[Closed] Jacob Rees-Mogg

Why? Because you saw it mentioned on STW, googled it and thought it might make you sound more educated?

I think that if you're unable to come up with a coherent argument, the best thing to do is carry on insulting people. That'll definitely convince them.

Why I don't like him

He's a partner in an investment fund. By the Indi's rational, he has vested interests in just about every sector of the global stock market, as does anyone who has a pension which invests in the stock market (ie almost everyone).

Maybe think for yourself rather than letting a newspaper do your thinking.

Maybe think for yourself rather than letting a newspaper do your thinking

Good job you thought up that idea for me.

councilof10 - Member
STW: because he's rich and we're envious

Only in your head sweetie.

Everyone has given you reasons why they dislike him.
Not one person has said they dislike him because he's well off.

Stop throwing your toys out of the pram and grow up.

Clearly mogg is a man educated beyond his intelligence.

Outstanding member of Parliament and adds colour and variety to our country. His Channel 4 Referendum piece with Jess Phillips was one of the few highlights of a dire campaign. His put down about Eton to David Dimbleby on Question Time was also marvellous

Sooooooo predictable.......

Only in your head sweetie.

Everyone has given you reasons why they dislike them.
Not one person has said they dislike him because he's well off.

Stop throwing your toys out of the pram and grow up

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I like JRM but only as a lamp post decoration. Mid 1940's Italian style.

I have simply no idea where the OP has got the idea that JRM is liked by the youth. It's a mystery. They seem to quite like laughing at him, but that's not quite the same thing.

I have simply no idea where the OP has got the idea that JRM is liked by the youth.

Depends how you define 'youth'

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Don't worry though.... it's in line with the rest of the opinions he spouts on here.

He makes dear old Jammers look down wit da kidz! 😀

I would have imagined that a highly sophisticated and nuanced poster would be able to differentiate between 'rational' and 'rationale'.

Even the Tory party realise that to try to increase their appeal they need to move away from being led by pencil-necked public schoolboys and trustafarians.

He makes dear old Jammers look down wit da kidz!

Unlike yourself that thinks it's still acceptable to use homosexuality as an insult!

Hmmm.... maybe I was being too nuanced. Or not nuanced enough. Who knows.....

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He was on QT a few weeks back and he was basically just bullshitting, he still got a big round of applause from the more swivel eyed in the audience.

Like Johnson if we could have fact checking of MPs in real time, he'd have absolutely nothing left to say

Hes not quite the dimmest MP in the house though......

Dimmest MP is a hotly contested mantle within the present cabinet. Backbenchers don't get a look in!

Hmmm.... maybe I was being too nuanced. Or not nuanced enough. Who knows.....

I think it's quite sweet seeing a man open up, via the medium of an internet forum, to his latent, and previously repressed homosexuality.

Classy.

Seriously... it's quite moving

No matter how "nuanced" or thinly veiled you make you "insults", there's no hiding the fact that you're a homophobic ****.

Am I? Oh well .....if you say so.

I'd been previously unaware of this, but you do seem to right about most things, so I suppose I must be...

I blame my Catholic upbringing

Am I? Oh well .....if you say so.

You seem to think it's OK to suggest someone is a repressed homosexual as an insult. Do you really think that's acceptable??

You got the first bit right, not the second

Why would being homosexual, repressed or otherwise, be seen as an insult?

I thought that it was a beautiful moment for you to share your blossoming sexuality with the group. That's all.

Disagree with him on many issues - most notably Brexshit - but used to know him (a little) as a client in the 90s and have met him several times, hence IMO....

mrlebowski - Member
He's right of Atilla the Hun - don't be fooled by his affable exterior.

A thoroughly unlikeable individual

...is well wide of the mark. Intelligent, oddly vulnerable but extremely amusing and v good company IME

And amuses me to see that he still has old, wide lapel, double-breasted suit with a navy polka dot tie. Even his clothes haven't changed (since school)!!

Why would being homosexual be seen as an insult?

You tell me. You clearly used it to try and mock me, so why don't you share with us why you think it's acceptable to bring my sexuality into a debate about a politician?

I didn't read it as an insult and I'm gayer than Gaylord McGayface, winner of the Gayest Gay on the Planet of the Gays, Rainbow Galaxy.

U OK HUN? XXX

Replace the word "homosexuality" with "hetrosexuality" and ask yourself if the same question would have arisen in a debate about a female politician?

No, it absolutely wouldn't. Because Binners tried to get a cheap shot in at me, and being the outdated, bigoted dinosaur that he is, he assumed that I would consider it a slight to be accused of being a homosexual - repressed or otherwise.

I seem to have hit a nerve here.

Are you presently stained with the butter drips from crumpets?

I seem to have hit a nerve here.

Not particularly, apart from being offended that in 2017, people like you think it's OK to use homosexuality as an insult.

This sexual tension between you two (Binners and council) and talk of dripping butter is making me moist

Come on lads, let's get home, the sky's beginning to bruise, night must fall and we shall be forced to camp......

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camp

Christ, the insults are flying Binners!

Replace the word "homosexuality" with "hetrosexuality"

Are you referring to attracting people by wearing expensive trousers?

This place has become impossible. Nothing to eat, freezing cold and now a madman on the prowl outside with eels.

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It's gone. We do it wrong, being so majestical. To offer it the show of violence.....

And Onan knew that the seed should not be his; and it came to pass, when he went in unto his brother's wife, that he spilled it on the ground, lest that he should give seed to his brother.

https://readyformogg.org/

Get your votes in..

It could be like when all those Torys paid the Labour Party £2 to vote for Corbyn (that turned out well for them..._)

Excellent! I can't think of anything better than a PMQ's involving Jezza and Rees-Mogg. They could discuss the corn laws, or legalising homosexuality, or something 😀

why don't you share with us why you think it's acceptable to bring my sexuality into a debate about a politician?

Either way, the resulting two-page argument has made it quite difficult to clean up.

But... but.... he started it.....

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Edit: I have just noticed he's done some pretty sneaky stealth editing. Hey ho...

or something

Maybe making casual bigotry and sexual prejudice more tolerated? Would you prefer that? What about a bit of racism and misogynism? In fact why don't we just return to the 1970s so Binner's sense of humour might be a little more acceptable?

And there have been no stealth edits on my part...

Are you not bored of this yet Fred/Padded/Whatever....?

God knows, I am.

Maybe one day your frankly weird sociopathic obsession with having constant arguments with the people you feel have slighted you will allow you to live as a normal member of society. Imagine that?

Are you not bored of this yet Fred/Padded/Whatever....?

Once again, you're way off the mark. Are you not bored of sounding like a bad 1970s comedian?

The Reese-Mogg's performances on QT are the finest examples of a "passive-aggressive" tactical approach to modern political dialectics available, in the modern world of political discourse.

I find him strangely attractive.

Are you presently stained with the butter drips from crumpets?

Ooh. I'm Sorry, I think I just came...

Mr Woppit - Member

Ooh. I'm Sorry, I think I just [s]came[/s] arrived...

JRMed that for you

'Hetro', use of the apostrophe and 'misogynism' clearly show you lack the education of those you wish to be associated with. "Know your place" as JRM would say, "and learn the Queen's English."

The Reese-Mogg's performances on QT are the finest examples of a "passive-aggressive" tactical approach to modern political dialectics available, in the modern world of political discourse.

If you've ever got a spare half hour or so, he does an impressive line in filibusters...

[b]councilof10[/b]

You really aren't good at this discussion thing, are you? You went ad hom waaaay too soon. And you seem to be arguing that he should be given credit for having archaic moral views on the grounds that they fit with the tenets of a historically corrupt religious organisation which has done untold harm in Africa, when the majorty of its adherents in Western Europe don't take those tenets seriously,

What Keith Joseph described as the "politics of envy" are unattractive and I don't think his family's wealth should matter unless he acts in their interests rather than his constituents.

What I see with him, however, is an interesting mediocrity who attracts TV coverage but has not done much of significance yet...

So - no - I don't see why you are a bit moist about him... 🙂

Whereas Micheal Gove may have the most puncheable face in politics... but probably does have the intellect and did do some interesting stuff with prisons.

[b]AdamW [/b]- loving your work 🙂

i Like JRM in a strange kind of way, I don't believe (imo) he is the same as many career politicians, he seems to know a fair bit and doesn't mind holding his own party to account on the matter of parliamentary scrutineer sometimes so for that alone i like him.

On the subject of daft cabinet ministers are we really assuming this is all one sided and the third tier of labour shadow ministers are beyond reproach?

Some on both sides are pretty woeful.

If you've ever got a spare half hour or so

Spend half an hour watching that nugget? 😆

[s]Hetro[/s] Hetero', use of the apostrophe and 'misogynism' clearly show you lack the education of those with whom you wish to be associated [s]with[/s].

Adjusted That On Your Behalf.

he seems to know a fair bit

aaarrgggh

hes just of full of shit as Johnson- uses half truths, non sequiturs and pomposity to win debates, in just the same way, its a show that wears thin quickly.

goes off to find his QT appearance from a few weeks back which was a lesson in grandiose bollox

hes just of full of shit as Johnson

QT appearance from a few weeks back which was a lesson in grandiose bollox

according to you..

Which is fine but not everyone will agree

...is well wide of the mark. Intelligent, oddly vulnerable but extremely amusing and v good company IME

Really THM? Really??

It must have been his evil clone I saw in the last round of HIGNFY that came across as a really rather repugnant & unlikeable man.

But then, I am only judging him on his opinions rather than his affability as a luncheon partner..

We will have to agree to disagree......

You went ad hoc waaaay too soon

I refer you to page 2....

I'm questioning whether it's sensible to reply to someone who's clearly not equipped for this debate, but I'll give you the benefit of my doubts one last time.

Here's the kettle - over there's the pot!

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The Mash pretty much nails my view of R-M
http://www.thedailymash.co.uk/politics/politics-headlines/jacob-rees-mogg-sent-from-1923-to-save-conservative-party-20170629130748

Micheal Gove may have the most puncheable face in politics... but probably does have the intellect and did do some interesting stuff with prisons.

I'd vote for him doing more of that. Laundry duty, washing the lavatories, that kind of thing.

uses half truths, non sequiturs and pomposity to win debates, in just the same way,

I didn't realise he had an account on STW.

Does a troll have to be a comment [u]on[/u] a thread, or can a thread itself be classified as a troll?

Because this one certainly is, and a jolly good one at that (four bleedin pages)!

<Tips hat>

Why thank you Daniel. And I don't believe the fat lady has even started her vocal exercises!

Now, after four bleedin pages, is there a chance that anyone would like to discuss the original point, without the usual STW anti-privilege bigotry and liberal virtue signalling?

As I alluded to in earlier posts, JRM has developed a sizeable cult following amongst younger voters. And in spite of his borderline ridiculous appearance and countenance, I believe him to be a very capable politician with a brilliant intellect and a clear-thinking mind which makes him either potentially a future star in government, or very dangerous.

Have we done his dog yet....

....and the gap jumps built on his "estate" for the hoipolloi to play on?

is there a chance that anyone would like to discuss the original point, without the usual STW anti-privilege bigotry and liberal virtue signalling?

He's awesome, I for one just want my betters to tell me what to do, where to go and how to arrange my cuttlery and then I can just get on with shovelling cess and growing an eminently doffable forelock.

I don't know anything about him other than I've seen him on TV...he seems a bit odd.

OP, as you are aware Mr R-M is an insy-winsy bit RW and a left - footer to boot (sorry). Neither should be, nor will be toleratesd - this is STW after all and standards have to be kept at the appropriate level. 😉

Further communication on such topics should be discouraged....

He's a Brexshiteer too....

[quote=councilof10 ]As I alluded to in earlier posts, JRM has developed a sizeable cult following amongst younger voters.

But are they laughing with him or at him?

councilof10 - Member
Why thank you Daniel. And I don't believe the fat lady has even started her vocal exercises!

Now, after four bleedin pages, is there a chance that anyone would like to discuss the original point, without the usual STW anti-privilege bigotry and liberal virtue signalling?

As I alluded to in earlier posts, JRM has developed a sizeable cult following amongst younger voters. And in spite of his borderline ridiculous appearance and countenance, I believe him to be a very capable politician with a brilliant intellect and a clear-thinking mind which makes him either potentially a future star in government, or very dangerous.

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Too desperate. Davidtaylforth wouldn't have gone for that. He'd have sat back and let someone else try to 'put the thread back on track' before using his stoker a bit more.

8/10 for the original 'thread as troll'.

Minus two to 6/10 for not being able to let the hand develop before going all-in.

Mr R-M is an insy-winsy bit RW and a left - footer to boot (sorry). Neither should be, nor will be toleratesd - this is STW after all and standards have to be kept at the appropriate level.

thank god you are so polite to all the politicians, especially the Scottish ones, who you disagree with

As always you are an example to us all ...i shall leave others to decide in what way 😉

No one is anti catholic on here ,anti religious granted[ or rational and fact based ]as I prefer to call it but not anti catholic. .PS Jesus said turn the other cheek not moan relentlessly about it for ever . What was it he said about the rich and the kingdom of heaven again?
What are your "mates" chances?

OP, as you are aware Mr R-M is an insy-winsy bit RW

Hmmmm...

"Rees-Mogg is a supporter of zero-hour contracts, arguing that they benefit employees, including students, by providing flexibility and could provide a route into more permanent employment.[39] He rejected criticism by Vince Cable and others that they were exploitative as "the standard response of the left".[39]

Writing in The Daily Telegraph in May 2013, the Eurosceptic Rees-Mogg, asked whether it was time to make a "big open and comprehensive offer" to UKIP. He said collaboration would be straightforward as policies were similar on "many issues" and most Conservatives would prefer Nigel Farage to Nick Clegg as deputy PM.[40] His remarks angered his party leadership whilst UKIP said it was against any formal arrangements.[41] Paul Goodman, editor of the political blog ConservativeHome, said he believed a short-term pact was both impractical and undesirable.[41]

Rees-Mogg is a monarchist.[42] Regarding global warming he thinks solutions that do not hinder technological progress should be sought.[43]

He opposes same-sex marriage, saying that he is "not proud" of it being legal and that it will alienate "traditional supporters" of his party.[44][45] Rees-Mogg's reasoning for this is that gay marriage does not align with the Catholic faith, saying "It's purely a religious matter. It's a question of what is a sacrament."[46]

Initially a supporter of Donald Trump in the 2016 U.S. Presidential Election,[47] he distanced himself from the then-Republican nominee after the Donald Trump and Billy Bush recording surfaced in October 2016.[48] Rees-Mogg later described Trump as being "sympathetic to the UK" out of "genuine affection" for the country.[49]

Rees-Mogg campaigned for a "Leave" vote in the 2016 EU membership referendum.[50]

[url= https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jacob_Rees-Mogg#Political_views ]Source: Wiki[/url]

Yes, just an ickle bit right of centre.....

Come on THM - you can do better than that!

Might [u]just[/u] have been plausible as a troll but way too much emotional engagement with the subject for it to work properly. Now in danger of slouching towards Edinburgh...

Can somebody remind me who council used to be?

Mrb, did the irony not come through....? 😉

On ZHC he's spot on....both mini THMs have benefitted from them immensely so thank God (are we allowed to do that) that we don't have any of the nutters trying to ban them.

aracer - Member
Can somebody remind me who council used to be?

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Shibboleth, I believe.

Trolling, trolling...... trolling on the river.

Sky News last week:

[i]“If we leave without a deal, the great news is we don’t have to give the European Union any money at all. This has clearly been established in EU, UK and international law by an excellent report by a House of Lords committee. So that’s the first thing. We keep all our money if we leave without a deal.
And we then trade on WTO terms, which is how we do about 60% of our global trade currently. So it’s a really strong position. It’s maintaining other international agreements. It’s not that there is a complete vacuum- It’s that we just fall back on older arrangements that we use with other countries.”

“Under the 1972 European Communities Act and as a member of the European Union, ECJ judgments are the highest law in the land. They overturn UK law. That cannot continue after Brexit.”

“Can the ECJ act as a tribunal, in the way that the WTO has a tribunal, and the European Court of Human Rights acts as a tribunal? Which may then be accepted into British law, but can be refused. That’s an entirely separate question.”

“Leaving the EU is a fantastic opportunity for the United Kingdom and potentially for the EU as well.”[/i]

Mrb, did the irony not come through....?

I wuz jus checkin'!

Rees Mogg is a classic upper class twit. He took his nanny with him when canvassing and said " doesn't everyone have one" when questioned on this

He is also more than a bit dim in the "nous" sense- so a perfect tory leader.

He would be a huge electoral liability tho - so I hope he is appointed.

Is he "real"?

Having been educated at Slough Grammar, maybe not??

tjagain - Member
He took his nanny with him when canvassing and said " doesn't everyone have one" when questioned on this

Shibbers, eh?
I think you're going to have to up your game sunshine, some tough competition at the moment....
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Maybe one day your frankly weird sociopathic obsession with having constant arguments with the people you feel have slighted you will allow you to live as a normal member of society. Imagine that?