How did this tory stiffie ever come to represent people ? Keep seeing him on tv. Reminds me of tory boy from viz...
his dad
He [i]seems [/i]to have conviction in his thoughts and opinions which is one trait that's hard to find in the era of safe spaces and the right to be offended. Looks and sounds a proper **** I agree.
He's a caricature of the posh Tory - TV loves him.
Guessing his constituency is posh-rural...
I think he should take the mog mobile on a tour of "uk's top 10 dumps", get to know the real folk
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first past the post system means loads of safe seats for both parties. so if yo want in to parliament and are a vote losing liability like him but have the right connections as he does then you get a nice safe seat and bingo - despite being a total dimwit with no idea of the real world you get into parliament.
He was given a few hopeless seats first to try his hand in tho. He took his nanny with him campaigning in a working class community in fife which shows how out of touch he is and also
Rees-Mogg himself stated (in The Sunday Times, 23 May 1999) that "it is rather pathetic to fuss about accents too much", though he then went on to say that "John Prescott's accent certainly stereotypes him as an oaf"
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He is my MP, north east Somerset, so yes, rural and abit posh in places. He turned up to a local hustings before the last election with a rosette on his lapel the size of a Labrador.
Annoyingly at the end of the hustings you were left thinking he was clearly the most competent candidate we had available, but this is more the quality the opposition put up against him.
The greens was a 19yr old student at bath, Lib dems couldn’t be bothered to turn up so sent her husband, I can't even think who came for labour and the ukiper paced back and forth frothing at the mouth about black people taking our jobs, which is clearly a massive issue in a small village just outside Bristol.
Not saying I voting for him of course.
I can't stand him, I have yet to understand how someone so odiously unoriginal has come to be viewed by the general public as intelligent. The conviction in his rather simplistic beliefs pisses me off even further.
first past the post system means loads of safe seats for both parties
Exactly. I live in an extremely safe tory seat and can't imagine what a dick the tory MP would need to be to actually lose.
He's my MP too, as far as I can make out his views don't represent the area at all well, or at least anyone I know!
Saw him at the weekend, despite being at a large public event he didn't seem to be interacting with any of his subjects, though have heard he tells a good tale down the pub...
Unfortunately as cashback says, I don't see him being kicked out any time soon, last election Labour had an American standing for them (Todd someone), and the Lib Dem candidate didn't even live in the constituency. Pre-Mogg we had a Labour MP, so have no idea where all of his support has gone.
The predecessor seat was held by Labour so clearly a safe seat! His initial majority was 5,000. He increased it to 12,000 so relatively safe now.
He's an eloquent and witty speaker, I'll give him that.
He's also anti EU, self entitled and a bit of an arsehole, so leavers see that and it chimes a chord with their own beliefs, and vote for him.
He is also very popular in the House of Commons, many Labour and SNP MPs describe him as their favourite Tory. As my nanny said "Manners maketh the man."
My parents live in his constituency. I may be wrong, but I think the seat boundary got changed to cut of an area towards Midsomer Norton which was historically Labour.
Sounding more like a first past the butler system, the more I read.
Or as is written somewhere else, "by his friends, so shall he know him."
And JRM has some pretty odious ones by anyone's standards.
I can see why he gives forelock tugging right wingers erections, and I imagine he'd be fun to join for a drink, but he's an irrelevance in a progressive age. The regressive referendum campaign gave him a prominence he's never done anything to deserve.
Mhairi Black (SNP MP for Paisley and Renfrewshire) summed him up pretty well:
I could sit and listen to him all day, I disagree with him 99.9 per cent of the time, and that wee percent is just because he’s got good manners. But I love listening to him, his knowledge is incredible, and he’s so polite.’
Sounding more like a first past the butler system, the more I read.
Oh for sure, I'd be surprised if knew how to tie his shoe laces or boil an egg without assistance.
I think he's a prick tbh but you need some pricks in your parliament. And no doubt there's plenty of others that are just as much a prick but hide it, he has the honesty to openly be a prick. He doesn't come out with "we're all in this together"
He's also anti EU, self entitled and a bit of an arsehole, so leavers see that and it chimes a chord with their own beliefs, and vote for him.
Didn't take long to get some Brexit abuse did it ?
I'm not sure how what I said could be framed as abuse, he's fairly open about his anti EU position.
Care to explain why you think my comment was abusive?
My comment on him being an arsehole was a comment on what I think of him as person, and not his political persuasion.
jambalaya's obviously feeling quite sensitive today. 😆
[quote=mattyfez said]I'm not sure how what I said could be framed as abuse, he's fairly open about his anti EU position.
Care to explain why you think my comment was abusive?
My comment on him being an arsehole was a comment on what I think of him as person, and not his political persuasion.
Perhaps if you'd said
"He's also anti EU so leavers see that and it chimes a chord with their own beliefs, and vote for him." then you wouldn't come across as being abusive.
But you didn't.
[url= https://www.ft.com/content/d5efd3a0-b32f-11e6-a37c-f4a01f1b0fa1 ]How the Tory party works[/url]
It may well not be true, but I heard that at Hansard they refer to him as The Honourable Member for the 1930's...
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I used commas to be fair.
It's not my fault if you have a poor understanding of language.
A bit like the difference between 'let's give the NHS £350mil' and 'we will give the NHS £350mil'.
He lives in the next village from where I grew up and have met him a few times when he has been knocking on doors. To be fair he is a nice guy and is happy to have a good argument. He is also very very good to his constituents and really puts the effort in sorting out problems that people have. This holds him in good stead with a lot of people who wouldn't vote Tory. I now live about 10 miles away near Cheddar and would much prefer to have him than the bell end Tory MP we currently have, total waste of space. p.s. I am not a tory voter and have never been.
Comes across as intelligent and eloquent and not too offensive. Can't say I find his Commons voting record so inoffensive:
[url= https://www.theyworkforyou.com/mp/24926/jacob_rees-mogg/north_east_somerset/votes ]Mogg's voting record[/url]
I'm disappointed. Thread title led me to expect a picture of a dog that looked exactly like JRM 🙁
https://www.theyworkforyou.com/mp/24926/jacob_rees-mogg/north_east_somerset/votes
Just a quick browse through and it's pretty much as expected.
Against gay rights and same sex marriage, but *for*human rights?
That's a bit incoherent.
Consistently voted against raising welfare benefits at least in line with prices
I could pull it apart further but it makes for fairly predictable reading. The guy is a cee yeu enn tee.
I don't like his image or his politics, but he seems to stand by his convictions, and in a documentary I was surprised how well he seemed to deal with a variety of constituents problems.
He's not stupid, and you would be foolish to think so. However he is a massive dick and gets a lot of TV time as people like to point and laugh, however I suspect he has the last laugh.
One of the most alarming things he like to talk about is employment rights, I quote" “We could say, if it’s good enough in India, it’s good enough for here. There’s nothing to stop that"; so his input on the post Brexit employment rights should be good.
Then there is the 'nanny' issue:
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/comment/10698217/Jacob-Rees-Mogg-My-nanny-made-me-the-man-I-am.html
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Seems like a nice guy....
Consistently voted against equal gay rights
Consistently voted against smoking bans
Consistently voted against allowing marriage between two people of the same sex
Generally voted against laws to promote equality and human rights
Consistently voted against allowing terminally ill people to be given assistance to end their life
Was it trouble with offshore banking? Avoiding mansion tax? Immigrant nanny's taking all the jobs?how well he seemed to deal with a variety of constituents problems
Consistently voted against allowing terminally ill people to be given assistance to end their life
Well that makes sense, he's never going to vote to allow the people who vote for him to die early is he.
if it’s good enough in India, it’s good enough for here. There’s nothing to stop that"; so his input on the post Brexit employment rights should be good.
Let's see how long he'd last on £20 a week or less.
That pretty much says all you need to know about moggy.
He seems like he was born a century or 2 too late
or thats the image he likes to cultivate
really hes just a shit-stirring bigot
imho
mattyfez - MemberAgainst gay rights and same sex marriage, but *for*human rights?
Pff, gays aren't human
He's proof that by spending enough on its education you [b][u]can[/u][/b] polish a turd. Could be worse, there was an attempt to slide his unpleasant sister into parliament a couple of GEs ago, but even the Rees-Mogg party connections couldn't quite secure her a safe enough seat.
Is this thread anything at all to do with dogs or is it just another conservative / toff bashing one?
Is this the fellow?
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^ That's a caricature of an affable harmless eccentric, rees-moog is something entirely different but cut from the same cloth into an image more akin to a throwback to the east india company at their worst.
Is this thread anything at all to do with dogs or is it just another conservative / toff bashing one?
Go on then.. here's Jacob
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Lucky - I don't mind a tory who understands the world - Annabelle Goldie for an example or Kenneth Clarke for another. I detest adn despise people like Rees Mogg who are where they are because of who they are and who have no idea what life is like for most of us.
He took his nanny campaigning with him in Fife FFS and was suprised when folk thought it odd.
He is also a crashing snob and a proven liar
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I like Jacob 🙂
That's no great surprise tbh.
despise people like Rees Mogg who are where they are because of who they are and who have no idea what life is like for most of us.
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He even had a nanny...
I didn't like Benn much either....
Ken Dodd's Dad's dogs' dead.
Ninfan - the difference is Benn at least had some idea of how normal folk live and tried to help them as you would know if you had read any of his writings
the difference is Benn at least had some idea of how normal folk live and tried to help them as you would know if you had read any of his writings
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For comparison, a farm labourer in the mid 1920s earned £2-3 per week
My point made.
Wow, did Zulu post a photo of a "lefty"?
He did! And one of his most hated too! 😆
How many times has he done that today?
Is it me or did the saviour of the Tory party 😉 just brick it and try and get himself out of the hotseat?
Well, it shows he's not a Pagan (cheers Stormzy) doesn't it.
(Press asks obvious question of devout caolic, gets expected reply)
He is your "kids up chimmneys" sort of bloke.
Exactly what the death throes of the Tory Party need....
Hope he gets elected to party leader...
That "even after rape" headline is a lovely piece of bias. The guy explained why he was opposed to abortion and it was pretty obvious it was abortion under any circumstances.
Its almost as if the Guardian had an agenda to follow.
It did score quite highly on my "Well-durrr-ometer"...(Press asks obvious question of devout caolic, gets expected reply)
Even after rape by a family member FFS
Even after rape by a family member FFS
I'm presuming that being against abortion in [i]all[/i] circumstances doesn't necessarily mean that he's actually advocating inter-familial rape of course.
(Best leave that sort of stuff to the priests...)
He is your "kids up chimmneys" sort of bloke.Exactly what the death throes of the Tory Party need....
Hope he gets elected to party leader...
Careful.
Remember what happened the last time all the opposition to Crowbin jumped on that particular bandwagon. ..
I hate to agree with Ninfan, but (and I'm being Devil's Advocate here) if you're anti abortion, then the circumstances should be pretty immaterial. Two wrongs don't make a right, killing the unborn child doesn't make the other bad thing not happen.
Farron had to resign for being a Christian let's hope this **** gets his arse kicked for it as well.
Worth remembering that abortion has always been a free vote issue in parliament, since it's a matter of conscience.
If Mogg was saying anything along the lines of 'I would ban abortion' then it would be a huge issue, but in this case it's entirely a matter of his own opinion
The question is somewhat from the "when did you stop beating your wife" school of journalism
He speaks for, and appeals to, a huge section of the support of a party that is consistently getting more votes, and more seats, than any other party. Don't bet against him becoming PM after May falls. His consistent support for the kind of Britain that could well become essential after Brexit, if things go the worst kind of wrong, could well leave him well placed to slash and burn to make us "competitive". Don't laugh and dismiss him.
I'm presuming that being against abortion in all circumstances doesn't necessarily mean that he's actually advocating inter-familial rape of course.
He's morally, only one rung above being a rape apologist.
The most Catholic country on the planet outside of the vatican, is the Philippines and even they are changing their minds about this.
kind of Britain that could well become essential after Brexit,
no to gay marriage and no to abortion- in any case including rape, according to him this morning during a tv appearance. Is it essential we become that way?
No, but such socially illiberal values might help him become party leader.
no to gay marriage and no to abortion- in any case including rape, according to him this morning during a tv appearance. Is it essential we become that way?
Interesting, have you got a link to him actually suggesting that he wants the law changed or advocating the banning of either post Brexit?
Or are you just extrapolating that his personal opinions on an issue mean that he is somehow ideologically committed to outlawing them for others?
I reckon that as a (both big C and small c) conservative, his opinion is far more likely that these things are a matter for personal choice rather than the state.
Im not sure his abortion stance would make him more popular.
as a catholic will he ban contraception as well?
We need stronger womb border controls, not less. As the Conservatives keep telling us, there are too many people in the UK.
hmm.. just curious why the word 'essential' was used.
[url= http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-41172426 ]http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-41172426[/url]
Source of his comments above. Based on his passed voting record (look it up), its a pretty safe bet he'd support the pushing through of any such horrific legislation were it to occur.
the only big C he is rhymes with hunt, Ninfan.
Interesting, have you got a link to him actually suggesting that he wants the law changed or advocating the banning of either post Brexit
He literally voted against it. There is no 'separation of his personal beliefs and his politics' by the looks of it.
Consistently voted against equal gay rights Show votes
0 votes for, 7 votes against, between 2013–2014
Consistently voted against allowing marriage between two people of same sex Show votes
0 votes for, 6 votes against, in 2014
hmm.. just curious why the word 'essential' was used.
Why "essential"? Because unlike others who seem to be happy with a "no deal" Brexit, he's been honest enough to talk about the rapid, drastic (and my view painful) changes we'll have to make as a country. I dislike his politics, but he would be well placed to do well, and maybe even become PM, in a no deal scenario. [b]Take him seriously. And I mean that as a warning, not as support for him.[/b]
