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Sending SMS to Mrs Munkster (me on iPhone, she on Android) during the day, and she often doesn't receive them until she is home (she works in a signal blackspot really and has no wifi available) even if she does venture out blinking into the outside world they still don't arrive. I know this is true because I've heard her phone go off in the evening and she's shown me it's my text come through.
Question is - whose fault is this likely to be? The Android or the network? Is it because it's iPhone to Android? If she had an iPhone I guess the SMS will be sent over the internet and no need to wait for the mobile network when a signal becomes available? (Of course, I am secretly thinking this is a sneaky way to get an upgrade and her to have my iPhone SE, which I do find too small for my sausage fingers)...
ps - both on the same mobile network too...
It would be the network.
Think most networks have an increasing delay built into retries. So can end up delayed even after you rejoin the network.
Try WhatsApp, it shows the sender when it's arrived.
did she have an iphone previously? imessage can take some time to decide to send a message as an SMS.
try whatsapp instead.
Try WhatsApp, it shows the sender when it’s arrived.
+1
It'll show when you send it, when she gets it and when she reads it. That might help track the issue. Same for Viber I think
Durr obviously I should just use WhatsApp right... I use it to message pretty much anyone else but Mrs M isn’t the most technologically adventurous so have just always stuck to SMS with her.
Thanks for removing a good case for me buying a new phone, I hope you’re all pleased with yourselves 😉
Thanks anyway, 21st century messaging here we come!
Sending SMS to Mrs Munkster (me on iPhone, she on Android) during the day, and she often doesn’t receive them until she is home (she works in a signal blackspot really and has no wifi available)
You've answered your own question. SMS is sent via GSM (ie, the phone network), it's nothing to do with Wi-Fi / data. If she's out of mobile signal, SMS ain't gonna work.
IIRC the iPhone can do something fruity with text messages (is it iMessage or some such?) where it can send SMSes via the Internet, but only to other iPhones. Could be that you need to disable this, maybe? I'm not well versed with Apple so take this with a pinch of salt, just throwing an idea out.
imessages are blue (require a data connection and a recipient registered with imessage), SMS are green (only require a GSM connection)
Ah, right. Ta.
So is it possible that Mrs Monkster had an iPhone previously and therefore might still be registered with Apple as an iMessage-capable recipient when she no longer is?
It's not about whether she ought to be able to receive texts when out of signal (GSM or 4G) it's whether the phone will deliver them promptly when back in signal, and that's sort of been answered. I'm aware that without a signal it's not going to work 😉
If it's iPhone to Android my assumption is that the iPhone realises it's not another iPhone it's sending to so just sends as a text message rather than iMessage...
FWIW she did used to have an iPhone but she does get my texts when she is out in the open, so don't that restricts us at all.
Anyway, think we're sorted now, after I've been given the "bleedin' obvious" pointed out to me, ie. WhatsApp!! Cheers.
Curious to know if network is EE?
GiffGaff so that’s O2, or always used to be...
Ah ok, I only asked as have been getting same problem (sending and receiving) between Android (Moto G6) on EE and an iPhone (5C) on Vodafone.
I used to have issues with delayed texts to my ex (before she was the ex), from my iPhone to her old Android. Mostly just long delays but also some messages would arrive out of order or weirdly corrupted, with parts of old texts in them, never did get to the bottom of it but she always said it was just my texts that did that
iMessage is likely just another messaging service like FB Messenger, WhatsApp etc. Just it integrates into the messaging stuff in iPhone. Send to a number it recognises (anther iPhone) and it will use iMessage, otherwise SMS. No data but a signal, I guess just SMS.
Android phone will just send SMS. Doesn't have a clue about Apple stuff.
Though you could both use FB Messenger and this can be set to integrate with SMS so it will do something similar.
I think some Android manufacturers also have their own chat solutions that enhance with data but integrate SMS.