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I now have an iPad 4, which I was quite looking forward to getting.
Now I have it, well, it's not actually that good.
* It's heavy. REALLY heavy, and the sharp edges hurt if you try to hold in it one hand.
* The next time someone whinges about Android being buggy, I'm going to use the razor sharp edge to lop off their head. It's a nightmare. In fact, it proved so difficult to re-arrange the icons on the screen I had to Google it to find out if I was doing it wrong. Apps open random links in the browser and leave the tabs open.
* The app store is useless. Beyond useless. Tapping on Install on the pop-up dialog doesn't work, forcing you to delve deeper into the description to find a working install button.
On the plus side, it is fairly speedy, the games are better than Android, and I like the desktop background. But unfortunately I suspect I'll be keeping my Nexus 7 for general usage and the iPad for work.
Glad I didn't have to pay for it, or it would have gone back to the shop. Disappointed.
[i]the sharp edges hurt if you try to hold in it one hand[/i]
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They appear to be the pocket camera of choice for tourists in Rome, which I just don't understand as it isn't a particularly good camera and they're not exactly compact.....
Love my iPad. It's more or less replaced my desktop entirely. Can't fault it. I paid for mine though, maybe I'm looking for the best in a piece of technology that I contributed nothing towards.
Now I have it, well, it's not actually that good.* It's heavy. REALLY heavy, and the sharp edges hurt if you try to hold in it one hand.
I'll do you a straight swap for my iPad mini. Which doesn't.
Actually, no, I like my mini and that's pretty much why I bought it in the first place. 🙂
Love my iPad too. Can't fault it really.
It isn't a particularly good camera
It actually is. Not canon 5d good, but still good.
I don't think anyone's is going to have much sympathy for someone moaning about what is, undoubtedly, a really nice bit of kit that they got for free.
It actually is. Not canon 5d good, but still good.
My iPhone 5 camera is actually astonishingly good. I use it more than my 650D.
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It's heavy. REALLY heavy,
Now I'm no Geoff Capes, but I rarely have trouble holding my iPad up.
Time to hit the weights?
. In fact, it proved so difficult to re-arrange the icons on the screen I had to Google it to find out if I was doing it wrong.
My 8 year old Daughter, at the time, worked that out in about an hour by herself. Her 5 year old sister took a few hours longer.
People are generally stupid and will buy into what they are told to.
Why is Xfactor etc so popular ?
I'm not going to moan about the one mrs aracer got for free. The kids have lots of fun playing games on it.
Apps open random links in the browser and leave the tabs open.
Eh? Can't say I ever remember that happening. Odd.
I have an ipad 2 and must say I don't really get why people are prepared to pay such a premium over an equivalent android tablet.
People are generally stupid and will buy into what they are told to.Why is Xfactor etc so popular ?
So people don't actually like using their iPads, but Apple say they are good so we are utterly brainwashed into believing they actually are good?
My iPhone 5 camera is actually astonishingly good. I use it more than my 650D
And looks even better viewing it on my retina display 😉
People are generally stupid and will buy into what they are told to.Why is Xfactor etc so popular ?
Troll alarm
Just to bite a little. The buy British campaigns failed to save the domestic car industry.
People are generally stupid and will buy into what they are told to.
Why is Xfactor etc so popular ?
So people don't actually like using their iPads, but Apple say they are good so we are utterly brainwashed into believing they actually are good?
I didn't say people didn't enjoy using them did I. I was talking about popularity stakes.
I know plenty of people happy with them.. There are though much better products available for the money. And with all the proprietary software accessories etc it seems slightly strange to me .
Maybe it's brand association? Particularly with the older folk... digital music player = iPod, tablet = iPad etc
I recently advised my Dad to steer clear. He didn't take the advice......he now regrets it.
[i]My [b]iPhone 5[/b] camera is actually astonishingly good[/i]
What's that got to do with the price of fish?
I have an ipad 2 and must say I don't really get why people are prepared to pay such a premium over an equivalent android tablet.
Because back hen the ipad 2 was current there wasn't an Android equivalent?
(Not really convinced there is yet to be honest. Mate just ditched his Nexus for an ipad)
The one moan I have, that Flaperon doesn't mention is how bad they are to type on...
There are though much better products available for the money
Enlighten me.
Yeah not fantastic for that but not for found a touch screen that is.
There's cheaper products out there and probably some as good but not sure there's a better one.
My Dad asked about going to an Apple Mac and I advised him they're very good but expensive so as he's retied to save his money and stay with a PC. He didn't listen to my advice and doesn't regret it.
They are terrible to type on aren't they?
(He says, typing a reply whilst standing in the kitchen...)
(Not really convinced there is yet to be honest. Mate just ditched his Nexus for an ipad)
Conversely I now always use my nexus 4 over my ipad unless I want to watch a film or something.
Edit: oh yeah, that's one of the main reasons I use the nexus over the ipad. Having the swiping keyboard is sooooooo much better!
I ditched my iPad 3 for a nexus 7, much better IMO.
I reckon that's all it comes down to Ivan, personal preference.
My younger Bro has a nexus and it's very nice good piece of kit but I still prefer the iPad.
People are generally stupid and will buy into what they are told to.
Why is Xfactor etc so popular ?
Troll alarm
Just to bite a little. The buy British campaigns failed to save the domestic car industry.
Troll ? Really? I answered the only posed question didn't I?
Oh n yes the British car industry deserved to die.
My sister, gained a phd writing a C++ programme
and her husband who another academic who is more than happy to build a pc, programme etc
Have arrived at family events that saying that the haven't yet got their holiday photos onto their ipad. Apparently drag and drop isn't allowed?
Their next tablet will be Android
I have access to a nexus 7 from work. They are great photo viewers and ok web browsers. But they don't do flash or java do they? I suppose you can print by e-mail?
but you ca't use them as a phone can you? Which to me is odd.
I think that for me a 5 inch or 6 inch phone would be ideal. Then jump up in size to a laptop with real key board, printer drivers and proper photo editing software
Have arrived at family events that saying that the haven't yet got their holiday photos onto their ipad. Apparently drag and drop isn't allowed?
Plug SD card into Photo Connector kit, up pops Photos app showing you all the photos on card and asking which to import.
2 minute job that even a C++ programmer can manage. 😀
The main problem that folk have with iPads (and iPhones etc) is expecting them to work in the same odd ways as PCs.
* It's heavy. REALLY heavy, and the sharp edges hurt if you try to hold in it one hand.
You poor delicate little flower.
* The next time someone whinges about Android being buggy, I'm going to use the razor sharp edge to lop off their head. It's a nightmare. In fact, it proved so difficult to re-arrange the icons on the screen I had to Google it to find out if I was doing it wrong. Apps open random links in the browser and leave the tabs open.
Eh? If you struggle with a simple touch screen, you can easily do it using the list of screens that show in iTunes when you sync the iPad. Piece of piss, frankly, and only something you really need to do once.
* The app store is useless. Beyond useless. Tapping on Install on the pop-up dialog doesn't work, forcing you to delve deeper into the description to find a working install button.
I truly fail to see what you're having such a problem with; installing an app is simplicity itself, I can only imagine that you're deliberately making it difficult so you've got something to snivel about.
And I'm having no problems typing this, holding my pad one-handed as I'm sitting on the couch, the predictive spelling works beautifully 90+% of the time.
And I'm having no problems typing this, holding my pad one-handed as I'm sitting on the couch, the predictive spelling works beautifully 90+% of the time.
To be fair I have no problem typing with the ipad keyboard but the android one is vastly better for me.
Have arrived at family events that saying that the haven't yet got their holiday photos onto their ipad. Apparently drag and drop isn't allowed?
My Daughters can do lessons if they want some. She's 9 now but I'm sure for few sweets she is still be able to show them how to do it.
fervouredimage - Member
There are though much better products available for the money
Enlighten me..
Pretty much my original point... ironically 😉
Not a huge fan of the keyboard but other than that my iPad is a great device. Really simple. Never had the issues mentioned above.
Pretty much my original point... ironically
Well if you're referring to the kindle or nexus, then you're wrong.
At least for my preferences your wrong. Someone else might be after something different, they might prefer something else. Preferred the mini to the Samsung offerings too.
Ipad2 here:
More than acceptable for typing on.
Premium feel, interface and in a construction sense.
Easy to use interface.
Brilliant screen.
No sharp edges. Rubber surround included...
Impressive battery life.
Reasonable sound.
FaceTime
On the other hand
Forced in to inputting payment details upon initiation.
Expensive
Grainy image producing camera.
Un expandable memory.
No USB input
Apple specificity of connections could frustrate.
No USB input on Asus Nexus 7 either.
Pretty much my original point... ironically
Not really. I chose the iPad after trying out countless others. The others I tried fell short so please tell me what is conclusively better for the money?
Why type when you can use the built in voice recognition software (A feature of the iPed three, four and iPhone 4s and five I think?)? It even understands my dodgy Kiwi accent! Even more surprisingly, it understands my mother-in-laws Scottish accent, which I thought would be a bridge too far. For those of you who haven't discovered yet, it's the little microphone symbol on the left of the space bar on the keyboard. Used for this message in its entirety. Resorting to typing to say... Comma, full stop, open/close brackets, new paragraph, question mark etc all understood
Edit: it looks like it did pick up my accent with its interpretation of the word iPad! Gotta love those kiwi flattened vowel sounds.....
Kiwifiz - voice recognition is alive and kicking on Ipad2.
Have arrived at family events that saying that the haven't yet got their holiday photos onto their ipad. Apparently drag and drop isn't allowed?
Because its not needed. Ever heard of photostream? All my pics on all my 3 Apple devices without lifting a finger. 🙂
Either that or you can just sync your pics. I don't do that as I upload them to Flickr.
My sister, gained a phd writing a C++ programmeand her husband who another academic who is more than happy to build a pc, programme etc
Have arrived at family events that saying that the haven't yet got their holiday photos onto their ipad. Apparently drag and drop isn't allowed?
Their next tablet will be Android
Proof that the education system is fundamentally flawed and producing morons I'll equipped for the rigours of daily life.
🙁
No USB input on Asus Nexus 7 either.
Yes there is. You can plug into the mini USB no problem.
Not sure what is wrong with the keyboard (other than it isn't tactile because it is on-screen)?
I think it has some nice features (like accents and the .co.uk button, emoji, dictation, undocking to move around the screen, splitting in two to use your thumbs etc)
Graham, I just prefer the swipe functionality of the android one. There's nothing wrong with the ipad one as such, I just find swiping much easier/quicker.
I'm not compatible with iTunes, that's my main problem with apple products. IOS and android are much of a muchness to me these days. There again I drive a Mondeo, not an Audi.
* It's heavy. REALLY heavy, and the sharp edges hurt if you try to hold in it one hand.
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Forced in to inputting payment details upon initiation.
Expensive
Grainy image producing camera.
Un expandable memory.
No USB input
Apple specificity of connections could frustrate.
If you want to install apps, or buy music, what do you expect. You have to do similar with Amazon?
The camera is grainy in low light, as are pretty much all mobile cameras.
If you have expandable memory, like SD cards, you still have to take something off to allow something else to be added; you can only have one card in a slot at a time. Things like photos go into Photostream anyway, so you can delete photos when there's too many on the Pad.
What do you mean by no USB input? It connects by USB, and there's ways of getting stuff onto an iPad via USB; use the Camera Kit, it has two connectors, one with an SD card slot, one with a USB port. I use Dropbox, Air Sharing, Downloader and USB Disk for transferring stuff, as well as iTunes.
It means not carrying easily lost SD or SD Micro cards around.
We got an iPad just a few weeks ago, and our first apple product.
Its nice, well screwed together, and does what it does very well. However it hasn't made me want to buy in to the Apple dream, I don't like the fact I can't connect it straight to my phone or printer, and get files on to it is a PITA, then I can't use it to stream to other devices either...
Already looking at what alternatives are out there with detachable keyboard, and can do the above.
What files?
However it hasn't made me want to buy in to the Apple dream
What is the "apple dream" can you buy that in the app store?
The Apple dream requires eating blue cheese apples at bed time I believe.
And what files?
Funny isn't it? All these issues.. ( the Connectivity being my personal gripe)
yet still so popular?
I wonder a bike manufacturer making a frame which only accepts same brand specific size forks, wheels etc and paying over the odds for the privilege....
Can any of the iPad fans on here explain to me how I get it to print to the printer I have connected to a Windows XP print server on my WiFi network? Buy a new printer is an incorrect answer.
Or here's another one for you - how do you send an e-mail with 2 different attachments?
yet still so popular?.
Companies like google, Sony, HTC, nokia, samsung, asus, acer etc would give everything to know the secret of their success.
All these little gripe aside, the technology we have at the moment is absolutely amazing. I still marvel at these devices, be it iPad, iPhone, Android or whatever. Maybe I'm easily pleased 😀
Oh n yes the British car industry deserved to die.
It didn't (die) though did it?
And that's not the whole industry, Ford has it's EU R&D in Essex, and lots of the F1 teams located in/around Northamtonshire.
ipads are brilliant.
Great screen, intuitiive to use and good support.
Coupled with Dropbox and a proper PC at home and work its my default device for 90% of my internet and digital time.
....that said. Surface Pro might be just the ticket for my ideal all in one device.
I wonder a bike manufacturer making a frame which only accepts same brand specific size forks, wheels etc and paying over the odds for the privilege....
I've never been miffed that I can't fit a BMW engine into my C-max. It's a business model that works in lots of other industries, just not one we were ever really used to seeing in computers as most people got used to PC's and their interchangeability.
[quote=MrSmith ]yet still so popular?.
Companies like google, Sony, HTC, nokia, samsung, asus, acer etc would give everything to know the secret of their success.
Marketing, aesthetics and eliteism would be my bet!
OP, I seem to remember that you drive aeroplanes with lots of people in them around the skies for a living. Should we be worried that they let you do this, yet you can't use an iPad? 😉
Any documents of a reasonable size ie over about 10mb, which are on an encrypted works USB stick.
I'm not saying you can't do it, it's just a pain.
Marketing, aesthetics and eliteism would be my bet!
Can't be that difficult to replicate that success then.
MrSmith - Member
yet still so popular?.
Companies like google, Sony, HTC, nokia, samsung, asus, acer etc would give everything to know the secret of their success.
Fashion. That is all.
In fact, it proved so difficult to re-arrange the icons on the screen I had to Google it to find out if I was doing it wrong.
Probably not something you should admit to in public.
iPads - WHY are they taking over the world?
no Apple products exist in my world
surely there's software available that will enable your print server to act as an AirPrint server as well? Can't help you any more than that as I took the smart option and moved away from Windows years ago 8)Can any of the iPad fans on here explain to me how I get it to print to the printer I have connected to a Windows XP print server on my WiFi network? Buy a new printer is an incorrect answer.Or here's another one for you - how do you send an e-mail with 2 different attachments?
As to the multiple attachments thing - no need. Just zip all your files together and send as one attachment.
Come on, its more than just fashion.
Their kit is generally better than the rivals. Higher resolution screens, more premium feel and fit/finish.
That said I really fancy an acer or samsung ultrabook as my next device.
It's heavy. REALLY heavy, and the sharp edges hurt if you try to hold in it one hand.
Prop it up for porn.
(particularly if you're going to be at it for a while)
MrSmith - Member
yet still so popular?.
Companies like google, Sony, HTC, nokia, samsung, asus, acer etc would give everything to know the secret of their success.
Fashion. That is all.
Not just fashion at all though, is it? And nor is it an overnight success. It's many years of ploughing a different furrow and sticking to it, developing a product and, OK yes, an image, that worked and made people want to buy it. Then, make it as good quality as possible, provide (in my experience) faultless customer service. And then, when you've created all if that, make it desirable by slightly under supplying new products to give exclusivity.
Shimano used to do EXACTLY the same thing with their fishing tackle.... Yep. That Shimano. 🙂
Nobody is making you buy it
Ok so my sister can now get her pictures onto an ipad using an sd adaptor now
But that would drive me mad as I post process all my pictures on PC. No App gets close to doing what I want yet. It is of course easy enough to get photos onto an ipad if you use Itunes. Whilst I'm happy to let itunes play with my music files I'd be loathed to let it loose on my pictures as well. I have Lightroom for that
A lack of a simple drag and drop for photos, that you created, can hardly be seen as a good thing. Particularly as the competition allows this
I've never been miffed that I can't fit a BMW engine into my C-max.
You could... maybe you can't, no. I dont think ford are doing anything to prevent you either? Neither are they making you buy their own wheels ,tyres ,audio system etc.
Are we purposely missing the point?
secure FTP?Any documents of a reasonable size ie over about 10mb, which are on an encrypted works USB stick.I'm not saying you can't do it, it's just a pain.
why not just use photostream?Ok so my sister can now get her pictures onto an ipad using an sd adaptor nowBut that would drive me mad as I post process all my pictures on PC. No App gets close to doing what I want yet. It is of course easy enough to get photos onto an ipad if you use Itunes. Whilst I'm happy to let itunes play with my music files I'd be loathed to let it loose on my pictures as well. I have Lightroom for that
A lack of a simple drag and drop for photos, that you created, can hardly be seen as a good thing. Particularly as the competition allows this
You could... maybe you can't, no. I dont think ford are doing anything to prevent you either? Neither are they making you buy there own wheels ,tyres ,audio system etc.
Are we purposely missing the point?
Maybe. Maybe not.
Are you being purposefully picky and pedantic to make yourself look clever? That was just an illustration of a point, nothing more. You know what he meant.... But you just MUST argue. 🙄
🙂
Any documents of a reasonable size ie over about 10mb, which are on an encrypted works USB
Erm do your work know you are in the habit of copying documents off an encrypted USB stick onto unencrypted personal devices? 😯
How does being picky or pedantic quality as being clever?
Dear god the First World Problems on here are getting ridiculous 'boohoo I don't like my amazing tablet computer that I got for free'. 🙄