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MrSmith - Member
If you're over 40, buying anything more than a tenner or from any store other than ASDA, you've failed.
Buying clothes from Asda if you are over 40 means you've given up.
Damn right!
rascal - Member
UPDATE**UPDATE**UPDATE**UPDATESeems Uniqlo is too London-centric so that won't happen - I like to try before I buy.
And you'd be right. I'd looked at their site, but was wary about sizing, and as it happened I was going to London for the day.
I checked out the Uniqlo store, and tried a pair of their regular jeans on, 32x34, my usual size. I couldn't get the bloody things over my thighs, let alone my bum! I tried 34x34, which were perfect. I bought a couple of pairs of their selvedge Japan Denim from their site as a result, and they are spot-on, fit wise,
They had some more recently, which was a surprise, because I'd read that they'd stopped doing them.
I've got a couple of pairs from Route One, a skate shop in Bath, who do a range of own-brand 'basics', jeans, tees, hoodies, etc. their regular fit indigo and black denims are really comfy, they do two pairs for £49, although again it's worth trying them on, I had to go up a size with the indigo jeans.
http://www.routeone.co.uk/clothing/refine/ro_offer/2_for_49/
I like the idea of Gustin jeans but evidently the sizing is a bit tricky to nail so you need to do some research.
[url= https://www.weargustin.com ]https://www.weargustin.com[/url]
ROY and Ande Whall do some lovely stuff but not exactly cheap.
Unbranded denim worth a check as well.
I wear them seven days a week, for work and play, and rarely wash them😯
Hiut advise not washing their jeans for a minimum of 6months, they suggest first wash after a year, so what Mike does is about right..
If your jeans start to smell a bit, just wrap them in a plastic bag and pop them in the freezer over night. Kills all the bacteria which makes them smell. Only really worth doing if you care about how your denim looks, and not if you're wearing £10 jeans from Asda.
If your jeans start to smell a bit, just wrap them in a plastic bag and pop them in the freezer over night. Kills all the bacteria which makes them smell. Only really worth doing if you care about how your denim looks, and not if you're wearing £10 jeans from Asda.
It's only worth doing that if your jeans are raw and you're also aiming to get really high definition fades. I tend to wash mine every 3-4 months and I'm still getting some good fades.
I always seem to get catastrophic crotch blowout before 'epic fadez' can be achieved.
Teetosugars - Member[b]
I wear them seven days a week, for work and play, and rarely wash them[/b]
Hiut advise not washing their jeans for a minimum of 6months, they suggest first wash after a year, so what Mike does is about right..
justinbieber - MemberIf your jeans start to smell a bit, just wrap them in a plastic bag and pop them in the freezer over night. Kills all the bacteria which makes them smell. Only really worth doing if you care about how your denim looks
Right.
Buy a pair of white jeans, wear them for six months and then tell me you're still happy to stick your arse back in them.
And I do care how my denim looks.
I want it to look clean.
🙂
I always seem to get catastrophic crotch blowout
You should put some ointment on that
I went to TKMaxx after this thread. The wife spent £100, I spent £0.
The jeans are not designed for 'men' all skinny leg jobbies, I've got man like thighs and couldn't get 99% of them anywhere near me.
Despite the fact I've lost weight lately and am comfortable now in a 34" waist again.. the hard part is getting the legs... not the waist.
I threw £25 at a pair of used Armani jeans in 'comfort fit' last night on Ebay. Thoughts are that i'll be able to re-sell if they're not right.
i usually order a load from mandmdirect. usually plenty of option around the £25 mark. free delivery, try em all on, pick one or two pairs, send the rest back. i usually settle on duck and cover, they seem to suit me best in a 'im trying to look smart/casual but not poncey, nor trying to look younger than i am' kind of way 🙂
either that or browse TKMaxx.
Sadex - noticed they do silly-cheap jeans but never heard of them before. Ok to deal with? You wonder sometimes if some if these unknown web companies sell genuine items...I'm sure they're fine but good to know someone else here has used them.
Rogan Josh - Member
...Want to try some Edwin Selvedge though.
They are really nice - bought my first pair a few months ago. Seeing as you can't get them wet for 6 months - buy in spring and wear through the summer.
If anyone's interested i've got a pair of Howies mid blue jeans in 32R that are surplus to requirements.
Original ad here, bought on a punt, and while waist is OK there's no enough slack around the seat and hips to enable me to put any more than a £5 note in the back pocket. I had hoped to 5:2 down to fit but after a year and more cycling, the waist is a better fit but the thighs and glutes are tighter than ever.
http://singletrackmag.com/forum/topic/fs-howies-mens-organic-denim-jeans-32r-20-inc-postage
Same £20 posted as i bought them for, given they haven't left the house since I had them.
£17.50+vat http://www.dickiesstore.co.uk/dickies-workwear/workwear-trousers/dickies-work-trousers/WD1693
I would definitely recommend Nudie jeans. Although they are expensive I always manage to pick some up in the sales for £40 or £50 and they wear so well and last so long that if I had to I would pay full price for them.
Sadex - noticed they do silly-cheap jeans but never heard of them before. Ok to deal with? You wonder sometimes if some if these unknown web companies sell genuine items...I'm sure they're fine but good to know someone else here has used them.
yep, never had a problem. ive ordered a few hundred quids worth for me and my two teenage lads before. all comes in a big box, we keep what we like and return the rest. you pay 2 or 3 quid for a returns label that covers you up to a hundred quid i think, for getting lost in postage, but ive gambled and sent a couple of hundred pounds worth back on just that one return and its all been fine. money refunded no problem.
saves going into town for clothes, and you cant get much cheaper for designer stuff. ive tried the hut before too, but for some reason i always use mandmdirect. think it was somethings to do with less favourable returns policy with the hut.
burton.co.uk. About £25 or £30 for a pair, you can filter by fit/size/colour and collect plus means any that don't fit go back free. Not having to go near he shops on a weekend = priceless.
"http://www.dickiesstore.co.uk/dickies-workwear/workwear-trousers/dickies-work-trousers/WD1693"
those have a tesco jeans fit - i have a pair that were relegated to the garage clothes pile ASAP.
the dickies and carharrt work wear you get from sears in the states is streets ahead for similar money.
Buy a pair of white jeans, wear them for six months and then tell me you're still happy to stick your arse back in them.
[url= http://www.slate.com/blogs/business_insider/2014/05/30/levi_s_ceo_chip_bergh_tells_fortune_people_shouldn_t_wash_their_jeans_university.html ]The CEO of Levis also says you don't need to wash your jeans, and microbiologists say it's fine[/url].
ill send them a pair of jeans ive worn while working on the car or the like and see if they change their tune.
miketually - MemberThe CEO of Levis also says you don't need to wash your jeans, and microbiologists say it's fine.
They can say what they want.
I still don't want to wear a pair of jeans slick with six months worth of sweat.
😀
The jeans are not designed for 'men' all skinny leg jobbies, I've got man like thighs and couldn't get 99% of them anywhere near me.
Same here. My waist is only 32", and I've a healthy BMI, but even if I can get into jeans, they're so tight the pockets are useless. I'm not sure who they're designed for, but it's certainly not me
"TX Maxx have tons of Levis 514's in blue and black, they are labelled as skinny which put me off initially (they are deffo not a true hipster skinny fit) but I have bought 2 pairs in both colours now. They are kind of stretchy fabric and not a true pair of jeans but they are a brilliant pair of kegs, especially for £25."
This I used to buy diesel then was nosing around maxx on Saturday and saw the 514's Brought one pair in chocolate for a score and wore them out went back on Sunday and brought Blue , Olive and Black pair - Very comfortable great look and less restrictive on my manly legs !
Good grief - it's easy. You wear (and wash) them until they wear out then buy exactly the same again*
Next - and somewhere between £20 and £30 iirc.
*maybe an oldies approach and not applicable to the youth on here
Has anyway tried Superdry?
If you're over 40, trying to look under 30, like pointless detailing and know nothing whatsoever about the brand (they're not Japanese for starters), they're perfect. 🙂
Generally between £100 - £150. i dont mind paying a premium for good jeans because theye are the only items in my wardrobe that get serious hammer, so the price per wear usually represents good value. likewise trainers. I hate paying a lot for a shirt that only gets worn once a blue moon.
i only really bother with Levi's or Diesel for jeans, they have loads of styles and loads of fits so they can always provide a pair that feel right. i bought two identical pairs of Levis last time, maybe 18 months ago. still going strong.
they're not Japanese for starters
They're from 'Nam
(well, Cheltenham)
Try TKMaxx for Levis - Levis are a bit like seconds anyway as their sizing is variable and they need trying on. One girl in the Levis store said she likes to think of levis jeans as like snowflakes, each pair is slightly individual...
Superdry do some really nice chinos, oddly. I just can't face going into any of their stores; something about them are ridiculously uninviting!
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Rocha by John Rocha at Debenhams for me generally £40-50 in the sales. I have man sized thighs and like comfy jeans and these suit me fine.
They're from 'Nam(well, Cheltenham)
😆
Yeap. And originally designed by Hild, the man who started, and subsequently sold, Bench.
I remember meeting him selling Bench tees out the back of a VW Passat estate at the Backyard jam.
Ah. Them were the days...
Going back to jeans, I'd avoid Diesel if you have typical cyclist legs.
I tried a pair on several years back, apparently in my waist size, and couldn't get them past my thighs.
The target age range of Superdry is 15-25.
It's always nice to see a guy in premium denim. Modern cuts look far sexier than generic high street jeans. It's very difficult for men in supermarket/generic jeans to not look like they've been dressed by their mum.
This thread is fascinating. Usual c#ck waving stuff including having 'man sized' thighs so skinny jeans don't fit and that ASDA jeans make you a failure. Fantastic sweeping generalisations I love it. However Superdry is for jerks. haha sorry!
Fantastic sweeping generalisations
However Superdry is for jerks.
😀
Costco for cheap Levi's
Tkmaxx for a good random selection of quality
or go all out and get some decent quality ones - I have a pair of Howies Selvadge that are now about 8 years old and they just look awesome still - worth every excessive penny imho.
If looking in TK de la maximum a good jean brand that is usually heavily reduced is Scotch & Soda. They are usually last seasons but who really cares as they are well made. Also not tapered so you don't feel like you have soiled yourself.
Sweeping generalisations and dirty buggers 😉
If you're over 40, trying to look under 30, like pointless detailing and [b]know nothing whatsoever about the brand (they're not Japanese for starters),[/b] they're perfect.
Nobody said they were, but I still don't see why it is important that I know all about a brand so that I can buy
some jeans ?
Nobody said they were, but I still don't see why it is important that I know all about a brand so that I can buy some jeans ?
It is certainly not essential - but there are some good reasons around environmental ethics, company choice, people choice.
Companies such as Hiut certainly make a good case to throw money some at - product aside.
http://hiutdenim.co.uk/blogs/story/5156362-our-town-is-going-to-make-jeans-again
Yet Diesel - from their site - I cannot find a single reason why they should have my money.
http://www.diesel.com/
When one reaches a certain age one should foreswear jeans in favour of a mature sartorial elegance.
Smiffy, innit.
When one reaches a certain age one should foreswear jeans in favour of a mature sartorial elegance.
Those elasticated waistband trousers you see in the back of Sunday supplements? 😀
OMG my wife just got maternity jeans - they look like the comfiest things ever.
It is certainly not essential - but there are some good reasons around environmental ethics, company choice, people choice.Companies such as Hiut certainly make a good case to throw money some at - product aside.
http://hiutdenim.co.uk/blogs/story/5156362-our-town-is-going-to-make-jeans-again /p>Yet Diesel - from their site - I cannot find a single reason why they should have my money.
http://www.diesel.com/
What he said. If you're spending a reasonable amount of money, you may as well get something that benefits you and a small business, as opposed to a holding company, not to mention the environmental side of things: http://thestream.howies.co.uk/post/74072455960/organic-cotton-cotton-is-one-of-the-most-heavily
My little dig at Superdry is because I feel it's a misleading brand. Credit where it's due as it's exceptionally good at what it does, but it was set-up pure and simple to sell cheap-ish clothes at a premium, and trades on misleading messages/branding. For the price charged for a product I see no apparent product benefit to anyone other than the shareholders (unless of course Superdry is designed around your body shape; in which case go you!) and the need to cover some very expensive retail overheads. That irks me, but I'd understand why it doesn't irk others.
OMG my wife just got maternity jeans - they look like the comfiest things ever.
My other half still wears hers. Our daughter is over a year old now. 🙂
Reformed Jeans snob here. Used to only ever buy Diesel or similar designer types. £100-£150 ish per pair.
I too used to justify the fact that they were better quality and lasted longer.
Have a bit less spare cash now and mostly buy Gap jeans nowadays, preferably in the sale.
Much cheaper, just as good (if not better fit, due to multiple options) and guess what - they last just as long.
If you fancy the spendy designer ones, because you want them and can afford them, then that's fine. Just don't kid yourself they'll last longer 😉
If you fancy the spendy designer ones, because you want them and can afford them, then that's fine. Just don't kid yourself they'll last longer
I am definitely not suggesting typical designer - rather heritage - and yes they will last longer.
On the flip side, I agree - diesel (or even stock levi) vs gap - i would expect little difference in wear. But something well made (triple stitched inseams, double lined pockets etc etc) will, for sure.
I have never bought jeans more than £35 or £40 including Diesel, French CUK, Duck & Cover etc, as I bought them during sales. The last two/three jeans (think they are a bit skinny and apparently fashionable - not into fashion me just want strong pockets) I bought only cost me £17.50 each from Debenhams so there you go no need to spend crazy money.
However, if you wish to spend £100 or more per jeans so be it the more the merrier so long as I buy them during sales. 
My little dig at Superdry is because I feel it's a misleading brand
A brand created from nothing with no other selling point apart from a meaningless mixed language logo, the clothes themselves are not better made, well designed or longer lasting than other brands also they have a logo on them (usually on the shoulder) they are just a cheaper version of stone island with that idiotic button on label on the sleeve.
I guess middle aged men feel comfortable wearing what other middle aged men wear and being able to see the logo on people's shoulders while you queue for beer/petrol/fish and chips means you feel part of a familiar tribe of mediocrity and your life isn't mapped out by what clothes a huge bland supermarket will sell you to help you on your journey from cradle to grave.
Reformed Jeans snob here. Used to only ever buy Diesel or similar designer types. £100-£150 ish per pair.
A jeans snob wouldn't be seen dead in Diesel or 'designer' jeans.
Okinawa/cone mills selvage, chain stitching, 12oz+ or stick with Asda
I think there is a vast difference in quality between big brand jeans such as Replay, Diesel etc and lesser known brands who think more about the jeans than the marketing campaigns such as Howies, Nudie etc.
They are all roughly around the same price (ish) but in my experience there is a big difference in the end product.
ive had some Nudies, they were great at first but didnt stand the test of time as well as my levis or diesels have. infact one wash ruined them iirc.
Okinawa/cone mills selvage, chain stitching, 12oz+
I don't know what that means 😳
So it's cheapo for me as I'm not with it enough to know better 🙂
"ive had some Nudies, they were great at first but didnt stand the test of time as well as my levis or diesels have. infact one wash ruined them iirc."
If that was the case - I know for a fact the nudie shop in london would repair or replace them for free, regardless where you bought them, even if the first was was after 6 months.
http://www.nudiejeans.com/stores/nudie-jeans-repair-shop-soho/
blimey, thats useful! unfortunately those ones went in the charity bin ages ago but i might check out a new pair!
All you jeans snobs watchout.... Or Jamie hibbert will be along shortly to subscribe you to his beardy Axe magazine 😉
Do you mean Jocks and Nerds magazine?
It's a great read 😉
Sports Direct. £7 - £20. Some of it is a bit special looking but a lot of the same stuff as TK max.
They last a year or two of constant use and fit me despite preposterously large thighs. What more do you want.
ive had some Nudies, they were great at first but didnt stand the test of time as well as my levis or diesels have. infact one wash ruined them iirc.
I have about 6 pairs. No probs for me, and I've had some for a few years now. Whilst I don't think that the denim is excellent quality at full RRP compared with the levi vintage or lee 101, it's far better than the standard levi, diesel, etc and great value at £50-70 you can get them for online.
Going back to jeans, I'd avoid Diesel if you have typical cyclist legs.
I tried a pair on several years back, apparently in my waist size, and couldn't get them past my thighs.
Hmmm not my experience, even with my considerable derrière and large thighs, Diesels were the only jeans I could get in. I think they were a krooley cut, so larger round the thighs and waist but tapered towards the bottom.
Just recently bought some 36" skinnies from next! Need to bulk up!
I tried on about 15 pairs of jeans in various shops today, sadly I came out spending nothing more than £1.60 on a Gingerbread man for my son.
I just can't find any 34" waists that fit my thighs ! Once I get the up, the waist is fine.. but... the legs.. are just a no.
howsyourdad1 - Member
This thread is fascinating. Usual c#ck waving stuff including having 'man sized' thighs so skinny jeans don't fit and that ASDA jeans make you a failure. Fantastic sweeping generalisations I love it. However Superdry is for jerks. haha sorry!
Wearing skinny jeans when you're a middle-aged bloke means you just look a bit of a cock. And the regular fit Uniqlo 32" (which is a loose-ish, comfy fit with all my Howies, Oakley's and mil-surplus combats) would not go higher than the top of my thighs.
34 did, but Uniqlo are actually Japanese, not faux Japanese, like Superdry.
ohnohesback - Member
When one reaches a certain age one should foreswear jeans in favour of a mature sartorial elegance.
I'll bear that in mind. Currently I'm slouched on the sofa wearing a Howies Marino tank, a Route One hoodie, and a pair of Danish army M-84 combats.
I'll be dressing up when I go to the pub tomorrow, Route One Indigo denims, band tour tee of some sort, hoodie and US Army CWU45/P Nomex flying jacket.
That's about as far as I'm tarting myself up, I'm too old to much give a shit. 😉
UNIQLO !!! find them after various carharrts,edwins,scotch and soda etc to be a much better fit and pricewise you cant go wrong
I'll be dressing up when I go to the pub tomorrow, Route One Indigo denims, band tour tee of some sort, hoodie and US Army CWU45/P Nomex flying jacket
Is it a fancy dress party?
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banjax34 - MemberUNIQLO !!! find them after various carharrts,edwins,scotch and soda etc to be a much better fit and pricewise you cant go wrong
Those look like good value but are they tough?
Bought my first ever pair of 36" troos the other day. Usually I'm 34" but these were the first ones I tried that didn't make my legs look like wrapped carrots. It'll be a good day when skinny/tapered/whatever goes out of fashion.
Worth bearing in mind that both Hiut and Nudie offer free repairs for life.
Those look like good value but are they tough?
As tough as anything costing double the price, which is £35 for selvedge, IIRC. I was looking at their jeans a day or so ago, and they have a good range of sizes at the mo'.
These are the ones I have, and I love them. Particularly because there is no adornment; no extra zips, pockets, buttons, stitching, printed logos...
http://www.uniqlo.com/uk/store/goods/130084
As plain a pair of denim jeans as you can get, and all the better for it.
Fancy dress, MrSmith? My jacket has no spurious patches stuck all over it. I could have gone into somewhere like SuperDry and bough a camo jacket that's a knock-off of a real one, and paid twice, three times the price, or paid eighty quid for a civilian nylon copy of a flying jacket, in black, and look like a security bod outside a nightclub, or the same for a genuine flameproof jacket worn by an aircrew member at a U.S. Army test establishment, with no inappropriate patches stuck to it.
Combats are cheap, comfy, great for work or country walks cos the camo shows very little by way of mucky marks.
£17 for three-quarter lined Danish ex-military combats against twice that for plain black cargo trousers of something like equivalent quality; no contest.
People have been wearing military-styled gear for years, you see stupidly expensive camo-patterned stuff everywhere, I choose to buy second-hand real stuff for less money for casual wear; I can't afford posey stuff with big logos printed on the shoulder, and wouldn't wear most of it if I could.
I do have a NF Nuptse, bought with a lottery win; wouldn't have it otherwise, my ultralight down jacket and gilet are Uniqlo...
Actually, my CWU jacket has one patch on the shoulder, this one:
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Took me several hours searching Google to find the unit. Pretty obscure one from 1991, nice to have some history to it.
US Army TEXCOM*, as it turns out.
*Test and Experimental Command
Countzero, a quick ebay search says those jackets are £300.00. I can't afford that!!
You do know that fashion is all about what you're clothes say about you to others without talking
you can talk about it all you like on here, but people are probably assuming you do it as a fashion statement...
If you want a good quality, comfortable and cheap pair of jeans then I'd recommend finding your nearest GAP Outlet store. They don't have the same narrow/skinny/shitey things like in the normal store they just have a nice selection of slim/bootcut/loose fit jeans and can usually be picked up for around £20. Mine tend to last the best part of a year and that's wearing them most days and they are so comfy (currently sitting at work in a pair of premium loose fit) and they do absolutely loads of sizes.
I usually struggle for jeans as I hate tight fitting ones and my thighs are pretty big, the GAP Outlet loose fit are the only pair of jeans I have managed to find for years that actually [i]are[/i] a loose fit and are really soft whereas I find Next jeans like cardboard everytime you put them on and nowhere near a loose fit!
Also if you sign up to their emails they have sales and offers pretty much every month giving you more money off, snap up some bargains!
Jeans? Try [url= http://www.bravestarselvage.com/collections/selvage-denim-jean-fit-selector/products/true-straight ]these[/url]
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countzero - can you list up some surplus stores - struggling to find anything with quality wares
after outdoor jackets and troosers!
Gap are really bad for vanity sizing as well, so if you want to feel like you still fit into size 'whatever you wore in your 20s' , head to Gap 😆
Black slim (not skinny) stretch jeans from matalan £18. Job done.
last pair i bought were a pair of Diesel jeans for £20 in the sale. theyre an ok pair but they're a bit low slung so i have to do the belt up a bit tighter to stop them sliding down.
previous pair was a pair from next...i paid £50 for them and they are an awesome pair but i've put a hole in one of the knees so they'll be going in the bin soon.
more recently i've started to buy chinos as they are seem to feel more comfortable
i used to pay silly money on jeans in the past...average price would be about £75 with the most i've paid being £225!!
One brand, Levis. One style, 501, button fly. One size 34 x 34.
Same same for 50 years or so. Don't care what people think of a guy my age wearing jeans. I'm a workin' man and I don't own a necktie.
I buy them online for about 25% less than in the store.