Sorry I don't see the connection so run along now and chug one out under your bridge
I'm just going to leave this here.
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Ignore the Graun's embarrassing attempt to combine two parts of the interview into a clickbait headline (they really don't need to).
Just have a look at what he is actually saying. If the first word that enters your head is not an insult, you are not a normal person.
I saw this earlier via stalkbook. Words fail me. Polite ones anyway.
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Rees-Mogg = Bellend.
Quite how he gaining traction as a possible future party leader is beyond me, but then again, Brexit, Trump, hmmmmm.
Oh yes, people are basically ****ing idiots.
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So moggies speech at UWE was interrupted by a bunch of boors in balaclavas... Yeah they were Muppets.
But it seems that the guy caught on film starting the scuffle by slapping a girl there, contrary to moggs claims is part of his own security team and likes dressing up as a Nazi at fancy dress parties.
We'll only get the full wondrous financial dividends of Brexit if we halve corporation tax, scrap workers rights/the minimum wage, and entirely deregulate, apparently.
Or is it that him and his rich mates will, and screw everyone else - can't quite work it out.
But it seems that the guy caught on film starting the scuffle by slapping a girl there
I'm no fan of JRM or tories whatsoever, but i'm not sure that's true.
The video i saw he was lifting his arm to protect against a punch that was about to be thrown by the girls fella, who was standing behind her. His fore arm hit her on the chin as he lifted up to defend the punch, but she was not punched or slapped as she claimed. It was undoubtedly accidental.
Edit: found the video.
Hmm, I'm not sure he intended to hit the girl when he raised his arms towards the bloke behind but suggesting he was just acting in self defence is being incredibly generous towards him and misinterpreting the sequence of events. In fact the first act of aggression I can see in that video is Mogg's thug putting his hand on the girl's face followed by him putting his arm across her throat. Quite clear acts of assault there, which all occurred before the other bloke raised his fists - in fact it looks a lot like the other bloke raised his fists precisely because Mogg's thug was assaulting his g/f. Even when he then lifts his arm and hits the girl it's far from simply defending himself - he's clearly aiming his fists at the bloke behind.
Though that video doesn't show the start of the incident anyway. Check out this to see where the first act of aggression came from (I've linked to the incident, but you can rewind to see it was all peaceful before that).
Anyway, I opened this thread because I'd been looking for somewhere to post this article, and it seems this thread is the place for it.
Be afraid, be very afraid (unless you think as I've seen suggested that JRM as PM would kill Brexit - I'm not sure I believe that).
the chap in the white top at a family do, with friends like these Jacob who needs enemies ?
Ally Mcoist was a nazi?
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And I bet he's been in a diesel.
Interesting
if you want to continue to allege he somehow some part of JRM's "security" then you shoot down your own argument that it was assault, because the law allows him to use reasonable force to eject a trespasser
Worth also commenting that since they aparrently entered without tickets to disrupt the meeting they were committing an aggravated trespass, so you could argue he has powers under criminal law act to intervene even if he wasn't part of the event/security team anyway
But of course, none of that applies if he's a Nazi (or just an Ed Balls walt)
Reasonable force indeed is alowable ninfan - however running at someone and throwing punches is hardly reasonable force
Surprising thing is how well Mogg handled it in that video.
Want a bet o the thug "security guard" being done for assault - 'cos that is what it was.
<span style="color: #444444; font-size: 12px;">Worth also commenting that since they aparrently entered without tickets to disrupt the meeting </span>
the girl Moggs pet Nazi hit wasnt part of the balaclava crew was she?
[b]tjagain[/b] wrote:
Reasonable force indeed is alowable ninfan – however running at someone and throwing punches is hardly reasonable force
It's also expected that force isn't the first resort - given the chap was just talking at JRM it's not as if he posed any immediate threat to justify the attack. I don't think that would provide any defence against an assault charge whether or not he was officially part of JRM's security team (TBH it doesn't look like JRM needs a security team - as despicable as he might be otherwise he actually does a really good job of defusing that situation).
[b]ninfan[/b] wrote:
Worth also commenting that since they aparrently entered without tickets to disrupt the meeting they were committing an aggravated trespass, so you could argue he has powers under criminal law act to intervene even if he wasn’t part of the event/security team anyway
What powers are those ninny?
Idiots on both sides. Mogg handled it well.
Interesting who jumps to the defence of the bloke hitting out at a women because her words offended his poor little ears.
<span style="color: #444444; font-size: 12px;"> (or just an Ed Balls walt</span>
Its always good when the hard right try their "oh look a squirrel" routine.
Then you have the complexity of whether using reasonable force would cover hitting someone as opposed to restraints. Messy and would keep lawyers occupied. I was taught though smacking someone should only be done if they are a real threat.,
Then there is whether if he was part of Rees Moggs security that would mean he had authority. Since a)Moggs denies it thats a flaw and b)its would also be questionable whether he would have any authority other than to protect Mogg. The booting people out bit sitting with uni security.
Still its good to see someone might be thinking long term and learning from history. Those early bar room brawlers/bodyguards mostly did well for themselves (well for a few years).
[b]kimbers[/b] wrote:
the girl Moggs pet Nazi hit wasnt part of the balaclava crew was she?
Good point - and neither was the chap who was initially assaulted (who was face to face with JRM at that point). At the start of my video they were both sitting down on chairs at the back and given they were being left alone at the end when security were ejecting the balaclava mob it seems reasonable to assume they weren't trespassing at all, hence none of ninny's defences apply.
The Moggmeister's (*) stock rises yet again. Attacked by Momentum thugs he rises above it all
(*) see what I did there 🙂
I just want him to be leader of the Tory party as it will completely bomb and prove just how out of touch tories really are if they think someone like him would go down well with the general public.
<span style="color: #444444; font-size: 12px; background-color: #eeeeee;">The Moggmeister’s (*) stock rises yet again. Attacked by Momentum thugs he rises above it all</span>
and thats the problem the made up version of events that jambs just cited becomes the narrative
Oh I don’t know - look what Labour did. Turned a no-hoper into a potential PM. It’s a very odd world.
Trump, Corbyn, Sturgeon, JRM....
…May.
I don't even know what this what-aboutery is about.
Cant believe it took that long for someone to mention Corbyn.
