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Because it's nasty
AAAH!
WHAT DID YOU DO?!
I was huffing at them doing maintenance at lunch time but, ooh looks fancy!
Arghhhhhhhhh - its ugly and horrible
Wow, that didn't take long... 🤣
I'm liking the shiny new look!
Shame it seems to be the same software underneath, I'm sure there's loads of improvements STW would like to make but can't - a new lick of paint is welcome though 👍
I'm scared. Make it stop.
Too many lines and too much text on the forum list. It makes it much too hard to scan.
The thread pages are ok though.
Is it aimed at making it more phone friendly or something? Looks as ugly as hell on my PC.
Horrible.
Nav bar has TWO Video headers - both with same content - tut tut
It's Moe Szylak in forum guise...
Much more legible to be fair. Interesting to see if there are any subtleties I haven't noticed.
Thought it was just me.
Looks a bit busy, and doesnt fit a wide screen monitor. 1/2 my screen is just blank grey (maybe thats where all the ads will start appearing ?)
Impressed there wasnt any down time though
Edit: just checked on my iphone, looks way to busy and not easy to see thread titles etc.
STW has looked unique for years (good IMO) this makes it look a bit like any other forum
Ooft. Forum overview page reads more like a screenshot from Lings Cars. Brutal.
No back to the top button or menu pop out to get back to front page.
Ooft. Forum overview page reads more like a screenshot from Lings Cars. Brutal.
Nothing on the internet since 1998 is like the Lings website. But that's the charm...
I'll be used to it by this time tomorrow
I really ****ing like it. Well not really that much, but figured I’d try some user testing there
Edit: I assume hitting the wee person icon at the top right should take me to a profile page? Isnae working for me if that’s the case, does nothing
Edit 2: actually works from the higher levels but not within threads
fine for me on my phone, can now see more thread details rather than just the title.
I dont think it matters what happens to the forum folk will bitch about it .... unless it's a like button!
Yes no never always maybe sometimes.
Dislike the font changes.
Seems faster.
A bit more contrast would be nice - grey on grey on grey is a bit grey! 🙂
TBF, it was posted in the pinned story up top that we'd be getting the painters in...
We have plans.
The best way to ensure sustainability is to adapt and there are changes on the way. First of all, there’s a new look to the website coming. The decorators are in and in the next few weeks we will be launching the new site theme. We hope you are going to like it – it will organise our content better and make it easier to find stuff.
Still, change is change and some can't deal with that 🤣
As regards Android/Chrome..
Font seems bigger - good for my aging eyesight.
Fewer posts on index page but more detail on each.
Edit/Report/Reply buttons are thin black text in dark mode and very difficult to see.
We could still do with a "show me unread posts on this thread" button.
Fine by me.
Have we finally gone metric or is this the return to imperial?
Unexpected change(vague mind something mentioned), seems alright, take a bit getting used to, first impression is it feels more robust, which is a good thing.
yay - we can see who has most recently posted in a thread, from the forum homepage!
Have we finally gone metric or is this the return to imperial?
I'm fairly sure we're still pre-decimalisation.
Nice, I like!
Perhaps it is due to my new pc monitor? LOL!
P/s: oh yes I can see the login but how to logout?
Oh ffs. Even bloody harder to get back to overview.
Now we haven't even got a hamburger menu to return to it.
We used to have a button right at the bottom of the last post, but I understand that had to go as it was too easy.
Not wanting to be negative, but man, this is going backwards. 😐
I swear every new look we have gets rid of the ability to navigate easily back to overview. What have you got against it? 😂
Seriously, when we get to the bottom of a long page of posts, what then?
Hitting the back button doesn't refresh the posts on overview, and if you've gone through 5 pages, back through them all you go!
Scrolling all the way back up through all the posts on a page again to find a button on every single thread is just dire. 🙄
It does feel more 'snappy', does that mean we've got 2 hamsters Vs 1 now? Or the 1 has been fed some performance enhancing drugs...
unless it’s a like button!
I'm sure I recall Mark saying we were promised a 'like' button.
Gmail has had a revamp today too - not sure I can cope with so much change in one day.
I need a lie down!
I think it is very creative to run a forum on an excel spreadsheet.
Liking the site homepage - both on iPhone and computer.
Forum though... argh, especially on the mobile. Nowhere near as easy to identify the thread titles with the info for each thread split across a couple of lines. Hopefully I'll get used to it.
Oh ffs. Even bloody harder to get back to overview.
Swipe left.
Fine by me, no glitches so far. A bit retro with boxes around threads, it just needs the boxes to be coloured pink and blue to be properly retro. It's faster than the old version was last night (not difficult).
I'm not usually one to moan about STW, given that (for cheapskates like me) this shizzle is free, but that thread overview page is truly horrible to behold - both uglier and harder to actually see the thread titles. Looks like a forum from 20 years ago!
What fresh new hell is this madness!
I'm keeping the screenshot of old stw on my iPad, when I'm feeling confused and sad I'll stare at it wistfully.
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Oh ffs. Even bloody harder to get back to overview.
Swipe left.
No. I know how the back button works. That's not the same thing.
The overview page doesn't refresh if you simply go back.
And what if you've gone through 5 pages of posts?
Did we just go back in time to the origins of internet forums??!!
Swipe left.
No no no, it only works if you swipe a pentangle shape, then left.
Looks like a forum from 20 years ago!
It's a webpage from the 90s
I’ll be used to it by this time tomorrow
This. Two days from now, no-one will remember what it looked like before. 🙂
I'm with Kayak23 needs a back to top button or menu at the bottom to get back to relevant forum front page. It's doing my head in at the moment. I'll probably end up doing some work now!!
freshness - yay !
Hmmm not sure yet.
still no direct link to classifieds on mobile site.
Needs some kind of floating menu to get back to Overview. Getting to the bottom of a thread and then having to scroll back up to the top of the screen is very annoying
Oh dear.
Doesn't work on Mozilla, links broken. Forum main page is now a mess. Font is nice though.
ooh that's nice, we can have avators now 😀
Not sure what's going on with the font but it looks like the cleartype settings are all messed up.
Yeah we could do with a few basics like a button to take you to the oldest unread post, or to the newest post. Or notifications of replies, and of course a like/thanks button.
But that's big software changes, not exactly just a new coat of paint.
If the forum could get anywhere near the polished level and features of the TrainerRoad forum, I'd be very very happy - but then I also quite like the old-fashionedness, and simpleness of this place...
Have we morphed into Bike Magic?
All this new gubbins and still no button to take you to the last post on the thread
Displaying who was the last poster on a thread has got to be a step in the right direction 👍
It's a bit of a shock, but then all change is.
I miss the menu appearing as soon as you scrolled up a bit. I'm sure it did that an hour ago, now you need to scroll to the top of the page.
The Reply / Report links are very hard to read being black on a dark grey if you're on the dark theme.
Otherwise I quite like it.
I’m with Kayak23 needs a back to top button or menu at the bottom to get back to relevant forum front page.
Swipe left on Android.
Right-Click/Back with mouse
Alt-Left Arrow with keyboard
I'm glad the Singletrack header doesn't move down the page anymore. It means people at work can't see what I'm reading all day. Still can't make dark mode work on a PC.
Way too much info on the phone screen. All I need is thread titles.
Ummm. Not sure yet. Let’s see if it grows on me
Well, I don't know what a lot of you are seeing but it looks really nice on both my work desktop & Moto phone. Very easy on the eye to scan through and read.
I like the way the banner at the top disappears as you scroll down the screen too, unlike the old one that was permanently stuck there taking up a 1/4 of the screen for no purpose.
Was there ever a 'back to top' option?
Functionality seems the same to me.
Yup, like that I can see who started a thread and who last contributed, on the forum overview page. For avoiding <those> threads, obviously.
There's an overview tab at the top for me, so no worries.
All this new gubbins and still no button to take you to the last post on the thread
Clicking the last posters name used to do that (in the olden days, before last version of forum), now it takes you to the posters profile.
Other than that - click the >> next to thread title.
I’m with Kayak23 needs a back to top button or menu at the bottom to get back to relevant forum front page.
Swipe left on Android.
Right-Click/Back with mouse
Alt-Left Arrow with keyboard
I don't think you're getting it.
The back button doesn't refresh the overview page so, even if you've been reading the thread for a day, the overview page will not have moved when you go back. You still have to tap Overview or hit refresh on your browser bar to make it refresh.
Also, if you've just read a multi page thread from start to end, the back button means you have to go through it all again, albeit backwards.
We had a button years ago at the end of the last post. It was perfect. It was improved away, and we got a hamburger menu that appears if you give the page a little scroll wiggle (on mobile) where you could navigate back.
This next improvement has taken everything away.
Hitting the back button is not the same thing. Very weird decision is all.
There’s an overview tab at the top for me, so no worries.
Yup, and to get to it on mobile, you've to do the flicky flicky finger thing, up and up and up, and it's there! Ace 😂
Also - the link to the most recent post is back (hurray!) but only if the thread has more than one page. It should be there for all, because muscle memory.
Front page is an improvement too - splitting out in to sections e.g. reviews split from news is good for me, instead of all together.
still no button to take you to the last post on the thread
Funny how mouse-clicks have become such an effort isn't it?! I stil complain about shit like this - but it does only take 2 clicks to get to the last post! Into the thread (or the >> ) and click the last poster's name. Bing bong.
1 click would be such a vast improvement! 😀
Just tried it on my mobile - and yes, having to scroll back to the top is a ball-ache!! 🙂
I mean just how hard can it really be...?
:/ Though those hamsters need a coffee break too.
Swipe left on Android.
Right-Click/Back with mouse
Alt-Left Arrow with keyboard
None of this takes you to a refreshed overview page, all you're doing is going back to something you've already seen before...
Just coming here to winge
I just need to find the right buttons to get comfy.
Argh! I'm so confused! change is scary!
Also – the link to the most recent post is back (hurray!)
Is it? Not for me
If you’re on an iPhone just tap the top of the screen where the time is to auto-scroll to the top of the page.
If you’re on an iPhone just tap the top of the screen where the time is to auto-scroll to the top of the page.
Witchcraft!!
It's also very broken in Edge ! I have to keep refreshing for anything to work, links, this message box videos....
I like it, it's familiar yet fresh😀
Change i dont mind, it'll take some getting used to but hey ho.
What did irk me was the maintenance being done at lunch time. I'd just sat down at my work desk looking forward to a catch up of the World that is Single Track, nope, not a chance. Surely dinner time on a work day is peak traffic time?
Good grief, it’s had some weird effect on my vision that makes it look like I’ve the wrong contact lense prescription in each eye. Maybe it’s the font?