[Closed] I've been robbed!

Maybe keep him talking/typing to get your £19 worth. You'd have rip off a lot of people at £19 each to make a worthwhile amount of money surely? If I had to reply to 100 messages for each £19 I'd probably think twice. Can you sign his number up to loads of dodgy websites etc?

You’d have rip off a lot of people at £19 each to make a worthwhile amount of money surely?

Well that's what I thought. I mean £19K or even £1900 & it becomes viable! £19 seems a low rip off amount.
I'll wait a couple of days & message again & see if he puts anything else on.

Go and throw him in the canell.

Ask yourself this; does this guy really sound like the kind of person who is living a life of luxury, ripping people off for £19 a go? Not really. Much more likely to be someone with possibly quite complex issues, who may struggle in life and just ****s things up. Perhaps a bit of perspective is helpful; is your situation possibly better than his? If so, then is it really worth losing sleep over £19? I've had crap food in restaurants that's cost a lot more than that. Of course, it could just be that he's a ****, but it seems like an awful lot of trouble to go to just for £19. Personally, the best outcome for me would be to write off the £19, try and imagine that it's doing him some good, possibly, and just move on. Life's too short.

I was going to say something simmilar, there's not much comeback on a bank transfer, especialy for £19 so if he was out to scam you, why would he waste his time replying and spinning a yarn?

I guess we'll never know, and it is only £19.. He sounds a bit 'simple' but he could also be a real pro either way..I think I'd chalk this up to experience and not make bank transfers to unknowns.

Ask yourself this; does this guy really sound like the kind of person who is living a life of luxury, ripping people off for £19 a go?

No but he does sound like the sort of petty criminal who rips people off for whatever he can get to afford his next hit of whatever he's addicted to. OPs 19 quid is gone but Id expect the forks to go for a bit more, and sounds like a string of other stuff (allegedly) for sale, so he had the time to do that but not to get to the post office or reply to the OP again.

Frozen sausages etc. Although I just thought the OP was telling the tale rather than planning a vigilante campaign of shitting down a chimney.

serves you right for being a tight fisted old ****.

get some new one bought ebenezer............... :o)

Inciteful. Concise.

ton for Prime Minister. 😃

Maybe keep him talking/typing to get your £19 worth.

OPs post worth about £19 in terms of time and materials.

You seem to be outing a guy who has problems, nice.

He might have problems, which would be a shame, but I don't think that gives him the right to someone else's money. If he can't cope with all the messages he gets and therefore has to keep peoples money without sending them the goods they've paid for, then he should probably stop trying to "sell" things.

I got the impression the OP was sharing an anecdotal story rather than outing him and unleashing the full wrath of the internet.

Hopefully he really is just a bit crap and the pedals arrive, then the lynch mob can go home and the bleeding hearts can stop hyper ventilating.

It was because he had toothache

Was it a root canell?

I like this story. Please keep us updated.

I've got some pedals, PayPal gift ??

He might have problems, which would be a shame, but I don’t think that gives him the right to someone else’s money

True but it’s not nice to make fun of his dyslexia.

Nothing to add except my total sympathy for the OP and I think he's perfectly reasonable to share it with his virtual mates as therapy.

It's the just the £20. I've been lucky with trusting people online and it gives me a happy warm feeling about my fellow man.

On encounter with a scrote like this and It tarnishes all our trust in each other.

serves you right for being a tight fisted old ****.

get some new one bought ebenezer…………… :o)

I should've asked you 1st pal!

True but it’s not nice to make fun of his dyslexia.

There's only 2 mentions of dyslexia up to now. One on the quote by the seller & one by you.

You seem to be outing a guy who has problems, nice.

Wrong. I'm saying what happened, is that ok?

Hey OP I’m with you. Someone has their back up (can’t be arsed re-reading the thread) but grifters and scammers for which appear to have found an fine example, can F-R-O.

Wrong. I’m saying what happened, is that ok?

Not only did you name them, you felt the need to use their spelling of canal.

His biggest problem is probably trying to keep track of the 30 or 40 bullshit stories he's told people that he hoped would earn him £570 or £760!

You seem to be outing a guy who has problems, nice.

Only problem is living up to his end of the bargain. Excuse after excuse. Honestly, wait about a fortnight6, personally I dont see you doing that either without at least personal concerns.

Update, he's just put this on for sale, still ignoring my messages though!

@drac for a prroppa Northumbrrian, I can't believe ypur'e so soft in the head.

Ex inmate screwing over an ex screw? 😉

Love how you relate an amusing little story including copy/paste of text. You’ve lost £20 and somehow you’re the villain. I love this place

Love how you relate an amusing little story including copy/paste of text. You’ve lost £20 and somehow you’re the villain.

Only telling exactly how it is.

I know. Laughable isn't it?

Man gets scammed for his hard earned money and explains his story to his online friends with no malice etc ,but still gets told its his fault for outing a person with problems 😕, only problem I can see is theft. Not really even justifiable Drac only you mentioned the dyslexia, not that it matters

Man gets scammed for his hard earned money and explains his story to his online friends with no malice etc ,but still gets told its his fault for outing a person with problems 😕, only problem I can see is theft. Not really even justifiable Drac only you mentioned the dyslexia, not that it matters

Who's Drac?

Do we get points for needless hand wringing? Free stiff from the store or something? That’s the only reasonable explanation I can think of for defending the scammer. Something, something next time child’s face

Sorry have I missed something (apologies if so) but Drac is the person above posting saying that it's your fault for outing someone with dyslexia even though you didn't, when really you've been robbed of your money

OP did you use the report user function in FB marketplace? You can flag users for stuff like this. Not fool proof but if a few people do it may prevent him listing more stuff.

This thread has to be peak STW handwringing. I think you must get points or something if you're the first to spot a microaggression in an otherwise reasonable thread. Plus points too for using a gender neutral pronoun when pointing out the microagression.

Absolutely no where have said it’s Essel’s fault. But, he’s come on here named the person and then quote’s their spelling mistakes.

for a prroppa Northumbrrian, I can’t believe ypur’e so soft in the head.

Classy.

Come on Drac, EGF quoted their message and presenting the course of events - that’s all.

Where did he name him? How do we know he’s actually dyslexic, because the guy says he is? We’re taking him at his word even though he’s clearly a thief? Just seems like he’s badly educated and utterly shit at spelling which is an entirely different thing to dyslexia.

In the original post and then placed a Facebook link too.

Just seems like he’s badly educated and utterly shit at spelling which is an entirely different thing to dyslexia.

Oh dear! That’s what I was told too. Turns out my parents and I were right.

I understand dyslexia Drac and this just doesn’t seem like it. Happy you were diagnosed. Mention it much to random strangers on Facebook when scamming them? Why are you defending the guy? He deserves outing so other people don’t fall for his shit.

Looks very like dyslexia to me.

Why are you defending the guy? He deserves outing so other people don’t fall for his shit.

I haven’t. We have one version of a story, we’ve been here before where people post details of the other party. It has turned into a witch hunt against them with members from here attacking them. I’ve already deleted one post of someone suggesting that a few do just that.

I may have got Essel’s post wrong, I didn’t see the need to reuse the spelling of canals but yes the sale is dodgy.

He didn’t reuse he copy/pasted the guys text. You expect him to edit it before doing so? Normally agree with 99% of your posts but think you’re way wrong on this one. I’ll leave it there as don’t want this to devolve in to an argument.

He didn’t reuse he copy/pasted the guys text.

Well he did

Then he sent a voice clip explaining how he’d ended up in the ‘canell’.

He may have meant no harm but it was just unnecessary.

I was hearing last night of a friend's daughter who's sold her house. Fraudsters somehow got between her and the solicitors and as a result the money was paid into the wrong account and is now gone.

How dare, you, you unfeeling brute, those scammers might have verucas!

He must have hit that canal at some speed to break a shoulder and damage a hip. Wrecked two phones too.
Odd, I thought only drug dealers carried multiple phones 😕

Just as well he has a champion on here 🙂

*Update*

Still no goods, however he’s since listed a Cannondale singlespeeder & a piece of Chinese porcelain. I asked If I could have that instead of the pedals but no reply, so I even asked if he’d just let me know if he’d robbed me so I could look for some more pedals as I don’t want to buy some more then have his turn up, no reply. So I tried asking (politely) for a response of some sort but it appears he’s blocked my messages.
Ahh well, back to work tomorrow for £9 an hour.

You monster Essel! He’s just a poor dyslexic fella and this is clearly all your fault or something

never attribute to malice that which is adequately explained by stupidity

To try to clear the garage during our latest lockdown, I've been listing various bits and pieces as free to collector on Gumtree and Marketplace. If ever there was an illustration that some people are just bumbling along, unable to even manage an incredibly simple task/interaction, then this has been it.

I used to work with a bloke a bit like that, he was great fun and everyone loved him, but his life just seemed a continuous stream of gaffes and ****-ups that would leave you with your head in your hands. He once melted the dashboard of his new company car by buying a knockoff airfreshener from the market and clipping it (horizontally) to the airvent on top of the dash. The vial of perfume leaked, and then the hot sun through the windscreen caused it to react with the rubber of the dash, melting a 20cm wide hole in it and completely buggering the instrument cluster underneath.

You look at that one thing in isolation - and that's just bad luck right? Could have happened to anyone. But that kind of thing happened to him all the time. Some people do genuinely manage to lose their phone every couple of months, but knowing this, somehow can't organize themselves to back the thing up, or have a spare.

I've just come to accept that some people do really live their lives like this: just lurching from one calamity to another - fall in a canal one day, bike stolen the next, then pass out for a day after trying to treat tooth ache with bottle of whiskey instead of neurofen.

You now have his bank account details.

Set up multiple standing orders for tiny amounts of money. 12p here, 7p there.

At least you'll feel like you're looking after him.

You monster Essel! He’s just a poor dyslexic fella and this is clearly all your fault or something

I think it was the fact that the OP chose to highlight the 'perp's' apparent Dyslexia and possible other issues, in order to demonise them, that Drac was rightfully critical of. I must say, such behaviour lost any sympathy from me too. Of course, it could be scam. But the OP still actively chose to use a person's apparent disability as a way of demeaning them. Which is pretty shitty in my book.

Ahh well, back to work tomorrow for £9 an hour.

Then it'll only take you a couple of hours to recoup your losses, then.

^^^^^^
Ah, the Therese Coffey solution.
It's bad enough in itself to be using her logic to be honest but it's also completely untrue.
The OP says he earns £9 per hour. A couple of hours would give him £18 which is less than he paid for the pedals. Only by £1 admittedly. But unless the OP has an arrangement with Therese's pal Rishi, he'll have to pay tax and NI on that. He's also have to pay to get to work presumably. He'll also have to pay other associated costs of working. Also, he may not be able to pick up extra work for any number of reasons.
The seller may or may not be dyslexic and he shouldn't be mocked for it (I'm not entirely sure he was btw but that's by the by) but one thing I am pretty certain of is that is that the seller is a scumbag. And the OP has my full sympathies.

Ah, the Therese Coffey solution.
It’s bad enough in itself to be using her logic to be honest but it’s also completely untrue.
The OP says he earns £9 per hour. A couple of hours would give him £18 which is less than he paid for the pedals. Only by £1 admittedly. But unless the OP has an arrangement with Therese’s pal Rishi, he’ll have to pay tax and NI on that. He’s also have to pay to get to work presumably. He’ll also have to pay other associated costs of working. Also, he may not be able to pick up extra work for any number of reasons.

Jesus Christ. Slow day?

one thing I am pretty certain of is that is that the seller is a scumbag

And how do you work that out, based on scant, one-sided information? The Judge Dredd solution...

Not entirely sure what you mean by JC and slow day?
As for the conclusion I have reached, well firstly I have said I am only "pretty certain" but my pretty certain conclusion was based on the balance of probabilities.

I'd hazard a guess that the few on this thread trying to defend a clear scammer (he's taken someone's money for something he said he was selling, not sent it and is now ignoring messages - clear as day he's scamming) were likely the same ones on the Jimmy Savile RIP thread (that was linked on another thread about Randy Andy) who were crawling up his deceased backside and calling him a 'true gent' etc.

But the OP still actively chose to use a person’s apparent disability as a way of demeaning them.

I did highlight one word out of the whole text, but not to demenour the guy, if I was going to do that I'd have highlighted each spelling/grammar mistake.
If I hadn't, would that make me the good guy for everyone & him the bad one, or would you still have sympathy for the robbing barstard?
Any idea how many people in jail for robbery are dyslexic? (he spelled that word right)
Thousands. Still robbers though.

You now have his bank account details.

Set up multiple standing orders for tiny amounts of money. 12p here, 7p there.

At least you’ll feel like you’re looking after him.

That's a thought....

Not entirely sure what you mean by JC and slow day?

That you had the time to go to such lengths of explaining the intricacies of the taxation system...

my pretty certain conclusion was based on the balance of probabilities.

And your own prejudices. I'm glad our justice system doesn't work on mere 'balance of probabilities', and prejudices...

I did highlight one word out of the whole text, but not to demenour the guy, if I was going to do that I’d have highlighted each spelling/grammar mistake.
If I hadn’t, would that make me the good guy for everyone & him the bad one, or would you still have sympathy for the robbing barstard?

A bit like what I've just done? Fact is you did attempt to use his apparent disability to demean him. There was no need whatsoever to draw attention to his apparent inability to spell etc. Yet you felt you had to. You made that choice, and it was criticised.

Any idea how many people in jail for robbery are dyslexic? (he spelled that word right)
Thousands. Still robbers though.

Any idea how many sufferers of Dyslexia struggle educationally, don't receive the support they should, and end up in shitty circumstances which often put them at risk of criminalisation? Thousands. Still Human Beings though. Same as you and me.

All Drac was doing was highlighting how shitty it is to mock someone's apparent disability. And there was a pile on. And then we have this:

I’d hazard a guess that the few on this thread trying to defend a clear scammer (he’s taken someone’s money for something he said he was selling, not sent it and is now ignoring messages – clear as day he’s scamming) were likely the same ones on the Jimmy Savile RIP thread (that was linked on another thread about Randy Andy) who were crawling up his deceased backside and calling him a ‘true gent’ etc.

Wow.

I said he has to pay tax and NI. Not sure how that qualifies as explaining the intricacies of the taxation system but hey ho.
My own prejudices? Now who is being judgmental? I'm not dismissing how challenging it must be to be dyslexic. I'm not thinking a person with dyslexia is any less of a person than one who is not dyslexic. I actually can't believe I have just had to type that.
I just have empathy for the OP. Perhaps you might like to think about extending some empathy to him too.
As for the so-called justice system, if you think it's there to dispense justice, then more fool you.

That you had the time to go to such lengths of explaining the intricacies of the taxation system…

I know, right? What's the world coming to when someone takes a couple of minutes to pull you up on your trite, dismissive and plain incorrect one-liner.

I’d hazard a guess that the few on this thread trying to defend a clear scammer (he’s taken someone’s money for something he said he was selling, not sent it and is now ignoring messages – clear as day he’s scamming) were likely the same ones on the Jimmy Savile RIP thread (that was linked on another thread about Randy Andy) who were crawling up his deceased backside and calling him a ‘true gent’ etc.

One of the most incredible paragraphs to grace a STW thread in quite some time.

I said he has to pay tax and NI. Not sure how that qualifies as explaining the intricacies of the taxation system but hey ho.

Does it really matter? Would you have preferred it if I'd said '2 hours 30 minutes', or something, instead of a 'couple' (ie, an arbitrary amount of time, not strictly specified) of hours? I apologise for not being exact on the amount of time needed to earn £19. In my defence, I don't know how many hours the OP works, or their total yearly income (which if beneath a certain threshold, wouldn't qualify for income tax anyway), so I couldn't form an informed guess as to exactly how much time it would take for them to earn £19. If you can, based on the information available, then crack on. If you consider that a good use of your own time, that is.

My own prejudices? Now who is being judgmental?

You were basing your judgment on nothing more than scant, one-sided information, and personal opinion. That is the very definition of being 'judgmental'.

I just have empathy for the OP. Perhaps you might like to think about extending some empathy to him too.

I have some empathy for the OP. It's never nice to lose something unjustly. I also however have some empathy for the 'accused', but then only based on a suggestion they may be Dyslexic, and that from even the scant, one-sided information given, doesn't sound like it's a particularly well-organised 'crime', if it indeed even is (we haven't seen any court judgement or otherwise, which might inform us an actual crime has indeed taken place, only that payment is as such, 'delayed'). Perhaps I just have a little more empathy than some others on there, is all. Perhaps I'm a 'bleeding heart'. I'll wear that as a badge of honour.

"You were basing your judgment on nothing more than scant, one-sided information, and personal opinion. That is the very definition of being ‘judgmental’."

In your own words: "Does it really matter?"
If it actually mattered, if it was going to have any effect on the 'seller', I would have reserved judgment. As it was, I saw a post on a biking website from a familiar contributor and I expressed sympathy for him.
If it mattered, I may indeed have sympathy for the 'seller' but in this context, it really doesn't.

As for the amount of money involved and how much time it would take him to earn that back, the whole argument is irrelevant. The OP had that money. Now it is gone. He cannot ever truly make up that loss. And nor should he have to.

You seem to like to question my use of time, I notice you keep replying, you might want to think about how you use your time.

Lol! Ok. 😀

Send me your paypal and i'll send you what you've lost.

This thread is ace. I know some of you are paragons of absolute virtue and have never offended a soul. Look for the best in everything and everyone is a decent, honest human being at heart if only given the chance. Continue lying to yourselves or building your internet persona, whichever applies here.

Jesus there really are some throbbers on here! Bloke gets robbed and the virtue signalers turn it up to 11 almost immediately!

£19 loss is probably a drop in the ocean to huge swathes of the stw elite, but is a real kick in the teeth for some people.

I take it we've got no firm evidence that the chap is actually dyslexic either?

virtue signalers

Hi Donnie.