[Closed] James Macaroon in the Mariana Trench

I understood what he meant. Am I alone in that?

[i]Am I alone in that? [/i]

No.

He's been there, you haven't. How can you question it? For all we know there may be no water or pressure or gravity or darkness or life down there. It may be *proper* lunar, complete with aliens and that.

It may be *proper* lunar, complete with aliens and that.

🙂

Excellent!

If I'm to base my perceptions of what I've been led to believe the moon looks like then yes, I know what he's referring to, too...

Is the Mariana trench covered in a layer of dust and asteroid craters?

Is it 100,000 miles from earth travelling through a vacuum?

Is there a US flag & a little car that was left down there in 1969?

I'm just trying to compare it with what I know about a 'lunar' envt (i.e. the moon) to see if his comment makes any real sense whatsoever.

So the sea bed is made of cheese?

I'm just trying to compare it with what I know about a 'lunar' envt (i.e. the moon) to see if his comment makes any real sense whatsoever.

there is **** all there...

there is * all there...

There's * all in one of my kitchen cupboards, but by any stretch of the imagination I'd never describe it as 'lunar'

JC's description might hold a bit of weight if he'd been to an actual lunar place, but he hasn't, so even his own description is based on his own perception formed from a few photo's and some guys talking about it from 40 odd years ago.

I guess he was referring to the clangers and soup dragon. Obviously the Americans failed to find them in the 60s so they must have moved house to the bottom of the sea. Displacing that octopus and his shitty garden.

OP. You seem a tad overwrought.

[i]so even his own description is based on his own perception formed from a few photo's and some guys talking about it from 40 odd years ago. [/i]

Oh, the irony.

he's been to *one* of the two places. You've (presumably) been to *neither*. So he, by definition, has infinitely more knowledge of the subject than yow. 😉

Exactly.

I once asked someone what snake meat tastes like.

They said "a bit like alligator, you ever had alligator?"

I haven't.

So if I ask James Cameron "what's the Mariana trench like?"

He'll say "a bit like the Moon, you ever been to the moon?"

I haven't.

🙄

Dead helpful, both of them.

Lunar generally means barren dusty rocky landscape. I'm not sure how you've missed that.

Percy: You know, they do say that the Infanta's eyes are more beautiful than the famous Stone of Galveston.
Edmund: Mm! ... What?
Percy: The famous Stone of Galveston, My Lord.
Edmund: And what's that, exactly?
Percy: Well, it's a famous blue stone, and it comes ... from Galveston.
Edmund: I see. And what about it?
Percy: Well, My Lord, the Infanta's eyes are bluer than it, for a start.
Edmund: I see. And have you ever seen this stone?
Percy: (nods) No, not as such, My Lord, but I know a couple of people who have, and they say it's very very blue indeed.
Edmund: And have these people seen the Infanta's eyes?
Percy: No, I shouldn't think so, My Lord.
Edmund: And neither have you, presumably.
Percy: No, My Lord.
Edmund: So, what you're telling me, Percy, is that something you have never seen is slightly less blue than something else you have never seen.
Percy: (finally begins to grasp) Yes, My Lord.

the moon, for those that don't seem to know anything about it, never having seen it on telly or seen a picture of it

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the mariana trench, as it looks just now
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Ah,yes. Dust. At the bottom of the ocean. Well known for being dry and dusty.

Apparently there's also a heck of a lot of microorganism/microbe type life at the bottom of the Mariana trench. Which is not like the moon where no living anything has been found.

Maybe I'm just being awkward, but saying something soaking wet and full of life is like somewhere bone dry and (as far as we know) sterile is bonkers.

Parts of the Peak District are rocky and dusty. Is the Mariana trench anything like the Peak District? I can relate to that better than the moon.

In light of recent forum topics I think you could've been more imaginative with the thread title. Something along the lines of [i]James Cameron smoking Rocks?[/i] or some such outraged questioning...

[url= http://www.thedailymash.co.uk/news/arts-%26-entertainment/microbes-at-bottom-of-mariana-trench-thought-avatar-was-shit-201203265056/ ]excentric twonc annoys some people..... again[/url]

none of you have ever been to the isle of sheppey I take it?

the dark side of the moon as it looks just now;

[img] http://static.wix.com/media/0d8d3af3e4ce3d40856937cb7c2e6370.wix_mp [/img]
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see, it's like the same.

none of you have ever been to the isle of sheppey I take it?

No, is it very Lunar-like or very Mariana Trench-like?

No, is it very Lunar-like or very Mariana Trench-like?

I think it's rather Blue.

#firstworldproblems
It's really distressing when people describe a place you've never been and are never going to in terms that are relative to another place you've never been or are never going to. It can keep you night worrying about it that sort of thing can. Don't they realise how little imagination some people have, and how little brain resources they can afford to dedicate to resolving the seemingly irresolvable.

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the dark side of the moon as it looks just now;

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Here's James Cameron's artist impression of his planned lunar visit.

It's no picnic on the Moon, you know.

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oh.

Anyone else see him in his beeny hat and think of The Life Aquatic with Steve Zissou?

No sign of the Turnip Fish down there then?

Bloody S.O.P lied to me!!!!

Maybe it was his time of the month ?

I'd have refused to let him up again until he promised to stop making sh*te films.

Seriously though, it would have been a useful exercise if someone with scientific knowledge had made the dive, instead some rich playboy chose to fulfil his boyhood dream. Great!!

If it paves the way for proper scientists to make the dive then great. Otherwise, it was no better than Richard Branson ballooning (baffooning?) around the world.

Seriously though, it would have been a useful exercise if someone with scientific knowledge had made the dive, instead some rich playboy chose to fulfil his boyhood dream. Great!!

If you find yourself in the financial to achieve the seemingly impossible boyhood dream would you say "Nah! It's all right you go mate your a scientist" or would your finish that dream.

He also despite some rubbish films does have some serious talent for directing so I'm looking forward to his documentary. He even designed cameras to achieve the shots he wanted.

I've got nothing against him doing it, I'm just questioning the scientific merit of the exercise.

He does indeed have a talent for directing, which makes his more recent drivel even more galling.

If you look at the shadow on the sea bed you can see it goes the wrong way. There are also footprints on the edge of one of the pictures and the flag is fluttering. He never even went.
The conspiracy starts here!

Why did you even start this thread? Coming over as very bitter.

[i]Why did you even start this thread? Coming over as very bitter. [/i]

joao3v16 wanted to be an Octonaut, but failed the selection.

Just wait until Richard Branson comes back from space and describes it like being in a submarine- joao2v16's head will explode.

At least he didn't say it was like 'Das Boot'

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Why did you even start this thread? Coming over as very bitter

Partly to amuse myself, and I thought it was amusing/strange/pointless to use the trench/lunar comparison.

Bitter? About ...?

Just wait until Richard Branson comes back from space and describes it like being in a submarine- joao2v16's head will explode.

Yes, if he comes back and says it was 'very aquatic' ... at least him and James Macaroon will be able to have a meaningful conversation

"so James, what was the Mariana Trench like"
"it was very lunar"
"luna you say? I've been there, I can totally relate to that"
"yeh, but the general public can't Rich ... "

Exactly.
I once asked someone what snake meat tastes like.
They said "a bit like alligator, you ever had alligator?"
I haven't.

If you haven't had anything that tastes like snake meat, how was he supposed to describe it to you?

I've had Alligator meat as it happens, and I now know what snake meat tastes like.

Very helpful, thanks.

So if I ask James Cameron "what's the Mariana trench like?"
He'll say "a bit like the Moon, you ever been to the moon?"
I haven't.

Presuming you have never been anywhere like the Mariana trench,
and presuming that you do actually know what the moon looks like (if you don't, there is always google images to help)

If it indeed has similarities to the moon, what is actually wrong with his description ?

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Are you just having a "clever" Charlie Brooker style blog rant ?

(if so, it wasn't a very good one, sorry)

[i]Yes, if he comes back and says it was 'very aquatic' [/i]

Well, various others have.
[url] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_maria_on_the_Moon [/url]

If it indeed has similarities to the moon, what is actually wrong with his description ?

He said "[i]very[/i] lunar", not "sort of lunar"

'Very' implies to me being more than just 'similar'

reminds me of a bit on tmwrnj where stuart lee says something along the lines of

'whilst someone has now managed to hot air balloon around the world I would like to tell Richard Branson that no one has yet hot air ballooned into the center of the sun.

Looked for a vid on youtube but couldn't find one.

He said "very lunar", not "sort of lunar"
'Very' implies to me being more than just 'similar'

Well maybe it is.

You have never been.

Who are you to disagree ?

He's never been to the moon so how does he know the extent of similarity?

He's being quite specific about something he's only seen in photographs

Something he has seen is similar to something he's only seen in photographs. Fair point. Bit like seeing a lady's front bottom in real life for the first time. Might look a bit different but essentially it's very mingey.

[url= http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_submarine_topographical_features ]submarine topography[/url]

[url= http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Topography_of_the_Moon ]moon topography[/url]

a brief scan suggests that they are in no way similar in terms of relief features. Plus the lack of water on the moon and the mariana trench being at the bottom of the ocean suggests to me that they are very dissimilar. James Cameron is just a man with too much money who wants to bum both the bottom of the ocean and the moon at the same time.

joao3v16, at home:
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I'm sure he just meant it felt barren and remote. I expect the trip down carried considerable risk on his part. So well done to him.

James Cameron is just a man with too much money who wants to bum both the bottom of the ocean and the moon at the same time.

Best. Quote. This. Week.

Young man - have a biscuit!

😀

I wonder what his documentary's angle will be. I mean there isn't much going on down there other than darkness, and more darkness. I have a suspicion it will be as bad as avatar