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Thankfully the random logging out feature hasn’t been lost 🙄
Tapping on my clock at the top of my screen also works for me on Android! Mind blown.
Edit to add: but from a user perspective I shouldn't need to know a workaround to easily navigate the site
yeah, this! It's the unnecessary bold-ing.Good grief, it’s had some weird effect on my vision that makes it look like I’ve the wrong contact lense prescription in each eye. Maybe it’s the font?
Also need to do [I]way[/I] more scrolling on the main page now.
but basically, this 😃I’m scared. Make it stop.
A brief history of stw forums:
"waah waah this forum is rubbish we need a new forum"
New forum arrives
"waah waah this forum is rubbish we want the old one back"
And repeat.
I like it. One bit of feedback, when I first launched it, it looked weird, but then I realised that my device (iOS, safari) font scaling was set at 125% which seemed to break the layout a bit. I reset it to default and it works fine again. Not sure you can do anything about that though.
Happily though I think it is more legible now, so not really needing to up my font size.
You only see about 5 topics on a phone screen now, instead of 10—15. Does it add something to users to know who updated a thread and when? Makes it slower to scan read for threads of interest. I'd rather more topics per page.
Maybe it’s the font?
Screen font on my iMac feels x1 weight too heavy. Not quite anti-aliasing properly.
The font in the reply box is spot on - can we use that?
Font looks fine on my iPhone.
You only see about 5 topics on a phone screen now, instead of 10—15.
Yeah, the Overview page does look very 'busy' on a mobile.
Why are there different icon sizes for the same thing?
Not a fan of the rapid scrolling down to the bottom of the thread from the top when you post something.
I wonder if whenever there's a site update the STW crew click 'upload' then scarper off to the pub, get bladdered and only view the comments the day after! 🙂
Why can some posts be reported and others can't?
Works nicely on iPhone. I like it. Crisp-looking.
Fiddling while Rome burns? Forum link from main burger menu far too low on list, given it's the main traffic generator and arguably Singletrack's reason for existence.
Will this advert ever be truly dynamic and not be bigger than the forum itself?
I’m with Kayak23 needs a back to top button or menu at the bottom to get back to relevant forum front page
I might have misunderstood but when I tap the top of the browser window-whoosh! Up to the top of the page and all the navigation bits
Why can some posts be reported and others can’t?
That was always the case, just means it's already been reported by someone else.
That was always the case, just means it’s already been reported by someone else
Thanks, shows how much notice I take.
With double lines it's much harder to quickly scan the thread titles because you have to declutter it in your mind and as a direct result less threads can fit on one page. Going back to single lines would be much more preferable on desktop.
Seems clearer and slightly easier to navigate on my desktop PC, nothing to complain about here.
I'm sure I'll find something to whinge about given a bit more time though.
I would love it if the blue banner at the top included a "Classifieds" link too.
Other than that, quite liking it overall.
Is this new format kind of like one of the previous versions? I can't remember but wasn't there an old version over two lines that got replaced by a single line?
A brief history of stw forums:
“waah waah this forum is rubbish we need a new forum”
New forum arrives
“waah waah this forum is rubbisherer than before, we want the old one back”
And repeat.
Ftfy
With double lines it’s much harder to quickly scan the thread titles because you have to declutter it in your mind and as a direct result less threads can fit on one page. Going back to single lines would be much more preferable on desktop.
I agree. I'm at work so haven't seen it on desktop, but visually before it was simple and uncluttered. Really quite pleasant compared to just about any other forum I've seen.
Now, it's cluttered, messy and visually jarring, and that's without the reduced ease of navigation. Sorry, but yeah. Not one for those who are visually-led.
The magazine I've always thought is beautiful visually. Such a nice contemporary feel to it and a coherent design.
The forum is really now the complete opposite to that.
The forum search function seems to have disappeared? The search at the top of the page just searches magazine content - There's a magazine?
I wonder if whenever there’s a site update the STW crew click ‘upload’ then scarper off to the pub, get bladdered and only view the comments the day after! 🙂
That's what I would be doing. With a developers hat on I feel the pain whenever anything new is released, even when it isn't my own
As said earlier, I'll be used to it by tomorrow
The forum search function seems to have disappeared? The search at the top of the page just searches magazine content – There’s a magazine?
It's there if you're viewing the chat or bike section, but not if you're viewing the 'overview' - just a bug I'd imagine.
Likey.
Looks good to me 👍
how do you click to the most recent post on a thread ?
I quite like it but can't seem to find a way to get to the latest post in a thread, only the latest page. What am I missing?
Now, it’s cluttered, messy and visually jarring, and that’s without the reduced ease of navigation. Sorry, but yeah. Not one for those who are visually-led.
Just had a peek on mobile.
It's a bit on the busy side. I'd see what I could simplify there if I was the product manager/UX designer/dev team.
Why though … why … no likey at all….
I bet this is punishment for those of us that one stump up.
Probs premier have gold plating and wall to wall carpeting.
because you have to declutter it in your mind
That, my friend, is known in the web design game as cognitive load, and there is definitely a lot of it on the mobile version.
I quite like it but can’t seem to find a way to get to the latest post in a thread, only the latest page. What am I missing?
That button's been missing since the last big change, hasn't it?
Ow. My eyes.
Seriously, the new dark theme is ridiculously straining. No idea why but it's like the white brightness has been bumped up to 11. Was it designed by Pinbacker?
With double lines it’s much harder to quickly scan the thread titles because you have to declutter it in your mind and as a direct result less threads can fit on one page. Going back to single lines would be much more preferable on desktop.
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^This. Seeing old vs new side by side... bah to change.
good shout! Had a look and there's a "classic" toggle in the Members' section. Phew!!I bet this is punishment for those of us that one stump up.
Probs premier have gold plating and wall to wall carpeting.
Hmmm. This is not a pleasant experience on a mobile so far. The overview is just too busy as has been said above.
I was considering resubscribing, but now can someone from STW assure it will get better before I part with money please?!
how do you click to the most recent post on a thread ?
Yeah that.
It were better before lad. Grindingly slow to load on my ten year old iMac, though that may be my 2Mb max countryfile sized connection.
If I wait for the main forum page to load the links dont work. they only work if clicked when its loading
Tapping on my clock at the top of my screen also works for me on Android! Mind blown.
@Dawson: are you on a new-ish phone or version of Android? I'm on a four year old Samsung (Android 9) and tapping the clock only opens a notification panel for me...
The clock tapping doesn't work for me either on a pixel 6 running Android 13.
Yeah not liking appearance on iPhone, real struggle to make out topic titles as kinda lost amidst all the other topic content like OP etc.
It’s a bit on the busy side. I’d see what I could simplify there if I was the product manager/UX designer/dev team.
I think my UX Designer would have topped herself by now after such an onslaught of negative feedback!
Change....I just dont like change; its hard enough when they move stuff in supermarkets, I cant take this as well
Tbf I quite like it
This actually doesn’t look too bad to me.
Have they fixed the site search?
It's disgusting, please change it back.
If I wanted to endlessly scroll, I'd browse Facebook:-(
Fugly!
Hmmm, so I think it's well intentioned but on the forum each topic now takes up the space of three on the old forum.
I'm sure I'll grow to accept it, but not sure I like it.
Can the
News Review Feature Magazine Podcast Video Classic Ride More Join Us Buy Forum Classifieds
be justified center under Singletrack
and as many have said above, the forum topics list has too much info
🙂
It's marvellous, I still can't read the thread about fly tipping.
& you want me to pay?
Doesn't use screen width efficiently on a monitor - looks optimised for mobile in portrait format.
Seems alright to me.
Is the browser back function not working (when going back to the Chat/Bike page from a thread) a feature, a bug or a browser setup issue?
I like it 👍.
I like it! 👍
Works for me and is clean and clear View on samsung s21. So long as it doesn't log in me out everything I use it I don't mind
How do you logout?
I like it 👍.
Really interested to know how you navigate in and out of threads across multiple pages and back to overview and still say that. 🤔
You know when you pull into a parking space, come to a stop and the instant you do the car next to you starts reversing and you freak out and momentarily think you're still on the move?
It's like that when you post a reply now. 😂
Proper rubbish. I nearly subscribed yesterday.
Might have to bow out of this mess for while.
Got a PayPal donation button sorted yet ?
Like Button, Avatar ..........drifting away.
See you around guys.
Where's the forum search gone?
Sorry but it’s awful
Seems alright to me, on mobile at least. It isn't the paradigm shift I was expecting.
I'm most astonished at how many people don't know how to use a Web browser in 2022.
love the time limit on all links and options .... f5 and it's race the page loading when all links die, I'm lucky to have shit web connection otherwize it would be unusable. At the moment it's just a pain in the arse.
I think it's much better. I like that you can now see who has started a topic when browsing on a phone so it's easy to see which threads never to click 🙂
I’m most astonished at how many people don’t know how to use a Web browser in 2022.
Not as astonished as I am by how many people don't know how to mend a puncture 🙂
I’m most astonished at how many people don’t know how to use a Web browser in 2022.
Not seen any examples of that. What do you mean specifically?
Back forward up down refresh etc, this is all core browser functionality. You want to open pages and keep the index handy, just right click or long press and open in a new tab. Pulling down at the top of a page (mobile) or hitting F5 (desktop) will reload the page. And all of this stuff is also in menus.
Yes, a lot of the requests here would improve the UX of course, but they aren't necessary.
Click with mouse wheel to open in a new tab
Yes, a lot of the requests here would improve the UX of course, but they aren’t necessary.
Yes well as you've said, these are all things that would improve the user experience and the point is we had a lot of them before so why get rid?
Much of that browser stuff people can do of course, it's just that it's annoying as hell, and doubly so when that functionality existed this morning and worked well.
Back button isn't the same as overview button as I've said previously. Also, functionality seems to differ a lot across devices. Many on android can seem to hit the clock and go to the top of the page, but many can't, including me.
But yeah, of course all of these things can be done in some way, but why remove functionality in the first place?
Doesn't make sense.
Pulling down at the top of a page (mobile) or hitting F5 (desktop) will reload the page. And all of this stuff is also in menus.
Yes I know, but to pull down the page or get to the menus, I need to be at the top of the page. I'm here at the bottom, at the end of the thread. Why not a simple button or even the menu that appeared before with a slight scroll?
If I have to scroll back to the top anyway then I may as well just hit overview instead of pulling down. But again, why is it better to have to keep scrolling back to the top?
The Tech bods making a list of bugs and feedback.
Still no "Jump to first new post" option. It's basic forum functionality, you'd think one of the three devs would have decided to put it in.
But yeah, of course all of these things can be done in some way, but why remove functionality in the first place?
Doesn’t make sense.
You could be describing Google Wallet.
The Tech bods making a list of bugs and feedback.
I'd best mention it here too then... The "Are you sure you wanted to do that" bug when using Chrome, which has been around forever, seems to have been fixed.
@kayak23 it seems that the overview page auto-refreshes when you go back to it. I think this is a change they made a few months back, but I've never been bothered to test it until now. I'm on Android 9 on a 4 year old Xperia Compact.
@kayak23 it seems that the overview page auto-refreshes when you go back to it.
Well, you may not want it to refresh though. That's why you hit back after all, because it takes you to where you were in history.
I've used the back button before when I've typed a reply and then the site has crashed. Often you'll still have the text you wrote waiting there. It would suck if things refreshed automatically and you lost what was there before you hit 'enter' as that isn't what back is.😂
Besides, if you've read every page of a multiple page thread, hitting back just takes you through those pages again, backwards.
I'm with you on the multi-page thread thing, but I thought your objection was the extra actions required to get an up-to-date overview? Obviously misunderstood. I agree that the 'back to top' followed by 'overview' that we lost in the refresh before this was the simplest and easiest way to do this, and I still miss it.