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So boring thread I know and we can probably get done in 20 mins.
I have rugby legs and am of medium to large build. 36" waist 31 inch leg.
Skinny jeans are out of the question.
Please recommend decent brands with good quality denim that look good on a nearly 40 year old.
Marks and Spencers. - seriously.
The ones that are anti-stain. Lighter material than proper denim, which I prefer. Pretty smart, havent worn out, relatively cheap.
I always buy Howies jeans.
Howies size up quite well.
Hiut Denim are my favorites. Obviously more expensive than George by Asda.
You would want the regular fit
http://hiutdenim.co.uk/products/organic-denim-worka-2014
Edwin.
think the Nashville ED55 is the most cyclist friendly cut, has a higher rise than hipster skinny jeans the dimensions are listed on the edwin site. has to be the raw selvage version.
howies. end of thread.
Another vote for Howies, they're expensive (to me anyway) but they last a long time.
I've got big legs too, I can only get into thier loose fit jeans, Drover I think they're called.
Budget? Jeans are a very emotive topic on this forum, a split between the 'jeans are jeans' budget buyer and the more discerning buyer.
You mention 'decent' so I'll assume you will spend a bit, loads of fits to choose from. I've got a couple of pairs of Nudie's which are nice and not too expensive. Otherwise as mentioned Edwin, Huit or one of the more mainstream bands like Levis, Lee etc will have something decent to suit.
Another for Howies,also 501's and Diesel fit my unique body shape(well in my eyes they do)
denim that look good on a nearly 40 year old.
Nope. Not a chance.
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Jeans are the dullest of the dull in the world of trousering. A sort of uniform for the unimaginative herd, best teamed with something from Superdry with a pointless faux-Japanese logo that actually reads "I blow goats!".
Disclaimer - I am currently wearing Mountain Khaki cords, and am also a recent convert to Kuhl trews.
Then again, there are moments when one asks oneself, 'Do trousers matter?' Thankfully, the mood will pass.
the more discerning buyer.
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Edwin relaxed fit are good for those with large thighs. They are tapered so not too baggy at the bottom.
Fat face do some that fit my 36" waist and 32" leg and that I can get my arse and thighs in and that you don't have to be showing your bloody underwear like da youff!
I bought mine online in their sale £25 a pair!
I bought mine online in their sale £25 a pair!
Clearly NOT a [i]discerning[/i] buyer.
I like Hiut selvedge denim but found some by Universal Works last weekend, Portuguese selvedge denim, made in the UK. Great price and a great fit on me anyway.
Volcom.
I find skate jeans to be cut well, flexible and hard wearing over the high street bands. And decent stuff can be had for less than £40 from Route One, Rollersnakes et al. But then again, I used to skate more than ride so a slim fit feels great to me whilst a regular feels positively baggy 😀
Ande Whall, Tellerson, ROY, Momotaro, Studio D’artisan. Anything else is a bit plebeian.
Anything else is a bit plebeian.
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(Unless you're being serious...)
Marco polo,linea or Boss for me - u gotta feel good an a pair of jeans right...
Nothing looks more tragic than a bloke in his 40s trying too hard with his denim - The worst offense being designer indigo with a dress shirt - The best advice my Dad ever gave me is stay away from denim after a certain age .. A cruel paradox I know but the better the jeans the more conspicuously trendy they'll appear on oldies ..
Hilfiger jeans in house of fraser are half price and fit normal legs well.
Nothing looks more tragic than a bloke in his 40s trying too hard with his denim - The worst offense being designer indigo with a dress shirt - The best advice my Dad ever gave me is stay away from denim after a certain age .. A cruel paradox I know but the better the jeans the more conspicuously trendy they'll appear on oldies ..
Please see my previous post! (Unless you're not being serious!)
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I have to disagree on the denim on over 40's good well cut selvage denim is way better than a pair of crappy beige chino's from Gap. Agreed if you are still using hair gel, visit a tanning salon and wear pre-aged denim with superfluous pockets and stitching then that's very tragic.
Re the comment up there about the back row of a cinema? That made me chuckle as I had a cuddle in an art house cinema watching a 'european' film on a second date last night 😉 I'm over 40 and was wearing a crisp pair of Albam straight cut.
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That greyfoxblog says nowt. I'm over 60 and still wear 501s. I'm skinny though.
Can you still get Tesco Tearaways?
I'm over 40
By more than ten years surely?
Wear what you want.
Flashy's hurricane of social insecurity is enough to demonstrate that, surely?
MrSmith - Member
I have to disagree on the denim on over 40's good well cut selvage denim is way better than a pair of crappy beige chino's from Gap. Agreed if you are still using hair gel, visit a tanning salon and wear pre-aged denim with superfluous pockets and stitching then that's very tragic.
Exactly. The way some of you go on you should be right at home on the 'comfortable shoes' thread.
wtf is "selvedge"? Does it involve posh sinking ships?
By more than ten years surely?
No. 3
As already mentioned Edwin Ed55. If you have a look on brown bag clothing they sometimes have good deals on. I just got a pair of selvedge ones for £40.
CFH trying to look down wid da kidz.
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Thank **** for that nearly had an image posting problem that would have made me look as daft as them red troosers. 🙂
seriously... if you're not buying your jeans from a charity shop, then you're very much on the narcissistic metrosexual fashion victim end of the spectrum
I'd given up on jeans, and then I tried some Rohan jeans. Excellent fit and good quality.
34" waist, 32 leg, so +1 for Fat Face, also Boden (and I'm not from the SE).
Do not EVER go to Zara, mrsH took ambushed me there, insisted on trying some on, couldn't get any pair further than the knee, she couldn't stop laughing all day
It's all about Prana stretch denim jeans for the well endowed thigh. You can sometimes pick them up at Go Outdoors sometimes.
Loads of different jeans are made with a small percent of lycra so should stretch. Nudie and Uniqlo being two that offer examples.
Wow you can actually buy jeans from a brand called studio d'artisan? 😆
I got Levi's from TK Maxx recently. Never had any before but I like them. Not sure which model.
Have a look at Gustin, they specify the sizes of the jeans quite extensively and have some great choices in denim, you just need to wait occasionally for what you want/need.
Jeans are the dullest of the dull in the world of trousering. A sort of uniform for the unimaginative herd, best teamed with something from Superdry with a pointless faux-Japanese logo that actually reads "I blow goats!".
Well, I can certainly agree that any sort of clothing with over-large spurious logos' especially in some foreign language, are best avoided if you're older than twenty or so.
But
Jeans are the dullest of the dull in the world of trousering. A sort of uniform for the unimaginative
Disclaimer - I am currently wearing Mountain Khaki cords, and am also a recent convert to Kuhl trews
And you're wearing [i]beige[/i]?
Next you'll be telling us you wear those ghastly pink or baby-shit yellow things that blokes wear to make everyone think they're landed gentry.
Everyone else thinks they just look daft.
Currently wearing a pair of Howies, bought cheap in a sale, other jeans I wear are some Oakley ones, bought cheap in a sale, no fancy stitching on any of them, and I have some Route One jeans, totally unadorned with any kind of spurious logos or stitching, and several pairs of Uniqlo selvedge denims, also refreshingly free from any kind of unnecessary adornment, just quality, well-made, functional garments for regular casual wear.
Uniqlo selvidge denim.
At £35 a pair?
You can't go wrong..
Nico - Member
wtf is "selvedge"? Does it involve posh sinking ships?
😆
Selvedge is the natural edge to a bolt of cloth woven on a particular type of machine. The old machines could only produce cloth of a fixed width, the edge with a woven finish, characterised by having a neat white outer border, with coloured thread to finish it, was used for the outer leg seam, which showed when the jeans were turned up.
Mass production of jeans wasn't possible, so the old machines were sold off, mostly to Japan, and wider looms were introduced.
The popularity of heavier denim, using natural indigo dyes, has meant that there's a caché attached to having selvedge denim, it's more labour intensive, thus more expensive, and, looked after, lasts a hell of a lot longer.
14-16oz selvedge indigo-dyed denim will last for years.
It's like cardboard when new, mind, and will turn any light coloured object/material blue that it comes into contact with.
Like your legs, if you used to lie in the bath to shrink your new Levi 501's.
Been there, done that...
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While denim jeans have been a clothing staple for men since the 19th century, the jeans you’re probably wearing right now are a lot different from the denim jeans that your grandpa or even your dad wore.Before the 1950s, most denim jeans were crafted from raw and selvedge denim that was made in the United States. But in the subsequent decades, as denim went from workwear to an everyday style staple, the way jeans were produced changed dramatically. With the implementation of cost cutting technologies and the outsourcing of manufacturing jobs to developing countries, the quality of your average pair was greatly reduced. Changes in consumer expectations altered the denim landscape as well; guys wanted to pick up pre-washed, pre-faded, pre-broken-in, and even pre-“ripped” jeans that “looked” like they’d been worn for years.
But about a decade ago, the pendulum began to swing back again. Men started pushing back against the low-quality, cookie-cutter, pre-faded jean monopoly. They wanted a quality pair of denim jeans and to break them in naturally. They wanted to pull on the kind of American-made dungarees their grandpas wore.
To give us the scoop on raw and selvedge denim, we talked to Josey Orr (fast fact: Josey was named after the protagonist in The Outlaw Josey Wales), co-founder of Dyer and Jenkins, an L.A.-based company that’s producing raw and selvedge denim right here in the United States.
Note: This is not a sponsored post. I just hit up Josey for the inside dope on denim because he’s a cool young dude who makes awesome jeans, has an awesome beard, and knows his stuff.
To first understand raw and selvedge denim jeans, it helps to know what those terms even mean.
What is Raw Denim?
If you’re reading this in the email, click here to watch our video intro to raw and selvedge denim.
Most denim jeans you buy today have been pre-washed to soften up the fabric, reduce shrinkage, and prevent indigo dye from rubbing off. Raw denim (sometimes called “dry denim”) jeans are simply jeans made from denim that hasn’t gone through this pre-wash process.
Because the fabric hasn’t been pre-washed, raw denim jeans are pretty stiff when you put them on the first time. It takes a few weeks of regular wear to break-in and loosen up a pair. The indigo dye in the fabric can rub off as well. We’ll talk more about this when we go over the pros and cons of raw denim below.
Raw denim (all denim actually) comes in two types: sanforized or unsanforized. Sanforized denim has undergone a chemical treatment that prevents shrinkage after you wash your jeans. Most mass-produced jeans are sanforized, and many raw and selvedge denim jeans are too. Unsanforized denim hasn’t been treated with that shrink-preventing chemical, so when you do end up washing or soaking your jeans, they’ll shrink by 5%-10%.
What is Selvedge Denim?
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To understand what “selvedge” means, you need to understand a bit of history on fabric production.
Before the 1950s, most fabrics — including denim — were made on shuttle looms. Shuttle looms produce tightly woven strips (typically one yard wide) of heavy fabric. The edges on these strips of fabric come finished with tightly woven bands running down each side that prevent fraying, raveling, or curling. Because the edges come out of the loom finished, denim produced on shuttle looms are referred to as having a “self-edge,” hence the name “selvedge” denim.
During the 1950s, the demand for denim jeans increased dramatically. To reduce costs, denim companies began using denim created on projectile looms. Projectile looms can create wider swaths of fabric and much more fabric overall at a much cheaper price than shuttle looms. However, the edge of the denim that comes out of a projectile loom isn’t finished, leaving the denim susceptible to fraying and unraveling. Josey pointed out that contrary to what you may hear from denim-heads, denim produced on a projectile loom doesn’t necessarily equate to a poorer quality fabric. You can find plenty of quality jean brands from denim made on projectile looms.
Most jeans on the market today are made from non-selvedge denim. The pros of this have been the increased availability of affordable jeans; I recently needed a pair of jeans in a pinch while on a trip and was able to score a pair of Wrangler’s at Walmart for just $14. But consumers have been missing out on the tradition and small quality details of classic selvedge denim without even knowing it.
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Comparison between selvedge and non-selvedge jeans. Notice on the non-selvedge jeans that there isn’t a clean edge on the fabric near the seam.Thanks to the “heritage movement” in menswear, selvedge denim jeans have slowly been making a comeback during the past ten years or so. Several small, independent jeans companies have sprouted up (like Dyer and Jenkins) selling selvedge denim jeans. Even some of the Big Boys (Levis, Lee’s) in the jean industry have gotten back to their roots by selling special edition selvedge versions of their jeans.
The problem with this selvedge denim revival has been finding the selvedge fabric to make the jeans, because there are so few factories in the world using shuttle looms. For a while, Japan held a near monopoly on the production of selvedge denim because that’s where most of the remaining shuttle looms are; the Japanese love everything post-WWII Americana, and they’ve been sporting 1950s-inspired selvedge denim jeans for a long time now.
Japan remains the world’s top producer of high-end selvedge denim.
But there are a few companies in the U.S. producing denim on old shuttle looms as well. The most prominent selvedge denim mill is Cone Cotton Mill’s White Oak factory in North Carolina. White Oak sources the cotton for their denim from cotton grown in the U.S., so their denim is 100% grown and woven in the USA.
Don’t Confuse Selvedge with Raw
A common misconception is that all selvedge denim jeans are raw denim jeans and vice versa. Remember, selvedge refers to the edge on the denim and raw refers to a lack of pre-washing on the fabric.
While most selvedge jeans on the market are also made with raw denim, you can find jeans that are made from selvedge fabric but have been pre-washed, too. You can also find raw denim jeans that were made in a projectile loom, and thus don’t have a selvedge edge.
Make sure to keep this distinction in mind when you start shopping for selvedge or raw jeans.
The Pros and Cons of Selvedge and Raw Denim
The Cons
Upfront costs are typically very high. There are varying price levels for raw and selvedge denim, generally ranging from $50 to $300. The lower-priced selvedge and raw denim jeans (like the kinds you find at Gap) are usually manufactured in developing countries. However, there are a few brands that make their jeans in China and still charge $200+ for a pair.
If you want to buy a quality pair of jeans made in the U.S.A, from denim manufactured domestically, look to spend at least $90-$120.
Always keep in mind that higher prices don’t necessarily equate to higher quality. Higher priced selvedge and raw denim brands usually make their jeans from the same White Oak denim factory fabric as the more affordable brands. While the higher sticker price might reflect stylistic details that lower priced denim brands ignore, the high price of most designer denim jeans is often an attempt by brands to artificially create a high value in the mind of the consumer. Remember, price does not equal value!
They take a while to break in. Unlike most mass-market jeans that are oh-so-soft when you first put them on, when you initially don a pair of selvedge/raw denim jeans, they’re going to be super stiff. Depending on the weight of the fabric, it may feel like you’re wearing two plaster casts on your legs. Give it some time, wear them every day, and your jeans will soon start to soften up.
Sizing can be tricky. This is based on my personal experience. Most major jean brands use “vanity sizing” on their jeans. Which means while you may have a 34” waist, the sizing label on the pant will say 32” to make you feel better about yourself. Most selvedge jean brands don’t use vanity sizes (grandpa wouldn’t approve), so you can’t use the size of your Old Navy pants to gauge what size you should buy in selvedge and raw denim. You’ll need to actually measure yourself (we show you how below).
Also, I found that most selvedge/raw denim jeans aren’t designed for guys with thighs bigger than their heads, but instead for skinny hipster dudes. This was super frustrating for me as a man with mighty, magnificent quadriceps. I’d get a pair of selvedge jeans in the mail only to find that I couldn’t even fit my thighs through the leg holes. I’m actually going to do a write up in the next couple weeks on the best selvedge/raw denim jeans brands for guys with big thighs. Stay tuned for that. (Update: I ended up publishing this follow-up post on RawrDenim — check it out!)
They’re mostly available online. If you live in a big city, you can probably find a brick and mortar store that you can visit to try on a pair of selvedge and raw denim jeans. Because of the tricky sizing with selvedge denim, being able to physically try on a pair just makes things easier.
If you’re like me and live in a smaller city, your only option for buying raw and selvedge denim is online. This, of course, makes finding the best fitting pair of jeans a pain. I’d recommend buying two different sizes of the same jean so you can find the pair that fits just right, and send the other back; make sure the company offers free exchanges and returns.
Indigo can rub off. Because raw denim hasn’t been pre-washed, there’s a lot of indigo dye in the fabric that can easily rub off on whatever it comes into contact with, like seat cushions, car seats, and your shoes. Hey, you’ve always wanted to leave your mark, right?
After a few weeks of wear and a washing, the indigo bleeding stops. And even if you do experience an occasional indigo rub off, removing the stain isn’t all that difficult.
The Pros
They’re durable. Because of the selvedge edge and the often heavy weight of raw denim, selvedge and raw denim jeans can hold up for a long time, even with near daily wear. A quality pair of raw/selvedge jeans, properly taken care of, can last anywhere from a few years to a decade. And if they do rip or wear out, they can always be patched up and repaired and put back into service!
Better value. While raw and selvedge jeans can have a high upfront cost, because of their durability, the long-term cost-per-use can actually make raw and selvedge denim a value buy. Instead of replacing a pair of mass-produced globocorp jeans every year, your raw and selvedge jeans will likely last you for a long time.
They’re (usually) made in the USA. If you like to shop American-made, then raw and selvedge denim is for you. While Japan is still the leader in producing quality selvedge denim, the U.S. is quickly catching up.
While most raw and selvedge denim jeans available in the U.S. are made domestically, there are some brands that do make theirs in third-world country sweatshops, so always check the label.
Teetosugars - Member
Uniqlo selvidge denim.
At £35 a pair?
You can't go wrong..
Damn right.
Well, actually, you can; I'm really glad I tried a pair of their denims on during a trip up to That London, otherwise I'd have gone ahead and ordered a pair of 32x34" like I usually wear. Yikes! I couldn't get the damn things over my thighs, I had to go up to a 34" waist, and the ones I ordered on-line fitted absolutely perfectly, couldn't have been a better fit.
I have a couple of pairs of Uniqlo selvedge jeans and would recommend as they seem as well made as jeans that have cost a lot more. Have to say all Uniqlo stuff I have bought has all been top quality...the non iron work shirts are amazing value.
Definitely recommend going an inch or two up for uniqlo selvedge - have a pair hanging in the wardrobe waiting for me to spend spring/summer running. 😳 Great jeans for the money though.
In my defence these are the first jeans I have bought in about 15 years and they are to wean me out of wearing Adidas tracky bottoms as I felt they were no longer becoming of me turning 50 😆
Jeans are the dullest of the dull in the world of trousering. A sort of uniform for the unimaginative herd, best teamed with something from Superdry with a pointless faux-Japanese logo that actually reads "I blow goats!".
Yet it could be worse. Red trousers are an absolutely unforgivable sin. Only a complete * would even consider it. Even jeans wearers think people who wear red trous are *s.
Only a complete **** would even consider it.
Likewise beige or mustard cords.
And why sites like [url= http://lookatmy****ingredtrousers.blogspot.co.uk ]LAMFRT[/url] exist.