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What , but, erm, ...... ?
Words freaking fail me on this one
https://twitter.com/sebwhale/status/1091063570677170176?s=19
Well he has history of being pretty useless human being, so Yes it is because he is a brexshiteer...
HTHs
All together now... "Maybe it's because I'm a Brexiter..."
Or his Gammonesque complexion....
never thought I'd see the day - Chris Grayling and "lightning" in the same sentence !
no Chris, it's not because you're a brexit supporter, it's because you'll clearly a clueless muppet elevated waaaay beyond your (very) obviously limited capabilities.
It's the Dunning-Kruger effect, he's so stupid he hasn't grasped that he's there simply to make everyone else (and that includes, god help us; Andrea Leadsom) look competent and knowledgeable
He cancelled a new road me that I didn't want built.
So, eurosceptic or not, he's all right by me.
..and he sanctioned 50 Shades of Grey to be available in Prison libraries which can only be a good thing. 🙂
never thought I’d see the day – Chris Grayling and “lightning” in the same sentence !
Though many of us hope
This is a pretty good summary of Grayling's abject uselessness:
http://politics.co.uk/blogs/2019/02/01/week-in-review-a-quick-reminder-that-chris-grayling-is-the-w
On the same day his probation reforms are shown to have cost the taxpayer an extra £1/2bn & led to a sharp rise in re-offending....
Well at least we're learning more about what May thinks a supporting MP's vote is worth. DUP only worth 100M each.
He's a one man deficit generator. I wonder how many billions his constant years of ****-ups have actually cost us all? He must be well into double figures by now?
https://www.thedailymash.co.uk/politics/wetherspoons-given-its-own-rail-franchise-20180517173071
You've got to love him, because, well no one else does - even people and organisations he should expect to be his ally think he's an idiot. He's Mr. Bean but unfortunately he speaks and holds more responsibility than driving a old Mini.
His single achievement, and the one which seems to keep him immune from consequences of his many, many failings is he ran Maybot's campaing to be elected as leader of the Tory Party. She was, of course, the only candidate running.
John Crace Journalist Guardian, the Champaign Socialist's Comic
"Finally we have a confirmed use for Chris Grayling. He is the government's secret weapon to make even the most incompetent and second-rate of ministers feel good about themselves. Not content with having wasted the best part of £14m on the government's first-ever roll-on, roll-off pizza delivery service – all toppings guaranteed to be ferry free, the transport secretary has now spent more than £50K on failing to organise a lorry jam in Kent".
Michael Portillo Train Enthusiast and former Tory Mister for Transport
“the most incompetent minister of all time".
James O'Brien LBC Ranter
If Chris Grayling Was TRYING To Be Incompetent, He Still Wouldn't Be This Incompetent
The Daily Mail - Hate Comic for the terminally afraid and Tory Love Rag
"Failing Grayling"
The Telegraph - Tory HQs external newsletter
"In these benighted times, there are few British politicians who could be cited as role models for the young. But if I were asked to name one, I would, without hesitation, say Chris Grayling. For a very simple reason.
He shows that anything is possible.
He does. He is living, breathing proof that all you need, if you want to get somewhere in life, is self-belief. Not intelligence, or talent, or skill, or knowledge, or basic competence, or anything like that. Just self-belief."
And finally, words from the Man, the Legend himself which I'm sure will please us all.
Chris Grayling - Transport Secretary - and Doorer
"Cyclists are not Road Users".
Chris Grayling is my nemesis. His continued ineptitude has cost me both time and money, I am subsidising his bid to be crowned World Incompetence Champion Of All Time.
I have written to my local MP, a well known onanist and fan of part human, part biscuit monikered bands to ask for his endorsement of my nomination of Grayling as Conservative Party chairman. I strongly believe that he has the desired attributes for that job.
Also, there is a strong correlation between certain ministers and MPs grasp of verifiable fact and where they stand on the Brexit spectrum. I give you McVey, Dorries, Grayling, Johnson, IDS, Redwood and Leadsom vs Grieve, Soubry, Greening, etc.
Generally the thicker they are, the more Brexity they become.
I tried to get the M20 called the Chris Grayling express way.
The petition people wouldn't let me.
His messing is proven with the probation service report today .
brexiteer ≡ incompetence so yes
Surely the ultimate comment on Grayling is that pretty much every single one of his reforms whilst SoS For Justice was reversed by Michael Gove within a very short order. The man is an idiot and must have some pretty incriminating photographs of someone.
The man is an idiot and must have some pretty incriminating photographs of someone.
Portillo reckons he's one of the very, very few Brexiteers who hasn't run away from the mess and for that reason alone he gets to stay.
Hmm, you really think he has done all of the badly organised things listed above? It is the Civil Servants and other minions who enact the policies, and they are the ones where the blame should lie. He got loads of flack about the rail timetable change (which could not be sustained) in May, . Do you think he had any input on that at all?
He would be told there is a new increased timetable coming in,all good. He would have had nothing at all to do with it, apart from agreeing the overall plan. It is the people who below him who let everyone down by agreeing it could all be done.
I'm not saying he is perfect, but, he cannot be held to account for stuff he has little input on. The same with the prison reforms, he would say '"we want to do this", then pass that on to those below him, who would give a plan, which, on paper, would look great. It is when you get to putting it into action that it does not work. It happens throughout the levels of Government down to your Parish Council. There are incompetent people who think they can do things that are far beyond them, yet they carry on doing it, losing money everywhere.
I was a Parish Councillor around 6 years ago. What a corrupt insular backstabbing bunch they were. They wanted to buy the old police station to use for their offices. There were 2 building trades people on the council. We both said it could not be done for the price they said. £30000 to convert a semi derelict building into a public office for the Council. We both eventually resigned as a 70 year old woman knew more about building than we did according to the other members. The eventual bill was £110k. So, the people of Blaby have a £500k bill (inc. price of the building) to pay for for the next 25 years, when the existing offices were quite alright for the needs at the time.
This incompetence goes all the way to the top, but, I wouldnt blame the Minister, he is taking guidance from this below him.
With the greatest of respect, as minister responsible for justice, employment and transport, it’s Grayling’s actual job to take personal responsibility is he or his subordinates mess up to the sort of magnitude which would be career ending in the private sector.
Grayling has failed to undertake basic due diligence on every single project he’s been involved in, has drained public coffers as a result of incompetence and each department he’s headed up has deteriorated in terms of quality, morale and cost effectiveness.
So yes, it’s his fault. It’s all his fault but he never once accepts responsibility.
Hmm, you really think he has done all of the badly organised things listed above?
Yes, whilst I don't think those departments are completely unstaffed bar one Minister doing all the work, I would hold him responsible. At the very least he set those departments goals and signed off their plans to achieve them, in some cases he was personally involved in making dealing with suppliers etc.
He has made huge, howling errors in every department he has been given to run and it's cost a staggering amount of money and caused a huge amount of suffering for the people he's supposed to be helping.
His major flaw is complete and utter faith in his own abilities even in the face of immeasurable failure. His over-confidence and ego know no bounds, even now in light of his latest **** up, he's somewhere in Westminster (probably), sat back in his chair thinking of new 'out of the box' ideas to unleash upon all of us.
I mean, I love playing devil's advocate, but when his own allies and colleagues start slating him so publicly and completely unequivocally, how can anyone defend him?
Failing Grayling is the embodiment of why "It's not what you know, it's who you know" drags everyone down to the level thickest idiot in the room.
Hmm, you really think he has done all of the badly organised things listed above
Yes. His reforms to the Prison services included banning books from prisons. He's a tool who should be as far away from actual responsibility as it possible to be.
His reforms to the Prison services included banning books from prisons.
I'm sure Portillo's description of him is 100pc accurate, but the banning books story is a bit misleading. They actually banned small packages. Prisons still had libraries and prisoners could still buy books or have books bought for them on their behalf, just not directly posted by friends and family.
Apologies for the source: http://www.conservativehome.com/platform/2014/03/chris-grayling-mp-we-have-not-repeat-not-banned-books-from-prison-what-we-have-barred-is-unknown-and-unchecked-parcels.html
I'm not defending the policy and they were right to change it, but describing it as banning book from prisons is a bit misleading.
Grayling has failed
Nuff sed.
I am normally more sympathetic to ministers than I suspect the majority of those on STW would be, as I take the view that the majority are not idiots and whilst I might not agree with all the decisions they make, I can at least understand and respect their arguments.
However Grayling is the major exception to this rule and to argue advisers & civil servants are actually the ones to blame by enacting his policies badly rather overlooks the fact that at the MoJ Gove immediately reversed not the detailed enactment but the basic policies themselves (to a chorus of pretty much universal approval from bodies who are not normally right leaning).
In addition, whilst all ministers make major errors of judgement at one point or other, Grayling's track record in cock ups is in a league all of its own.
Alanl, you need to learn how the civil service works. Sensible people will have advised him his ideas are crap, but he'll have pig-headedly insisted they're good and to crack on. A Minister is always responsible for thngs agreed on his watch. He may well have ineffective spads but thats his lookout, and they're not civil servants....
It’s the Dunning-Kruger effect, he’s so stupid he hasn’t grasped that he’s there simply to make everyone else (and that includes, god help us; Andrea Leadsom) look competent and knowledgeable
If your answer to the question is yes he is stupid, then you are asking the wrong question.
If your answer to the question is "is Chris grayling a perfect minister in a Government that hates Government, and wishes to dismantle/destroy it for a small state ideology" is yes, then you are on the right track.
Which Grayling isn't. He's rather derailed train services in this country.
Graylings **** ups have cost us all £2.7 billion so far, and he’s still in a job
Did anyone see channel 4 news before. Comedy gold! Krishnan was interviewing a Tory MP (as Grayling has gone to ground). He was defending Failing and the camera panned back to Krishnan who looked at the camera, raised his eyebrows, then rolled his eyes. Didn’t say a word. Didn’t need too. In that action he expressed the universal contempt of the nation
Grayling as minister bears ultimate responsibility, especially as in both the ferry & probation scandals he ignored private warning by consultants & public warnings by experts at the time
https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/ferry-firm-warnings-ignored-by-grayling-v2z3n0dcd
http://www.prisonreformtrust.org.uk/PressPolicy/News/vw/1/ItemID/179
For the record I was a serving prison officer when Arsehole Bollox (Grayling) was justice secretary. He single handedly decimated staffing levels to a seriously dangerous figure. He let over 5000 staff leave on VEDS (voluntary early departure scheme) paying out a fortune in the process. Understandably due to his ineptness, he 'forgot' to replace those staff with new ones on a lower wage (that came later). This resulted in a prison system in absolute turmoil for about 5 years with more assaults on staff & prisoners ever before & even more staff stressed to death & more man hours of sickness due to it. It's not getting much better either. You may have heard now & again that HMPS are recruiting 3500 extra staff. This is to replace the 5000 + that Grayling let go, so in actual fact HMPS are still over 1500 officers short of what they should be.
I despise all MP's but that useless pile of shite goes the extra mile.
Do you think that with Brexit going tits up that Failing is being groomed to take all the blame?
Can we expect some jail time?
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Do you think that with Brexit going tits up that Failing is being groomed to take all the blame?
Even with his reputation and near limitless powers of fail, nobody would buy that.
..and he sanctioned 50 Shades of Grey to be available in Prison libraries which can only be a good thing. 🙂
Well, I suppose a lot of the bondage and control elements are present already.
What is the worst job in government?
The one Grayling had before you.
Vote for Brexit & give the NHS £350m per week. Would have been a lot easier (& cheaper) to have just fired Failing Grayling.
What is the worst job in government?
None, because you can pick up a massive salary and be spectacularly shit at it (Liam Fox I’m looking at you), but so long as you are less of a tosspot than Grayling, then no one tends to notice.
It is why he still gets ministerial jobs.
Dunning Kruger meets the Dilbert Principle in the perfect storm.

There's more failings afoot