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During an idle browse of the web at lunch, I quite fancied a Deviate Highlander 140.

However there was a feeling that I have seen this before:

Yup, the venerable GT RTS! If they had only had an idler wheel they would of been 28 years ahead of themselves.
Although the potential resomod of a 1994 GT RTS with long slack and low sound great, i worry imay just of gone mad.
Bye.

I see the similarity. Both are bikes with no wheels. Beyond that however...

I think the op is pointing out that the linkage driving the rear shock is very similar.
I think the op is pointing out that the linkage driving the rear shock is very similar.
The new one is about a foot shorter and pivots around the BB, rather than behind it but close enough, yeah.
Deviate even nod to the GT RTS in this little piece about the history and benefits of high pivots:
https://www.deviatecycles.com/high-pivot-mtb
I think the main issue with an idler BITD was incorporating the triple chainset... YMMV, natch.
What's the expression? Can't see the linkage for the frames? Now seems blindingly obvious doh.
The Guide is much closer to the RTS in fairness, if you discount the idler, frame material, drivetrain etc
The other problem (apart from pedal kickback) with the RTS was that as soon as you pedalled, or braked, the suspension stiffened up pretty severely. They only really worked DH if you were sat down and not touching the brakes (at all)
But what did we know back then?
Is that bottom linkage on the Deviate not really vulnerable to rocks?
Not IME. It’s much less pronounced when sagged too.
Looks like a Trek obvs.
Not IME. It’s much less pronounced when sagged too.
I was trying to work out how that linkage worked. It wasn't until I watched the short video in this link that I realised there's a whole other pivot concentric with the BB. Neat. Ironically (given the thread title), that's not something I've seen before.
https://www.pinkbike.com/news/review-deviate-highlander-there-can-only-be-one.html