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Queuing towards the end of a road to go straight over. About 100 yards from the end it divides into two lanes: one to carry straight on and the other to turn left. There's a steady stream of cars driving with two wheels on the pavement at a relatively high speed in order to pass the queueing traffic and turn left.

There are pedestrians on the pavement and a cycle lane at the side of the road.

Is this dangerous driving, or am I being a bit precious about it? The pavement is ripped to pieces so it's happening on a daily basis but with no traffic police other than the speed camera vans is there any point reporting it to anyone? And who do you report it to? Council? Police? 101?


 
Posted : 14/02/2019 5:23 pm
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Standard bad driving yes 🙁


 
Posted : 14/02/2019 5:27 pm
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Yes I'd say so. I don't think you are allowed to mount the pavement for any reason...even parking with half the car on the pavement is not allowed even though a blind eye is turned.

What needs to happen is the junction re-designed and re-modelled to prevent the bottleneck and improve the flow of traffic, but that would mean spending money on the roads.

No doubt nothing will be done till someone is killed or injured.


 
Posted : 14/02/2019 5:31 pm
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with no traffic police

This is your problem. I am seeing a rapid decline in any sort of discipline. The M25 is full of people sticking to their favourite lane while vigilantes (like me) deliberately undertake. Fog lights? I've paid for them so I'm using them. And parking? Just drive right up on the pavement, or churn up that bit of grass. Don't get me started ... oh, you have already. But yes, bad driving. Bring back the coppers. Everybody is so busy worrying about that B..... thing that they've forgotten the other legacy of our gumment - austerity cuts. It's like Mad Max out there.


 
Posted : 14/02/2019 5:35 pm
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Well if nobody reports it then the police will have to happen upon it.


 
Posted : 14/02/2019 5:46 pm
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The M25 is full of people sticking to their favourite lane while vigilantes (like me) deliberately undertake.

Also available on other motorways.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/av/uk-england-stoke-staffordshire-47203876/driver-reported-for-middle-lane-hogging-in-cannock

If you watch that one right to the end, you'll see the car go to lane 3 (which is presumably where it was previously).


 
Posted : 14/02/2019 6:00 pm
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Well if nobody reports it then the police will have to happen upon it.

Very much the case - we face onto a main road with a 40 limit that suffers occasionally from boy racers and the only time we ever see the police checking speeds is after several people have made complaints (disclaimer: this might be a Durham thing as we live in one of the areas without any fixed speed cameras).


 
Posted : 14/02/2019 6:57 pm
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As the saying goes, 'keep death off the roads, drive on the path'.


 
Posted : 14/02/2019 7:06 pm
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report it(not to the police), they will install a bollard


 
Posted : 14/02/2019 7:26 pm
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Or just install a "bollard" of your own.


 
Posted : 14/02/2019 7:45 pm
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Sounds like standard driving in the South so probably between quite dangerous and utterly moronic.

+1 for people having no pigging clue what lane to be in. The M27 is shocking but it's got nothing on the M25 on a weekend.


 
Posted : 14/02/2019 10:22 pm
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Yes it's selfish driving. It's also crap road design. Or maybe a failure to adapt the roads to increased traffic. You could stick a copper there to ticket everyone who does it and use the money to pay for a longer turn lane.


 
Posted : 15/02/2019 12:00 am
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Stand on the pavement with a large hammer and remove the wing mirrors of the cars as they come past. At some point they'll stop driving on the pavement.. o the pile of wing mirrors will be so large it will stop them


 
Posted : 15/02/2019 12:23 am
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Yes, driving on the pavement is crap driving.
I refuse to do it. I've had Land Rover Discos come at me after forcing their way past oncoming traffic (parked cars on the opposite side from me) expecting me to bump up the pavement so they can get past. I just shrugged my shoulders, applied the handbrake and waited for them to sort their shit out. I took them a while!
I see it on the roads all the time, usually because someone can't wait.


 
Posted : 15/02/2019 9:48 am
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Get a plastic cone. Turn upside down and fill with concrete. When set, place upright again on edge of pavement. Wait for the nudge nudge crunch 😁


 
Posted : 15/02/2019 9:55 am
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We had something similar near us with drivers on the pavement, at school drop off time, cutting inside the school buses coming in the opposite direction. A PC was dispatched one morning to observe. She nearly got squashed by a driver after a few minutes. We have bollards now.


 
Posted : 15/02/2019 1:35 pm
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Is very common driving in the rush hour in West London as is just forcing yourself into the road from a side road even in moving traffic. I used to refuse to do it though as it is bad driving.


 
Posted : 15/02/2019 2:20 pm
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You need to ask if it’s crap driving when motorists drive on the pavement?

I’ve had it happen to me twice as a pedestrian on a piece of pavement here in Swansea. Both cars expected me to step out of the way, which I didn’t. Both times I opened the passenger door, explained vigorously that it was a pavement, so only for pedestrians, and left the door open. Can’t really do much more than inconvenience them so much that they won’t do it in future.


 
Posted : 15/02/2019 2:49 pm
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There's a similar section of road near me that I would drive down on the (rare) occasions that I drove to work. Sort of 1.9 car widths before it opened up into two proper lanes, one turning right, one going straight on. Most traffic would be going right (towards the motorway) so anyone wanting to go straight on would just drive half on/half off the pavement to bypass the queue of right-turning cars.

The council put bollards in after a while. Police won't do anything unless someone actually dies, they'll just tell you to report to the council (who are the ones responsible for managing the roads and pavements).


 
Posted : 15/02/2019 7:14 pm
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No. This crap is driving:

Crap


 
Posted : 15/02/2019 8:22 pm
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Surely strategically placed cameras like they have watching some bus lanes,issuing fines ,points and eventually bans could remedy bad driving at many hotspots?


 
Posted : 15/02/2019 10:11 pm

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