[Closed] Iron Maiden on BBC4

Live after Death is teh commuting album for tomorrow!

it is quite good fun, but watching this & that Metallica documentary, I can't help but think of Spinal Tap

& Bruce Dickinson seems to be the only band member who has realised that fashion has changed slightly from Maiden's heyday...

Not enough toms on that drum kit. 🙂

And the pilot of the plane is a band member...

They had better get it on iPlayer. Heavy Metal Brittania tomorrow, too.
Damn my lack of TV...

I have their double DVD of videos. Great stuff and very nostalgic. Saw them at Donnington in '88 - 107 000 capacity I believe. 2 people were crushed during the Guns n Roses set.

Isn't there a whole Metal night on BBC4 tonight, documentaries etc, culminating in the Maiden gig?

Saw them at the Red Lion, Leytonstone High Road and doubt if there were 107 people there

mastiles_fanylion - Member

Isn't there a whole Metal night on BBC4 tonight, documentaries etc, culminating in the Maiden gig?

Why yes, yes there is, thank you!

Must get beer on the way home!

Blimey, the Red Lion. You could drink six pints of Watneys in there and go home stone cold sober. I was in the same class as Stephen Harris in primary and secondary school in Leytonstone and Leyton, nice guy but very quiet then.

And my wife happens to be going out for the evening.

Funnily enough it was my mum who alerted me to this televisual feast - I brainwashed her with my music as a teenager and she has never recovered (she still really likes Maiden's NOTB) 🙂

You may know me too then Bill, I also went to Leyton County High at that time

Heh-heh,saw them at the Caird hall in Dundee in 1980,500 there.NOTB,one of my fav albums of all time.

NOTB

(And saw them live on the Beast on the Road tour as a 14 yr old, head in the bass bin as I thought that was what you 'did').

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the mighty Maiden, saw them a few times but the first time was when my dad took me as a 13 year old to the Seventh Tour of a Seventh Tour at Edinburgh Playhouse........i "moshed" all night while he sat beside me with hankies stuffed in his ears

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oh yes 😀

Yep big NOTB fan here - I got to see them at Roskilde Rock Festival with a whole bunch of crazy drunk Norwegians

They were superb at Monsters of Rock doing their Fear of the Dark Stuff, but sometimes I wish I was a little older to have seen them do Somewhere in Time and Seventh Son live.

Headlining Sonisphere festival this year, my metal loving GF is dragging me along...

Check the listen again for Radcliffe on Radio 2 last night. I am not knowledgable on metal but they did play Breaking The Law and discuss the rise of metal. It was worth listening to for the Brummie accents.

Breaking the Law - amazing track. Was listening to Hell Bent for Leather on my way into work this morning though 8)

Much prefer the earlier stuff from Sad Wings Of Destiny such as Genocide and Tyrant

Yeah, some of the early Priest stuff's corking...tho' some of the later stuff is too:)

It's worth checking out the 'Halford' albums (and Two for that matter) - some of the best albums Priest have never made, iyswim...

I used to like Maiden in the very early days (Di'Anno plus a bit)....but they were on at Download a few years ago, and I wandered off to one of the other tents 😮

Yeah, some of the early Priest stuff's corking...tho' some of the later stuff is too:)

The "Unleashed in the East" album is excellent.

Didn't think much of it as a live album, too heavily remixed and no audience participation apart from the odd scream here and there

Much prefer Live After Death (perhaps a bit too much scream for me long beach)UFO Strangers in the night, Scorpions tokyo tapes or one of my favourites Big Country without the aid of a safety net

I must be getting old!

I bought my first Maiden album, it was Killers when i was hmm about 13/14yrs old. First saw them live on the Powerslave tour in 84 or 85 and was completely blown away!

Fave all time track is 'Still Life' from the Piece of Mind album.

My best mate was the official photographer on that tour. Some awesome stories!

It's worth checking out Flight666 too 😉

watching it now and they;re doing Wasted Years, that's brought a lump to my throat (goes to look for the Somewhere In Time album i have on vinyl)

Y'know, last couple of yrs i've been dealing with clinical depression.

'Wasted Years' actually tells me to MTFU and live my ****in' life!

Maidens MINT

Woohoo, I was so tired last night that I went to bed and hadn't realised this was on.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/search/?q=iron%20maiden

Just finished watching the documentary and I have to say - what a conceited c*ck Bruce Dickinson was. Yes you may be a technically better singer than Dianno but he was and will remain (IMO) a singer with more style and character than you will ever hope to have.

(Although I did have a lump in my throat at the end when they showed people piling in to the sold out Beast on the Road tour when [i]'metal went stratospheric'[/i] - I was there for my first ever gig at Bradford St George's Hall as a 14 yr old in my home-made Maiden tee). 🙂

I thought Bruce was OK. I don't listen to them anymore but was a fan for a decade or so. I didn't know he could fly those things so that with his music and fencing achievements makes for an impressive chap really.

Don't get me wrong - he is clearly very intelligent (public schoolboy and all that) and that came across well, but to say what he did was a bit insulting to a fellow musician - he said something like 'when I first heard Iron Maiden I thought the musicianship was great , but I thought the singer was rubbish and thought I could do better'. Now that might (technically) be the case, but to say that in an interview was a bit knobbish IMO.

Which is a shame because I have always thought him a nice guy (and he rates my mate's band - he has played them lots on his Radio 6 show 😉 ).

'when I first heard Iron Maiden I thought the musicianship was great , but I thought the singer was rubbish and thought I could do better'. Now that might (technically) be the case, but to say that in an interview was a bit knobbish IMO.

I don't believe that was quite the quote, I remember it as him saying "I loved the music but I thought it should have been me up there singing instead", ok it may ultimately mean the same thing but that kind of confidence is what you need to make it as a singer, and perhaps make it at anything in life.

I have nothing but respect for Iron Maiden and Bruce Dickinson and they are one of the few bands that make me feel like a giggly kid again.

By the way, Bruce is actually a commercial airline pilot when he isn't touring and I have heard that they actually have to fit their tours around his flying schedule.

Not only is Bruce Dickinson a pilot, he is a commercial airline pilot with Astraeus ( or was, the airline may have gone bump), as we flew with them a few years ago. At the time he was also a D.J. at radio 2, I like him alot 🙂

A friend of mine used to fly with him regularly (he's a pilot too) and they became quite good friends. Bruce invited him to concerts quite often and they watched from the side of the stage.

I watched the Heavy Metal Britannia program last night, it was ace. Half way through Flight 66 on IPlayer and still have the Maiden Live concert to watch too, a televisual feast to savour. Iron Maiden was the second gig I ever went to, I think, Seventh Tour of a Seventh Tour at the Manchester apollo, age 16, with Killer Dwarfs supporting. ACE gig

ok it may ultimately mean the same thing but that kind of confidence is what you need to make it as a singer, and perhaps make it at anything in life.

And I still think that Iron Maiden and Killers blow all subsequent Maiden albums out of the water (with the possible exception of NOTB which is as good, but no better). IMO.

And I didn't realise that his pilot's licence made him somehow better or something. Lots of people have them you know! My best mate's brother in law has one - wow!

And my point was that he didn't say it the way you described it. The way he actually said it was no where near as critical as you are making out.

No one said having a pilots license was a big deal: The point is that to hold a commercial airline pilots job, front one of the biggest bands in the world, present radio programmes, write books, present tv programmes all takes alot of energy and talent and not a small amount of confidence.

And my point was that he didn't say it the way you described it.

Don't get me wrong - I have always had a lot of time for him (and have stated this in the thread) but admiring someone doesn't mean you do not have a right to be critical when they say something stupid. And in *my opinion* he said something stupid. I am not the only one (there are plenty of people on here who agree with me on this) that thinks that Paul Dianno-era Maiden were superior. And I say that as someone who cut his metal teeth on Dickinson-era Maiden.

No I don't agree that he came across as arrogant. Confident and sure of what he wanted, but that is not the same as arrogant.

I also don't see the link between him apparently being arrogant and a few people preferring the Di'anno era.

Fair enough if you don't, we can all have our opinions can't we?

The link being that he said he heard them and thought the singer was rubbish and that he could do better.

But many people don't think he did better.

I think he did vastly better. That Di'anno geezer didn't have much of a voice at all.

Di'Anno = awesome

Don't think too much of that guy that came after him though...

...sorry!

I think in the world of rock and pop stars Bruce comes across as a relatively good bloke - as does the rest of the band for that matter.

Bruce has said the same thing for years - he went to see maiden, and he thought he wanted to be the front man - hence why he went on to join Samson to get him out there.

Plus some of paul's performances could be a little hit n miss, so it could well have been Bruce saw em on a bad night for Paul

Di'anno was great for the early Maiden stuff but they'd never have got as far as they have without Bruce. Paul has admitted as much himself. Paul's also a top bloke, (my sis used to house share with him), although he does have a reputation for over exaggerating the past and is known somewhat affectionatley as "Paul Di'other one"!

Anyway - very happy to see Maiden doing well in recent years. IMHO all sparked when Bruce & Adrian rejoined for Brave New World - awesome song writing combination.

As for Flight 666 - I could watch it over and over...so many goosebump moments! Up the Irons!

I think in the world of rock and pop stars Bruce comes across as a relatively good bloke

Which is a shame because I have always thought him a nice guy

I just don't know why he said what he did - it is simply insulting to a fellow performer. A performer who many believe was better than Dickinson ever has been - if not for technical excellence, at least for style and character.

I believe his statement was along the lines of he saw maiden and looked at the singer (Di'anno) and thought to himself I want to be that guy. Anyway, aside from that it seems that Bruce has an enormous amount of energy, must be quite tiring piloting that plane as well as gigging, did like the road crews choruses of 'You're sh1t, and you know you are' every time one of the flight crew dropped a clanger 😀

My formative music years started early 80's, first gig was Maiden at Birmingham Odeon on the NOTB tour, seen them half a dozen times but not for over 10 years, been listening to them a lot since watching this programme and just ordered several CD's of albums that have long since departed. Still have my blood red vinyl copy of NOTB though 😀

I just watched the heavy metal program which I think is what you are refering to where Bruce said what he said about being the lead singer. IMO he's very much meaning to say that that's what he should be doing with his life rather than saying that he'd be better than Paul. So I think you misunderstood what he was getting at.

Weren't the words along the lines of 'the music was great but I thought the singer was bad and that I could do better'

Perhaps I misunderstood what he was trying to say, but that was how it came across to me - conceited.

Which is a shame.

That comment could just as easily be described as being objective. Perhaps you're just a sensitive flower?
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I loved the live footage.
Good to see that they still can put on a great show and there's no lacking in energy!
As a fan of Maiden in their heyday, I find it difficult to accept that Janek bloke as part of the band.

I was a big fan up until Seventh Son but kind of lost interest a bit(in metal generally, ) around that time.
Saw them at the Birmingham Odeon in the 80s - my first ever concert. Happy days.

Perhaps you're just a sensitive flower

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