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Jeremy Corbyn

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He's 74 years old now, think it's time to retire and just work on what he wants too, he'd be 80 years old by the end of either term going by the election timelines.


 
Posted : 27/07/2023 10:34 am
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Blimey, that was all well rehearsed. 

Maybe because it's all been discussed a million times.

Any one of those things would be enough to exclude the man from any sensible discussion in normal times. Jacob Rees Mogg gets (rightly) slated for presenting a show on GB News. Corbyn presents a phone in for a theocratic regime's TV channel and self-professed lefties don't see the problem!


 
Posted : 27/07/2023 11:27 am
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Corbyn's an independent now, so whatever his views that he shows on TV or whatever aren't really much of a concern.

The concern is that he's getting on a bit now and does he have another 5-6 years in him, the Mayor of London is a big job, MP, not so much i guess as an indy, but either way, the biggest risk is he splits the votes and lets the tories in, especially for the Mayor role.


 
Posted : 27/07/2023 11:32 am
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Excluding people from discussions? Not exactly socratic is it?


 
Posted : 27/07/2023 11:33 am
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Unfortunately if he did become mayor, I could foresee the PLP working against him with such ferocity that the people of London would be collateral damage in their efforts to undermine him.

Therefore the need to placate them and stop them from throwing their toys from their prams?

Being held to political ransom by right-wingers who otherwise promise mayhem might be an effective strategy for them but I am not convinced that it should be encouraged.


 
Posted : 27/07/2023 11:36 am
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Therefore the need to placate them and stop them from throwing their toys from their prams?

I guess it worked for the tories against Khan with all the requirements they placed on TFL.
So new new labour might as well continue it.


 
Posted : 27/07/2023 11:40 am
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Corbyn presents a phone in for a theocratic regime’s TV channel and self-professed lefties don’t see the problem!

'cos having alternative viewpoints on different platforms is such a bad thing.

Whereas I have a right-winger running our democratic socialist party. Nothing to see here.

Starmer also seems to enjoy the Murdoch factor - but he's got to get those Tory votes you know. That's because he hasn't got any other argument.


 
Posted : 27/07/2023 11:48 am
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Being held to political ransom by right-wingers who otherwise promise mayhem might be an effective strategy for them but I am not convinced that it should be encouraged.

As the labour right successfully did in previous elections when Corbyn was leder.  they would rather be in opposition than to accept anyone slightly left of centre.  this is the really weird one.  Corbyn proposed nothing outlandish or that would not be normal policies for social democratic parties Europe wide


 
Posted : 27/07/2023 3:16 pm
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I reckon it is probably fair to say that Labour's election manifestos under Corbyn were not that dissimilar to Tory election manifestos pre-Thatcher. Possibly a tad more right-wing.


 
Posted : 27/07/2023 3:26 pm
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I think that is pushing it a bit but certainly nothing out of the mainstream


 
Posted : 27/07/2023 3:27 pm
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I think that is pushing it a bit

Not really, off the top of my head pre-Thatcher Tory governments supported nationalisation of gas, electricity, water, telecommunications, transport, governments bailouts of the car industry, steel, and various others. Very low VAT and basic tax rate. Very high income tax on high earners, luxury tax on some nonessentials.

Corbyn fell well short of promising all those things in his election manifestos so imo that put him to the right of pre-Thatcher Tory governments.


 
Posted : 27/07/2023 4:02 pm
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Cummings’ advice to Corbyn’s team:

https://bsky.app/profile/patrickmaguire.bsky.social/post/3lh33hfgao22v

[ it’s a Times article, feel free to add an archive link for all to read ]


 
Posted : 01/02/2025 3:50 pm
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For clarity, the above link is to a Times article that reports Cummings offered to make Corbyn PM.


 
Posted : 01/02/2025 3:54 pm
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feel free to add an archive link

Here you go.

https://archive.is/GWuvz


 
Posted : 01/02/2025 3:57 pm
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An interesting story. Although the only thing which actually counts is the final paragraph......

Eventually, however, Corbyn did endorse a second referendum. And Cummings went to work for Johnson. He did for Boris what he might have done for Jeremy. The Tories were remade as a party of Brexit. Johnson read the lines that had been written for Corbyn — get Brexit done, Labour don’t respect democracy — and annihilated him. The unlikely beneficiary was the man responsible for the party’s position, the man Cummings derided as a “central casting London Remain beta-brain lawyer”: Keir Starmer.


 
Posted : 01/02/2025 4:26 pm
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They do share a sense of style


 
Posted : 01/02/2025 5:24 pm
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“The destruction of the Tories proceeds apace, comrade. Boris is their last gasp at ignoring reality. When that fails … kaboom.”

he sounds like our binners 😀


 
Posted : 01/02/2025 5:35 pm
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An interesting story. Although the only thing which actually counts is the final paragraph…

I hope for the sake of sales that was a really badly abbreviated chapter of the book. Seemed to be several jumps in narrative ending up with cummings being an all conquering hero which, outside of his pet journalists, doesnt seem supported in real life.


 
Posted : 01/02/2025 7:33 pm
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he sounds like our binners

Nah not enough insulting of the "left", "anyone down the pub" or anyone else not suitably ideologically pure.


 
Posted : 01/02/2025 7:35 pm
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