[Closed] Is it possible to receate the Jaws beach/Brody shot on an iphone?

If the video recording device has a zoom feature - yes.

Without manual control over the speed of the zoom it'll be tricky, plus there'll be pixellation as you zoom in.

No idea mate, but I'd like to nominate this as question of the week.

Without manual control over the speed of the zoom it'll be tricky

Not really. You simply have to match your movements to the set speed. I could demonstrate if you really want, though not with an iPhone (and I understand it'd have to be a 7 onward for vid zoom and I don't know if it's notched).

D'ya want me to make my aluminium moka pot look as if it's just seen a dishwasher approaching or something.

You're going to need a bigger phone...

You're going to need a bigger phone...

I don't see you could without a physical, rather than digital zoom. You need to refract light.

Very good.

Its not about a Shark 😆

teasel

Without manual control over the speed of the zoom it'll be tricky

Not really. You simply have to match your movements to the set speed.

Which will be tricky if the set speed is quicker than you can move 🙄

I could demonstrate if you really want, though not with an iPhone .

Yes, please do. But with an iphone as the op requested.

rather than digital zoom

Of course, it's a bloomin' digital zoom, isn't it.

Ignore me, didn't think that through. I can still create the Brody moka pot if you want...

😉

if the set speed is quicker than you can move

That'd have to be quite rapid, then. And enough with the 'tude, dude.

You could fit the phone to a treadmill.

From what I remember of some BBC4 documentary, that shot was done by mounting the camera on a dolly and zooming out while moving the camera towards him. I think. There might have been something about adjusting the aperture size as well which is why the background 'goes all funny'*

*technical term

bokeh?

From your nonsensical ramblings, i've worked it out. and you can do it.

I am in control of the digital zoom speed. I am in control of my movement. I have an iphone gimble thing so I can keep it steady.

I've jus recreated it in the office with my colleague to a rough extent.

Thank you STW. You are gods amongst men(and women)

Prize for best answer goes to suburbanreuben though

I am in control of the digital zoom speed. I am in control of my movement.

Easy, innit.

Now do one with a moka pot...

Can it be done in post?

Pretty sure [url= https://itunes.apple.com/gb/app/pinnacle-studio-video-editing/id827186281?mt=8 ]Pinnacle Studio[/url] (for iPad or iPhone) can do zooms on video.

Maybe you could shoot it normally with you moving closer/further away as required then add the zoom in post?

Maybe you could shoot it normally with you moving closer/further away as required then add the zoom in post?

That wouldn't work if you want the background movement.

But it's done, anyway. Obviously the digital zoom makes no difference.

That wouldn't work if you want the background movement.

I thought that was basically exactly the same thing as a digital zoom (i.e. cropping and expanding the image rather than an optically zooming).

*confused*

Yeah, I was just going through that and can't see the difference, but I have the excuse of a hangover.

I reckon we should see this scene remake for assessment...

I've just recreated it in the office with my colleague to a rough extent.

OK I've just hurt my brain trying to work if that would actually get the full effect. You're going to have to post you recreation.

...with a moka pot

you know the one

Am I the only one who doesn't?

Can't see YT links.
This one I'm guessing 😆

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I got bored...

Sorry for the lack of focus - it's a right piece-of-shit camera TBH.

This one I'm guessing

No but loving the pic!

It's the bit where the shark grabs the kid on the inflatable raft/bed thing - the scene after the incident when he's sat in the deck chair and the camera zooms in.

Dolly Zoom.

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Looking at that I can't see how you can do it properly with a digital-only zoom.

A dolly shot? Not possible with an iPhone.
A big part of the move is the change of perspective as you track in and zoom out, that's why the shape of his head changes with the move. It's not the same as punching in to the shot in post.

gif makes it look like he's on a swing 🙂

Why is there a zoom shot of Hank Marvin on a beach anyway? 😐

I've been trying to recreate this shot with my iphone all morning.

Digging Roy up was hard enough but now he keeps falling off the chair.

You could fit the phone to a treadmill.

I can't see that idea taking off.

Changing the distance between camera and subject is what makes the background move relative to the subject and creating the effect. The zoom is just to keep the subject the same size even though the camera is moving closer. Doesn't matter if it's optical zoom, digital zoom, or just cropping and expanding/shrinking in post production.

I've done it with a smooth floor and an office chair. So its possible.

Colleague won't let me upload the results.

Bloody diva sharks

Same technique used in Goodfellas but a bit more subtle...

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teasel - Member

I got bored...

Sorry for the lack of focus - it's a right piece-of-shit camera TBH.

Stunning Results. I apologize unreservedly for my initial skepticism and negative attitude.

Heh

It took me as long to make that as it did for you to watch it.

It was never meant to be good, merely a continuation of my moka pot insistence earlier in the thread - the trashier the better, in fact.

You should really try to develop a sense of humour, chap. But then that wouldn't really be you being yourself, would it...

[i]I apologize unreservedly for my initial skepticism and negative attitude.[/i]

wuz serious??

and how do you receate something anyway?

DezB

wuz serious??

God no.

I doubt it. But it's hardly pleasant, either.

Pissy is how I'd describe his approach. Like he didn't like being challenged or however he perceived my initial post. That bleedin' eye roll thing conveys so much... and we all know how he likes to bicker.

🙄

See

😉

and how do you receate something anyway?

Not noticed that.

Pedant... 🙄

God or pedant? You decide.

Doesn't matter if it's optical zoom, digital zoom, or just cropping and expanding/shrinking in post productio

Wrong. It does matter, it's the angle of view change plus the change in position of the camera while maintaining the size of the subject (his face) that gives the effect. Digitally zooming or zooming in post will not give you the change of perspective, it's just cropping. Notice how you see round the building and the shape of his face changes as the lens zooms. It's not a dolly shot without without a dolly or motion control rig and counter zooming to maintain the subjects size while changing the lens position and perspective.

Did you read the rest of my post?

Changing the distance between camera and subject is what makes the background move relative to the subject and creating the effect.

You can't do it *just* using zoom, but given a video with the distance between camera and subject changing, it doesn't matter what kind of zoom you then use to keep the subject the same size.

Just come back from the pub after area beers on an empty stomach, can I be excused ta.