[Closed] James Bond curious 8yr old

Oooh, do you want him to see violence, or 60's misogyny?

I vote start from the beginning and work through.

I started my nephews with MoonRaker, followed by OHMSS....

Oooh, do you want him to see violence, or 60’s misogyny?

This. The new stuff is great, but not for 8yr olds. The old stuff is shit, though with luck the casual racism and overt misogyny will go over their heads.

Stick to Barney etc.

To be fair, I was brought up on Bond in the 70s and turned out not to be racist or misogynistic. Or violent.

Or great at stunt driving, or mysteriously irresistible to much younger and more attractive women.

Either run through in sequence, or start with Roger Moore when they really were being played for laughs.

Oh god, can't people just accept them for what they are ? Entertainment movies made 30,40 years ago..

Why read more into them than needed.?

To be fair, I was brought up on Bond in the 70s and turned out not to be racist or misogynistic. Or violent.

I'd say with certainty that we (white, male boys) ALL turned out to be a bit racist and misogynistic. It was just so ingrained into every day society (by for example a good dollop of Bond at christmas) it's taken us 40 odd years to start to see it/us for what we were and start working it out of our systems.

We have all the movies (well the old ones) in a 25box set.

Where do we start

Haven't you watched them? Any of them? If you have, you must have an idea of which one would suit your child? (Mine - all a little older than yours - would wander off after about 10 minutes, especially with the Connery ones.)

We started ours off with Goldeneye as an easy way in. Although my two weren’t all that fussed, if they were keen to watch I would have started them from the beginning.

Why read more into them than needed.?

Cos there are about a bazillion alternatives to watch instead so no need?

Also, rewatching now - they are disappointedly shit. Best left as fond memories of the 45+ yr olds imo.

Oh god, can’t people just accept them for what they are ? Entertainment movies made 30,40 years ago..

Why read more into them than needed.?

Stone the unbeliever!

Oh god, can’t people just accept them for what they are ? Entertainment movies made 30,40 years ago..

Indeed, they are just entertainment movies made 30, 40 years. And they're full of casual racism and misogyny, as society was 30 or 40 years ago (and let's face it, still is). Just because it was 'okay' then, doesn't mean it's 'okay' now.

I’d say with certainty that we (white, male boys) ALL turned out to be a bit racist and misogynistic. It was just so ingrained into every day society (by for example a good dollop of Bond at christmas) it’s taken us 40 odd years to start to see it/us for what we were and start working it out of our systems.

This, basically.

Oh god, can’t people just accept them for what they are ? Entertainment movies made 30,40 years ago..

Why read more into them than needed.?

I think it's pretty important to not shy away from the past. I don't have any kids yet but I would want to make sure what my 8 yearolds, boy or girl understood that the attitudes on display weren't right then and still aren't right now. It does detract from them. In the same way friends seemed harmless but the amount of jokes about being gay or more specifically NOT being gay makes it pretty grim viewing now.

Also... Sean Connery is on video as saying hitting women is okay if they don't what they are told. He was also the shittest bond so it's quite easy just not to watch them.

He was also the shittest bond

Whooooooooooooah there sunshine....

He was though.

Some of his bond may be some of the better bond films. But not because he was in them.

But he's shite in everything he has ever been in.

I'd go with the Pierce Brosnan 3 - they are the ones I watched as a kid at time of launch, they dont feel too old our outdated yet they are far less 'serious' and gritty than the Daniel Craig Era.

Then go right back to the beginning if he enjoys it.

But he’s shite in everything he has ever been in.

How can you say that? I've never seen a more convincing portrayal of Russian submarine captain

Indeed, they are just entertainment movies made 30, 40 years. And they’re full of casual racism and misogyny, as society was 30 or 40 years ago

The early ones may reflect society as it was - I can't speak for that because it's before my time. Although, it is interesting that there were plenty of films from the 60s that didn't include casual racism and misogyny. (And plenty did, of course.)

But 30/40 years ago? We genuinely were quite enlightened by the late 80s, early 90s. Bond was seen as a moral dinosaur even then.

Haven’t you watched them? Any of them? If you have, you must have an idea of which one would suit your child?

In a word no. I dabbled for a bit but haven’t gone back to them

I was around that age when I seen For Your Eyes Only. I’d seen many others on TV before that, the one I recall the most being Live and Let Die.

I’d go with the Pierce Brosnan 3

I love to think you've written "3" as you are in complete denial of Die Another Day existing.

Wow your right, I didnt even really think through it properly but just assumed it was 3.

Make that 4!

It's not even been a year:
https://singletrackmag.com/forum/topic/which-bond-film-to-start-the-lad-on/

I think there's probably films I'd be happy for my 8 year to watch before we got around to Bond movies. From Disney to Shrek to; Oh I dunno, early Harry Potter, some of the Star wars, Princess Bride...Loads of stuff.

Save the young un a world of drudgery, point him/her in the direction of Mr Tumble or something more interesting than Bond.

@joshvegas +1 - Connery wasn't a patch on Roger Moore, which is a bloody low bar.

Don't forget animal House NickC

I think there’s probably films I’d be happy for my 8 year to watch before we got around to Bond movies. From Disney to Shrek to; Oh I dunno, early Harry Potter, some of the Star wars, Princess Bride…Loads of stuff.

This.
Add in Jurassic Park/World, How To Train Your Dragon, even some of the Tremors series and a host of other films that don't have sexist misogynist overtones, shit acting, plot holes you could drive a bus through and terrible special effects.

Anything before Timothy Dalton is watchable if you're late 30's onwards, kind of grew up with them on TV on Bank Holidays and there's bugger all else on. That's about their limit.

I tried to revisit some of the earlier ones, and must say they make for very unconfortable watching in parts, some scenes are just flat out rapey.

I remember going to see Moonraker with my dad, the first bond film I saw in the cinema.

When the Bond(Dr No) music starts I am 9 years old again.

I loved watching bond with my dad as a kid.

When I was a kid I wanted to be either Bond or a Spaceman. What do lads want to be when they grow up now ????

I remember going to see Moonraker with my dad, the first bond film I saw in the cinema.

Best double entendre ever....

I'd start with the mission impossible films myself.

I’d start with the mission impossible films myself.

Start with MI2. 1 is incomprehensible at times!

Start with MI2. 1 is incomprehensible bollocks.

They all blur into one for me, can't remember which ones I've seen...

Start with MI2. 1 is incomprehensible at times!

Of no concern to an 8 yr old.

For an 8 year old I'd start with The Spy Who Loved Me and then Moonraker. Loads of action and explosions, a baddie with metal teeth who turns out to be a nice guy, a car getting chased by a helicopter and then going underwater, scenery that's (literally at times) out of this world and, best of all, space marines fighting with lasers. What's not to like.

And at the end of Moonraker you get the joy of explaining to an 8 year old what the "I think he's attempting re-entry" joke means!

I grew up loving Bond movies but my kids (11 and 12) aren't that impressed with the older ones, and they hate it when I try to force my nostalgia onto them. I think back then we were used to waiting 40 minutes for an action scene because everything was slower paced. Our kids are used to instant gratification so if a movie isn't moving at 1000 miles per hour they're not interested.

As others have said, get them going with Mission Impossible and that kind of thing. Mine love the Transporter movies.

But he’s shite in everything he has ever been in.

The Rock, he’s good in that.

Bond films are shite. Just explain this to your eight year old and watch Spies in Disguise instead.

"Look son. When you're old enough to drink eventually you'll be hungover enough to watch it. Until then: it's shite."

Edit Transporter would be a bit spicy for an 8 yr old?

The Rock, he’s good in that.

I just watched 'Red notice' -

Dwayne Johnson ... John Hartley
Ryan Reynolds ... Nolan Booth
Gal Gadot ... The Bishop

A thourougly entertaining wholesome 'popcorn' hiest/action flick, I thought. Rated 12A, so basically suitable for any audience.

A thourougly entertaining wholesome ‘popcorn’ hiest/action flick

All the rock/Ryan Reynolds films are like that.

They basically spend their time taking the piss out of themselves. Far more entertaining than most bond films... And the girl gets to be in on the action rather than a piece of fluff on the side.

I genuinely enjoyed Red shift.
Made a nice change from mission impossible 32 or James bond 328.

There's a really good sense of humour to it.

But he’s shite in everything he has ever been in.

The Hill. The exception that proves the rule, classic movie along the lines of Ice Cold in Alex.

But the old Bond films are unwatchable. Carry On Spying.

I genuinely enjoyed Red shift.
Made a nice change from mission impossible 32 or James bond 328.

There’s a really good sense of humour to it.

Ah, the regular 'Where to start with Bond' thread.

Is your 8-year old genuinely curious? Or do you think they should be? Mine expressed interest in the older movies after seeing Casino Royal with Daniel Craig. A few minutes of Dr No was enough to send them off to watch Twitch.

My SO & I carried on and endured all of the Bond movies with the exception of David Niven's appearance as Bond. They have their moments.Had I not seen them all before on TV or at the movies from Moonraker on I'd not have persevered.

There are better movies. Spies in Disguise - better movie all round for an 8-year old, and most ages, than any of the pre-Dalton movies and more credible than many since.

A thourougly entertaining wholesome ‘popcorn’ hiest/action flick, I thought. Rated 12A, so basically suitable for any audience.

Yep, we enjoyed it as did my nephews (to whom I recommended it).

There’s another film on Sky called “SAS: Red Notice” which I’ve recently seen, it’s so terrible that I’m apoplectic with rage and cannot think straight 😂 Do not watch it!!

I watched this recently with the kids. Agree it is absolutely awful, but the kids loved it (11 and 12).

the one with Zorin.

A view to a Kill

Grace Jones
Christopher Walken
Duran duran
an air ship

That or Living Daylights w Timothy Dalton. The best bond.

(yeah thats right, ive said it, and you can't stop me)

best balance of Oldschool/Newschool.

It’s getting confusing.

Will give ‘SAS: Red Notice’ a miss, Thanks for the tipoff

Really enjoyed ‘Red Notice’, with tongue firmly in cheek.

Haven’t seen ‘Redshift’

Have seen ‘Red’. Wish I hadn’t, although it scores higher on Rotten Toms than does Red Notice. It seems that my tastes for OTT cheesy action/spy/crime-capers are still yet complicated.

Looking forward to the latest James Bond and I enjoyed Jack Ryan 1 and 2

The Jason Bourne series is still the one to beat, IMO. Maybe not for 8 year-olds tho.

Give over, RED is ace!

Nicked from Reddit.

These are 4 different "The Rock" films lol...

At least in the bottom left he's relaxed his confused-eyebrows acting technique.

I just watched ‘Red notice’ –

Dwayne Johnson … John Hartley
Ryan Reynolds … Nolan Booth
Gal Gadot … The Bishop

Unfortunately this disqualifies you from being allowed to comment on a film thread ever again! It was absolute gash of the highest order..

Ah, the regular ‘Where to start with Bond’ thread.

Is your 8-year old genuinely curious? Or do you think they should be?

They’ve come home and asked to watch it as some mates have. So I think the impetus is there.

We’ll make a choice and go for it. Moon Raker is looking popular

They’ve come home and asked to watch it as some mates have. So I think the impetus is there.

on their own heads be it 🙂

Moon Raker is looking popular

It was on a few Sundays ago, when I collapsed on the sofa after a few hours riding. It was undemanding and cheesy but still made far more sense than the most recent one. Still absolute rubbish, though. If I could have been bothered to find the remote it wouldn't have been on.

Moon Raker is looking popular

Some stunning sets and filming locations.

Start at the beginning and work your way through.