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What is it with folk who design clothes?

I have tried to buy a pair of jeans a few times now and am properly struggling to find a pair that fit. I seem to have the option of fitting at the waist and sprayed on at the thighs, or not fitting at the waist. It's not as if my thighs are big either given that I've been on a bike around 10 times at most this year.

Any suggestions?


 
Posted : 28/12/2012 4:20 pm
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Lets face it, it's time to start looking at the shelf marked " comfort fit" 😀


 
Posted : 28/12/2012 4:28 pm
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DD - my 99% of the time attire does comfort fit at its best. I spend my life in trackie bottoms due to my work and studies.

36 isnt old enough to start going for jeans with an elasticated waist is it?


 
Posted : 28/12/2012 4:33 pm
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Well, I'm 41 and still manage skinnies. 😉

Where are you shopping for them? G-star have never failed me. But tbh, they're not the cheapest. I do find that one pair of expensive decent jeans > a few pairs of cheaper ones. Howies comfort out of the question?


 
Posted : 28/12/2012 4:36 pm
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Check out Edwin & Nudie ranges, tapered loose fit as a starting point...


 
Posted : 28/12/2012 4:44 pm
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Well, I'm 41 and still manage skinnies. 😉

You're also probably the type of Jessie who uses moisturiser and Apple products, when you should be out practising the noble and ancient art of shin kicking. 😛


 
Posted : 28/12/2012 4:45 pm
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Tried a few shops. To be honest I dont want to spend a fortune on them as I'm planning on losing a fair bit of weight in the next few months now that I've got time for training and cycling again.


 
Posted : 28/12/2012 4:47 pm
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Why would anyone want to wear skinnies, they just make your feet look massive!


 
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You're also probably the type of Jessie who uses moisturiser and Apple products

Absolutely. How insightful.

gluptie, I dunno to be honest. I'm thinking Gap might be best compromise between price and choice of fit.


 
Posted : 28/12/2012 4:53 pm
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Howies comfort out of the question?

2nd'd. I always thought they were a bit pricey but then found out I was just out of touch 🙂

They do last well and get more and more comfy.


 
Posted : 28/12/2012 4:53 pm
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skinny jeans out of teenage years is dangerous territory, but at 41...


 
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Well, I'm 41 and still manage skinnies

If that said

Well, I'm 14 and still manage skinnies

It would make far more sense.

You are 41.... Time for elasticated waist beige corduroy trousers I'm afraid 🙂

(I am 40 by the way, but I wear shorts 11 months of the year 🙂 )


 
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I got a pair of [url= http://store-uk.hugoboss.com/Regular-Fit-jeans-%27Orange24-Barcelona%27/hbeu50228422,en_GB,pd.html&cgid=33000#!i%3D9%26color%3D433_Bright-Blue ]These[/url] from the outlet store in the sale.


 
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Well, I'm 41 and still manage skinnies.

2nd'd. my girl wears skinnies and she looks great in them, she's 40...oh dear, you're not a bloke are you?


 
Posted : 28/12/2012 5:19 pm
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I wear skinnies too @ 41. Its not about age, but how you pull it off


 
Posted : 28/12/2012 5:25 pm
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Edwins are your friend.


 
Posted : 28/12/2012 5:28 pm
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Look for nudie average joe or nudie sharp bengt, look on their website it tells you all about the cut. Perhaps try some on in a shop, they will be very stiff before the first wash. After you've done this go search for them on eBay, people buy them wear them a handful of times then I buy £90 jeans for £15 to £30!

If not have a look at the classic Levi 501.


 
Posted : 28/12/2012 5:33 pm
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but how you pull it off

Or in our case, how the wimminz like to pull them off. 🙂


 
Posted : 28/12/2012 5:45 pm
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*skip to the end*

Has anyone mentioned casual slacks yet?


 
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levi 501, end of!


 
Posted : 28/12/2012 5:51 pm
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I wear skinnies too @ 41. Its not about age, but how you pull it off

pulling off a 'bad look' isn't a good thing mate... 😉


 
Posted : 28/12/2012 6:23 pm
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I'll feel your pain with the big thighs small waist thing.

Try the Mantaray brand that Debenhams do. Next regular fit low waist also are just about ok and loads of choice. Also Full Circle seem to fit reasonably.


 
Posted : 28/12/2012 6:43 pm
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Give River Island a shot.


 
Posted : 28/12/2012 6:46 pm
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Do you wear Ugg boots with your skinnies? That's what most of the girls I see wearing them do...


 
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Any suggestions?

Find a brand that fits, they are out there, you just haven't found it yet.
understand what 'rise' means in a jean and stick with a brand. I prefer Edwin (ED55/Nashville), iron heart and Albam. selvage denim so a bit more money but worth paying for.
I'm 41 and skinny but feel skinny jeans are for fashion followers not those wishing to have 'style'. Fashion and style are not the same thing. 🙄

Avoid those jeans with superfluous pockets and fastenings that northereners seem to like especially if you are middle aged.
Avoid superdry, it's pseudo-brand tat.


 
Posted : 28/12/2012 6:48 pm
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No, I tend to wear either hi-top converse or brown thin-soled brogue type things.


 
Posted : 28/12/2012 6:50 pm
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Dad wears 501 and Gap. does that help?

DoubleD, pictures or it didn't happen.

always wanted to say that 😉


 
Posted : 28/12/2012 6:53 pm
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dd - is this you?!

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On a helpful note to the OP, I suffer from the same problem and find Burton (as in the high street brand not the snowboard one) has good sizing for their bootcut and relaxed cuts. If you catch them at the right time (like I managed to about 2 years ago) they do 2 pairs for £40 or something. Both pairs I got are still going strong!


 
Posted : 28/12/2012 6:56 pm
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I'm a rather thighy 36" waist and I've never failed to come out of Next without a half decent looking pair of jeans. Lowish waist, button fly and plenty options. Not too bad on price either.


 
Posted : 28/12/2012 7:03 pm
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I miss alpkit Jeaniu's. They are just so comfy.


 
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crankbreaker, now you're being hoddible to me 🙁

I wouldn't be seen dead in tartan.


 
Posted : 28/12/2012 7:25 pm
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Edwin or Diesel for me. I'm gay though so naturally much cooler than you. Try ASDA for some dad jeans maybe?


 
Posted : 28/12/2012 7:27 pm
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Hi tops here too dd, a couple of pairs of g-star, or some nice brown Firetrap leather boots. Diesel, Firetrap, or g star jeans (not all skinny) and some nice very skinny Voi chinos. Worn with a nice slim fit tee, check shirt, or close fitting jumper


 
Posted : 28/12/2012 7:58 pm
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Howies for me. They fit me well, are super comfy, last eons and their lined ones are particularly favoured at this time of year.


 
Posted : 28/12/2012 8:01 pm
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If you're really struggling how about these (and they're in the sale)
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Posted : 28/12/2012 8:26 pm
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It's the 32" waist and non twiglet legs, and cyclists arse I have that is the cause of me struggling to find a pair of jeans that fit. So no real need for maternity gear.


 
Posted : 28/12/2012 8:36 pm
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Sorry, just being a bit silly. HoF have a sale at the mo' so hillfiger ones are c£50, decent fit and mostly pretty regular.


 
Posted : 28/12/2012 8:42 pm
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41 and I still look great in skinnies, and I'm not even a manly manual labourer type like DD but a should-be-fat desk jockey.

OP: there are some jeans type clothing [url= http://www.careclothing.co.uk/Mens_Elasticated_Waist_Trousers_p/elasticated-waist-trousers.htm ]here[/url], maybe?


 
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I go for traditional shrink to fit Levi's. Hardish to get hold of but if you're ever in NYC, Dave's, on Avenue of the Americas, has just about every model plus bundles of Carharrt stuff for peanuts.

www.davesnewyork.com


 
Posted : 28/12/2012 9:41 pm
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Most proper jeans brands come in 3 or 4 different cuts. Try Replay or G Star.

Find a shop that has a good range spend a few minutes trying on a range. You should find something that fits.

Or if you're on a budget try Gap.


 
Posted : 28/12/2012 9:44 pm
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501s. Carhartt. Uniglo.


 
Posted : 28/12/2012 10:09 pm
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Uniglo

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Posted : 28/12/2012 10:16 pm
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DIESEL KURATT
KUYUCHI TIM
LEE COMFORT
WRANGLER STRAIGHT
HIUT SELVEDGE (EX HOWIES OWNER MADE IN WALES JEANS)

I KNOW MY JEANS ITS MY JOB 😉


 
Posted : 28/12/2012 10:17 pm
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HIUT SELVEDGE had to google them but at £230 for a pair of Jeans 😯 😯

lucky if I pay more than £30 for my Georgio (asda) jeans


 
Posted : 28/12/2012 10:34 pm
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lucky if I pay more than £30 for my Georgio (asda) jeans

Bruneep
Good jeans can last 10years plus (depending on your waistline) £30 jeans will not..


 
Posted : 28/12/2012 11:05 pm
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Seeing as alpkit stopped the jeanius Jeans, I have found the prana axiom Jean are really good.


 
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EX HOWIES OWNER

The one identified a while back as a complete asshat?


 
Posted : 28/12/2012 11:43 pm
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Hey frogleek, I any brands you can recommend I normally wear a nudie sharp bengt or grim tim.

Thanks


 
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Good jeans can last 10years plus (depending on your waistline) £30 jeans will not..

I always thought Armani, Paul Smith etc made good jeans and they do last but fashion changes hence is it not only 10yrs if you're happy looking a bit well old fashioned?

Appreciate I've probably just shown my jeans ignorance right there!


 
Posted : 29/12/2012 11:19 am
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they do last but fashion changes hence is it not only 10yrs if you're happy looking a bit well old fashioned?

Deep indigo mid rise straight cut/tapered jeans are less likely to date than those with logo's, funny pocket arrangements and the low crutch that looks like you shat yourself.


 
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I have never paid 230 quid for any item of clothing and certainly wouldnt for a pair of jeans just to line a designers pocketfor something worth about a tenth of that


 
Posted : 29/12/2012 11:29 am
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Gap for me with a 30" waist and reasonable thighs.

Sod paying £230 for jeans. Will they last 5 times longer than Gap etc? Probably, as I'd be afraid to wear them!


 
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Hi tops here too dd, a couple of pairs of g-star, or some nice brown Firetrap leather boots. Diesel, [b]Firetrap[/b], or g star jeans (not all skinny) and some nice very skinny Voi chinos. Worn with a nice slim fit tee, check shirt, or close fitting jumper

Now that Mike Ashley owns the Firetrap brand, you can pick up Firetrap jeans for about £15 in Sport Direct. Mike Ashley also owns the retailer USC, but at the moment the Firetrap prices haven't reduced there.


 
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You think you have a hard time, spare a thought for this guy, make no wonder he gets angry and rips out of them.

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Posted : 29/12/2012 12:03 pm
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I just go with 32" slim fit and they're fine. My legs are pretty chunky as well but these still seem to look ok. Straight leg feel too baggy.


 
Posted : 29/12/2012 12:06 pm
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501s. Carhartt. Uniglo.

None of these fit over my cyclist thighs. Cannot get jeans to fit at any price. Grrr.

We need a return to Loose Fit. Where are the Happy Mondays when you need them ? 15 years ago easy to get proper fitting jeans.


 
Posted : 29/12/2012 12:18 pm
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I'd put everything I own on Carhartt making a style that fit you.


 
Posted : 29/12/2012 12:26 pm
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Nope, can't get any Carhartts on. Legs generally stick a couple of inches below being fully up. Shame because I like the styles.


 
Posted : 29/12/2012 12:30 pm
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those of you who wear skinnies, you mean skinnies? or slim fit? skinnies are far too tight to anyone who cycles i'd of thought 😯


 
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You do get what you pay for to some extent.

I was looking for some cheap outdoor gear in one of those big awful chain store the other day and looked at the £20 firetrap jeans that they had. They were not worth £10. Really cheap thin material.

Last year I bought some Henry Lloyd jeans that were £85 and to be honest wished I had paid the extra tenner for the Diesel ones that I tried on. The Henry Lloyd jeans have a nice cut and feel but have faded a lot quicker than I would have liked but tbh have been what a lot this year as I have been working from home since June.

The Diesel jeans that I am wearing today are superb and worth the extra cash.


 
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I have never paid 230 quid for any item of clothing and certainly wouldnt for a pair of jeans just to line a designers pocketfor something worth about a tenth of that

Then pay a little less and line the pockets of these capitalist pigs with their sweatshops
[url= http://www.roydenim.com/ ]http://www.roydenim.com/[/url]
[url= http://andewhall.bigcartel.com/ ]http://andewhall.bigcartel.com/[/url]


 
Posted : 29/12/2012 2:24 pm
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I just walked into Debenhams and picked up a pair of Red Herring 30/30s which fit perfectly. £27.50. bargain. Dunno why anyone would want to wear skinnies, they look stupid. I remember them back around 1982-83 they looked cool then but there again I was about 13.


 
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those of you who wear skinnies, you mean skinnies? or slim fit? skinnies are far too tight to anyone who cycles i'd of thought 

Skinny fit rather than skin tight


 
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Deep indigo mid rise straight cut/tapered jeans are less likely to date than those with logo's, funny pocket arrangements and the low crutch that looks like you shat yourself.

That's why I favour Uniqlo selvedge Japan Denim. Good cut, regular fit, and quality denim. Not always easy getting the correct size, supplies are limited, and I have to go for a 34x34 instead of 32x34, but at £70, for a heavy selvedge, they're pretty cheap. The Uniqlo jeans have no logos or funny stitching, they're completely anonymous dark indigo denim.
http://shop.uniqlo.com/uk/goods/073554


 
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I wouldn't call uniqlo selvage 'heavy' it's pretty thin compared to the 15oz Edwin's or 13oz Albam's. Still better than most high st denim though.


 
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Dunno why anyone would want to wear skinnies, they look stupid. I remember them back around 1982-83 they looked cool then but there again I was about 13.

Didn't we call them drainpipes back in the 80's?


 
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Wiggle are doing Howies jeans at 25% off at the moment if anyone's interested...


 
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I'm pretty sure the selvedge Japan Denim Uniqlo jeans are 13oz; I have some cheaper ones they did, about £40-ish, which are thinner, but the more expensive pair I have are at least as heavy as a pair of 501's.


 
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hey, thanks for the Debenhams tip, keva.
Buy one get one half price at the moment - 2 pairs cost me £35! (and yes,they are "designer labels" if that makes any difference to the morons who pay stupid money to get the right label!)
£230! farking mugs.


 
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George at Asda? they do jeans for £4!!


 
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The £4 Asda ones are shocking, but then I'm sure that post was tongue in cheek!

However, the ones that have for £14 aren't bad at all. They seem a similar quality to your standard high street (Next, River Island, etc) ones and they come with an ok fabric belt.

The cut doesn't fit me though unfortunately. They are very straight up and down.


 
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Pray tell DezB - what are your "designer labels for £35"? Not doubting you, as I've bought Diesel jeans for less than that from TK Maxx, just curious as to what folk class as designer.

As for George @ Asda - go ahead if you want to look like your smelly old uncle - you know, the really embarrassing one.


 
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Well, they could've been any of these (that I remember) - Fred Perry, Duffer of St George, Jasper Conran, Ben Sherman, Levis, Red Herring, Jeff Banks ; they also had Wrangler and Lee rather cheaper and er, Maine. All were in the sale at about the same prices.
[i]what folk class as desinger[/i], may well be those £230 mugs makes that the bloke posted earlier, but they are for people who kid themselves they are getting something "better" for their (stupid) money.


 
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Could someone quantify what it so special about selvedge denim..?

From wearing jeans pretty much all the time when not at work I now wear them from time to time, having been vastly disappointed by some 501's I bought a year or two ago. Do have some Carhartt jeans that I am happy with.

Is selvedge a fashion thing?!


 
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Have a look at Levis 505's (vintage). Cone Mills selvedge and from the thighs down.. plenty roomy. Not £20.. and not £300 either.


 
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Selvedge denim: made on obsolescent looms with limited fabric width. That's all. Nothing special.


 
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Selvedge denim is generally heavier weight, and the looms can only cope with a certain width of cloth, they were disposed of when denim got really popular, and the manufacturers needed to get more material usage out of a given width of cloth, the old looms can do enough for one pair across the width, which is why it tends to be more expensive, and it's more labour intensive. Selvedge denim is more often dyed using natural indigo dye, whereas mass-produced denim uses chemical dye. Indigo denim has a very distinct odour, slightly musty, and it fades better as well.

Selvedge denim

Selvedge on a pair of jeans
Selvedge denim (alternative spelling: selvage denim) is a type of denim which forms a clean natural edge that does not unravel.[citation needed] It is commonly presented in the unwashed or raw state. Typically, the selvedge edges will be located along the out-seam of the trousers, making it visible when cuffs are worn.[citation needed]
The word "selvedge" comes from the phrase "self-edge", the natural edge of a roll of fabric.[citation needed] As applied to denim, it means that which is made on old-style shuttle looms. These looms weave fabric with one continuous cross thread (the weft) that is passed back and forth all the way down the length of the bolt. As the weft loops back into the edge of the denim it creates this “self-edge” or selvedge. Selvedge is desirable because the edge cannot fray like denim made on a projectile loom that has separate wefts, which leave an open edge that must be stitched.[citation needed] This advantage is only realized on one edge of the fabric, however, as the fabric has to be cut to shape and anywhere it is cut the self-edge is lost.
Shuttle looms weave a narrower piece of fabric, and thus a longer piece of fabric is required to make a pair of jeans (approximately 3 yards).[citation needed] To maximize yield, traditional jean makers use the fabric all the way to the selvedge edge.[citation needed] When the cuff is turned up, the two selvedge edges (where the denim is sewn together) can be seen. The selvedge edge is usually woven with a coloured stripe: green, white, brown, yellow, and (most commonly) red.[citation needed] Fabric mills used these colours to differentiate between fabrics.[citation needed] Contrary to popular belief, the stripe is not sewn in finishing the product, but woven into the fabric itself.[citation needed]
Most selvedge jeans today are dyed with synthetic indigo, but natural indigo dye is available in some denim labels.[citation needed] Though they are supposed to have the same chemical make-up, there are more impurities in the natural indigo dye.[citation needed] Loop dying machines feed a rope of cotton yarn through vats of indigo dye and then back out. The dye is allowed to oxidize before the next dip. Multiple dips create a dark indigo blue.[citation needed]
In response to increased demand for jeans in the 1950s, American denim manufacturers replaced the old shuttle style looms with modern projectile looms. The new looms produced fabric faster and wider (60 inches or wider).[citation needed] Synthetic dying techniques along with post-dye treatments were introduced to control shrink and twist.[citation needed]


 
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Well, decided to treat myself... was a wee bit tempted by the Hiut jeans, being made in Wales and all, but couldn't justify the £130. A few folk on this thread suggested Edwin so I took a look at them online and, lo and behold, they had some on sale.

Bearing in mind that I've given up on Levi jeans due to their inconsistency in sizing (two pairs of 501's in the same size, different colours but poles apart in fit) I was a bit unsure but went for my normal size in their ED-49 selvedge, €84 incl. delivery from Germany.

They arrived today and I'm wearing them now; the fit is perfect and they feel lovely... just that bit special. No doubt there's an element of self-justification but I am happy with what I paid for them.


 
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No washing them now hh 🙂


 
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