal who is inexplicably not a sex worker, so we shouldn't judge.
Racism! Here too? My lord. Who'd a thunk it. You have to be so careful who you forum hang round with these days.
http://www.sentencingcouncil.org.uk/offences/
Careless driving (drive without due care and attention)
[i]Triable only summarily:
Maximum: Level 5 fine
Must endorse and may disqualify. If no disqualification, impose 3 – 9 points[/i]
No Excise Licence
[i]No excise licence L3 or five times annual duty, whichever is greater [/i]
Threatening behaviour
[i]Triable only summarily
Maximum: Level 5 fine and/or 6 months
Fear or threat of low level immediate unlawful violence such as push, shove or spit: Band B fine to medium level community order[/i]
Fine Band B: 75 – 125% of relevant weekly income
Fine Levels:
Level 1 £200
Level 2 £500
Level 3 £1,000
Level 4 £2,500
Level 5 Unlimited (for offences committed after 13 March 2015)*
Taking bets on sentencing then, I'm going with:
6 points for careless driving
£1,000 for unpaid VED fine
Conditional discharge on the threatening behaviour.
But you knew that already.
You overestimate my powers of assumption - it was a genuine question, I didn't know what, if anything, the name was supposed to signify.
Others have raised race, and suggested that it is "black" name? I didn't know that, so if you think my post was implying that you were racist (as some of the subsequent posts seem to suggest I may have been) you (and they) are wrong.
Having all seen the video when it first appeared, the one thing we knew already about her was that she was black!
Who cares what her name, gender, race or her background is?
Just so long as she isn't fat? [url= http://singletrackmag.com/forum/topic/fat-ism-how-many-of-you-are-be-honest ]Clump[/url]
Prejudice is narrow minded and nasty no matter what flavour it comes in.
but then I know a woman called Crystal who is inexplicably not a sex worker, so we shouldn't judge.
She's just lying to you....
[quote=footflaps ]but then I know a woman called Crystal who is inexplicably not a sex worker, so we shouldn't judge.
[s]S[/s]he's just lying to you....
FTFY
[i]But you knew that already.[/i]
You overestimate my powers of assumption - it was a genuine question, I didn't know what, if anything, the name was supposed to signify.Others have raised race, and suggested that it is "black" name? I didn't know that, so if you think my post was implying that you were racist (as some of the subsequent posts seem to suggest I may have been) you (and they) are wrong.
OK - my mistake. Apologies.
Having all seen the video when it first appeared, the one thing we knew already about her was that she was black!
In fact I didn't watch the video, so I didn't know her race.
Yes Shanique is a name which originated from Africa. With an attitude like that you can see why people with "black" names don't get as far.
let's try it with some different names:
Aoife McDonnell'nuff said
or
Magda Nowosielecka'nuff said
or maybe
Shifa Hussein'nuff said
Yep, looks pretty bad.
It is possible that the OP genuinely didn't know that someone with a name like Shanique Syrena in Britain is very likely to be black. But even then it's still not a great idea to start wellying generalisations like this around.
Stoner - Member
> http://www.slate.com/articles/business/the_dismal_science/2005/04/a_roshanda_by_any_other_name.htmlThe data show that, on average, a person with a distinctively black name—whether it is a woman named Imani or a man named DeShawn—does have a worse life outcome .........
Buy we're not talking about financial or educational outcomes.
We're talking about her decency as a human being, specifically, why she behaved like she did.
You seem to be implying that socio economic background has a bearing people's tendency to act like a dickhead.
Classy.
the citation was aimed at zippykona's Astronaut jibe.
But you carry on with [i]seeming[/i] to make assumptions.
Ah, ok, got you now.
Apologies, without the reference to zippy's post it reads very differently.
She was unlikely to be an astronaut with a name like that
a world population of 7.4 billion and only 49 active astronauts. Everybody's unlikely to be an astronaut - its 10,000 times more likely that you'll be struck by lightning.
I'd wager non of those 49 started their careers as shopkeepers 🙂
It's a shit name and defines her as a person. She was unlikely to be an astronaut with a name like that
So, what did you mean then?
the same as the cited paper concludes: "shit"* names manifestly [i]dont[/i] define anyone. They may indicate a correlation with other life characteristics, but they don't cause them.
* names that people can draw prejudices on:
Farquharson
Cholmondley Warner
DeShawn
Tyrone
Gideon
Dave
[s]Pete[/s]
etc etc
Thanks for the clarification.
You will be removed from the 'Compulsory Reeducation' list and placed on the 'Slightly Suspicious' one.
You seem to be implying that socio economic background has a bearing people's tendency to act like a dickhead.
If I had to guess it probably does. Millions of exceptions but a tough life tends to harden people and make them more aggressive.
Depends what you mean by a 'tough life'.
Economic depravity does not by itself make you more or less likely to be raised as a decent individual.
Violence and the various types of abuse are not confined to less well off households.
Pearson, who has a number of previous convictions including assaults and theft, may face prison as she was already subject to a suspended sentence.
Pearson was also found guilty of driving without reasonable consideration for other road users.
Is that an offence now? Never heard of that.
That seems a pretty wide definition. I guess that could include the likes of driving too slowly (as was referred to in one of the other recent car/speed threads)Driving without reasonable consideration
The offence of driving without reasonable consideration under section 3 of the RTA 1988 is committed only when other persons are inconvenienced by the manner of the defendants driving, see section 3ZA(4) RTA 1988.The maximum penalty is a level 5 fine. The court must also either endorse the drivers licence with between 3 and 9 penalty points (unless there are "special reasons" not to do so), or impose disqualification for a fixed period and/or until a driving test has been passed. The penalty is the same as for driving without due care and attention.
A driving without due consideration charge is more appropriate where the inconvenience is aimed at and suffered by other road users.
Note the essential difference between the two offences under section 3 of the RTA 1988 is that in cases of careless driving the prosecution need not show that any other person was inconvenienced. In cases of inconsiderate driving, there must be evidence that some other user of the road or public place was actually inconvenienced; Dilks v Bowman-Shaw [1981] RTR 4 DC
This offence is appropriate when the driving amounts to a clear act of incompetence, selfishness, impatience or aggressiveness in addition to some other inconvenience to road users. The following examples are typical of actions likely to be regarded as inconsiderate driving:
flashing of lights to force other drivers in front to give way;
misuse of any lane (including cycling lanes) to avoid queuing or gain some other advantage over other drivers;
unnecessarily remaining in an overtaking lane;
unnecessarily slow driving or braking without good cause;
driving with un-dipped headlights which dazzle oncoming drivers, cyclists or pedestrians;
driving through a puddle causing pedestrians to be splashed;
driving a bus in such a way as to alarm passengers.
Prosecutors must decide which version of the offence to charge as the section creates two separate offences and there is no alternative verdict provision in the magistrates/youth court: R v Surrey Justices, ex parte Witherick [1932] 1 K.B. 340.
I never knew that. Thanks for the info.
I like the Special Reasons in quotation marks in Scotroutes definition. Sounds like you could make up any old bollocks and get away with that charge.
"I's sorry for acting like a interstellar bell end your honour, but in my defence, I have an allergy to Gastropods, and there was a dead slug stuck to the mudguard of the cyclist. I ran him over by accident trying to rapidly overtake to avoid it".
She sounds like a thoroughly unpleasant individual!
Shame that's not enough to deny her a driving license.
Just to answer a few of things her lawyer tried to pull in court:
"Her lawyer, James O’Keeffe, said Vine’s involvement in the case had ensured the case was far more high profile than it should have been and said Pearson had faced racial abuse as a result."
Shouldn't have done it, then. Unintended consequences are not a defence. She should report the racial abuse to the police.
"O’Keeffe said during the trial Vine was “racially stereotyping” Pearson with the gun gesture claim."
Nope, she was doing that herself. She clearly made the gesture and clearly likes to be thought of as a bit of a gangsta, innit.
"Pearson was nine months into a suspended sentence for theft, assault causing actual bodily harm, and resisting arrest at the time of the altercation with Vine."
Not out of character, then.
"O’Keeffe said Pearson was a single mother and the incident was “out of character in the sense it was unplanned".
So, her usual MO is to plan her violence is it?
"Vine had made no attempt to pixelate her or her licence plate before posting the video"
Why should he have to?
At least the judge was sensible. I know her representative is bound to help his client, but surely he must at least feel he is just playing a game to pick up a fee here?
[i]Shame that's not enough to deny her a driving license. [/I]
I somehow don't think that the lack of one would stop her driving.
Stereotyping aside (and please let's all try to avoid making assumptions as to someone's character because of the ethnicity of their name), she sounds absolutely delightful given her past convictions.
The best possible outcome is for her to behave responsibly in future. We can't undo what's happened, here's hoping that her sentencing allows her sufficient time to contemplate her actions.
Just to answer a few of things her lawyer tried to pull in court:"Her lawyer, James O’Keeffe, said Vine’s involvement in the case had ensured the case was far more high profile than it should have been and said Pearson had faced racial abuse as a result."
Shouldn't have done it, then. Unintended consequences are not a defence. She should report the racial abuse to the police.
"O’Keeffe said during the trial Vine was “racially stereotyping” Pearson with the gun gesture claim."
Nope, she was doing that herself. She clearly made the gesture and clearly likes to be thought of as a bit of a gangsta, innit.
"Pearson was nine months into a suspended sentence for theft, assault causing actual bodily harm, and resisting arrest at the time of the altercation with Vine."
Not out of character, then.
"O’Keeffe said Pearson was a single mother and the incident was “out of character in the sense it was unplanned".
So, her usual MO is to plan her violence is it?
"Vine had made no attempt to pixelate her or her licence plate before posting the video"
Why should he have to?
At least the judge was sensible. I know her representative is bound to help his client, but surely he must at least feel he is just playing a game to pick up a fee here?
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I wonder if she instructed him to argue all of that.
Must be tough having to defend such a thoroughly unpleasant character in court.
tough, but lucrative .
nope, I imagine he came up with it as that is his job. He's not there to decide if she's guilty or not, he's there to do all he can to defend herI wonder if she instructed him to argue all of that.
afaik
nope, I imagine he came up with it as that is his job. He's not there to decide if she's guilty or not, he's there to do all he can to defend herafaik
As a general point, it would be better if courts were there to establish the truth, rather than be a playground for which lawyer can construct the best argument.
If it's true she tweeted this whilst in court (see Jeremy Vine's original twitter post) the option of a further non custodial sentence should be disgarded - she seems to have no respect for other road users or the court so the best place for her is in the clink.
"yea il be back straight back behind the wheel and let's up you don't ever get infrount of my car cah I wouldn't b stopping"
He's not there to decide if she's guilty or not, he's there to do all he can to defend her
True but, some might be surprised to hear, in a case where the defendant has admitted guilt to the lawyer then the lawyer cannot act in their defence.
The point I was trying to make is that it must take a special kind of person to trot out shite like that in defence of a nasty little thug who was obviously bang to rights. But I guess the fee helps with that. How he could say some of that stuff with a straight face is beyond me.
Given what she allegedly tweeted (ugh) I think it may well have been better if it wasn't a public figure with lots to lose who she confronted, but just a run of the mill person who may have just chinned her and ridden off.
[i]contemplate[/i] ! genuine 😆
thestabiliser - Member
Dr J's a racist, too? First Cougar, now Dr J, it's like its suddenly singletrackkkworld in here
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How's that work, then?
It's a shit name and defines her as a person.
It defines her parents as people with no taste, but that's all. It's her behaviour to others that defines her as a thoroughly unpleasant individual with no respect for others, and an over-inflated sense of entitlement big enough to have its own postcode.
that is interesting. Im guessing there must be a reason behind that but what is it?True but, some might be surprised to hear, in a case where the defendant has admitted guilt to the lawyer then the lawyer cannot act in their defence.
I tried to find a picture of the dear woman, but ended up on another report of the same story before leading me to one of Vine's so called [url= http://http://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/entry/jeremy-vine-cycling-video-near-miss-car-london_uk_57fded31e4b0a9568544f89e ]"near miss"[/url].
I wouldn't have batted an eyelid at that, in fact I'd have been grateful to not have that driver behind me. I keep seeing cars pull up to junctions and I wave them out (quiet roads btw) and they just sit there. Bloody whiney cyclists.
She was unlikely to be an astronaut with a name like that
Or 'Virgil'. Or 'Buzz'. Stupid names. They'll never amount to anything.
"Buzz" was a nickname, his actual name is Edwin.
Did you even read what JV had to say about that incident? His point isn't that the driver nearly hit him, but that he would have hit any cyclist in the cycle lane a little way in front, because he quite clearly pulled out without taking time to look properly. This is a typical example of bad driving which didn't cause an accident today because the driver was lucky, but if there had been a cyclist there you'd be wanting to throw the book at him. A typical example of the sort of driving which should be prosecuted because otherwise such drivers expect to carry on being lucky - until they're not.
Names do define you.
My mum wanted to call me Salvador. Thank God Dad intervened and I was christened Michael.....
I dread to think what would have happened to my alter-ego......
"Buzz" was a nickname, his actual name is Edwin.
cool guy, cool name.
True but, some might be surprised to hear, in a case where the defendant has admitted guilt to the lawyer then the lawyer cannot act in their defence.
that is interesting. Im guessing there must be a reason behind that but what is it?
Well a lawyer can't lie in court - that's perjury. They say they've been 'professionally embarrassed' and leave the case.
Edwin Lightyear?"Buzz" was a nickname, his actual name is Edwin.
Well a lawyer can't lie in court - that's perjury
Perjury is lying under oath. This is misconduct.
I thought a defendant could still test the prosecution case even if they'd admitted guilt to their lawyer (not the court). I could we'll get wrong.
Where's crankboy?
Did you even read what JV had to say about that incident?
Hell no, he's Jeremy Vine, that annoying bloke on the radio.
His point isn't that the driver nearly hit him, but that he would have hit any cyclist in the cycle lane a little way in front, because he quite clearly pulled out without taking time to look properly.
Looks to me it would have been possible to see any moving object through the columns from the drivers approach.
The test here will be the sentence she cops.
What a fuc***g ignorant bitch she is; complying with the law is not an option you stupid woman - it's compulsory.
I hope she gets max allowable sentence and she then gets same again for being so fugly.
I thought a defendant could still test the prosecution case even if they'd admitted guilt to their lawyer (not the court). I could we'll get wrong
That's right. Otherwise how would a "self defence" defence against a murder charge work? "The deceased was already dead when he attacked my client".
If that tweet from the driver is genuine then clearly being found guilty holds no worries for her. So what deterrent is there for people with that attitude?
[quote=sirromj ]Looks to me it would have been possible to see any moving object through the columns from the drivers approach.
Seriously? 😯 So there's no chance of the driver failing to spot somebody obscured by the columns or the car waiting at the junction, which makes it's fine to drive straight out without the customary pause to check?