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If the former then I’m out.
If you need Wheaton's Law explaining then that's probably no bad thing. (-:
In honesty I'm kind of with you here. An echo chamber does no-one any favours and I enjoy combative debate as much as the next tandem rider or pastie eater. But ultimately, can we not do that and still be kind?
I guess it's kinda "what happens on tour stays on tour"? You and I have butted heads many times on political threads but I wouldn't think twice about say meeting for a pint or helping you out with a computer problem or something. Sometimes arguments spill out across threads and I find that a bit worrying. Someone here once accused me of a personal vendetta and it pulled me up sharp because I had no recollection of seeing their username before. (And with no trace of irony, can't remember now who it was.) But to actively have that sort of falling-out... feels unhealthy to me.
You and I have butted heads many times on political threads but I wouldn’t think twice about say meeting for a pint
And neither would I. In actual fact most of the people I argue with I know IRL anyway. Everyone seems to understand that what we say here is neither real or important. In fact binners and myself have a rule where this place is the *only* place we're allowed to talk about politics (we nearly broke it last time we were in the pub though), because IRL it would be really boring as we furiously agree with each other on almost everything.
In fact binners and myself have a rule where this place is the *only* place we’re allowed to talk about politics
Is there any way the pair of you could be persuaded to reverse that rule?
Or should we be allowed to be ourselves – or even not ourselves – at the risk of causing offence to people who have a lower bar for these things? If the former then I’m out. I’ve no interest in this place turning into a new linkedin with all it’s fake positivity, enthusiasm and disingenuity.
We're not asking for fake anything, least of all what you describe. You can be yourself, just be a bit tactful about it. You have to factor in that we're not face-to-face, otherwise no-one will ever interpret your words the way you intended. This is surely a pre-requisite for effective communication?
“Is that all?”
A great example. A phrase that has completely different meanings depending on the tone of voice used. The problem could have been easily avoided by saying something like "ok understood - is there anything else I need to look at? I want to make sure I've got all the tools I need."
These extra words are needed if you want to get the response you want, because there's no tone of voice or facial expression to give context and meta-information. And yes, I do take great care over this at work, especially now my conversations are nearly all online.
Is there any way the pair of you could be persuaded to reverse that rule?
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