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Main requirement is to be able to browse the net at home on a decentish size screen, not be as hot/heavy as our 2 year old laptop. Nice to haves are being able to use it on the fly, lightweight, touchscreen etc...
I've heard something worryingly that as it doesn't support flash half the internet doesn't work on them. How can that be the case with the number I've seen in use? Surely that's a big problem?
Other tablets all seem to be similarish price.
Eventually I'd like to try to work out how I can use it with my PS3 and set up some sort of proper home network where I don't have to copy all the music across all devices...any suggestions?
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don't worry about the flash thing, its not that big of an issue
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I've heard something worryingly that as it doesn't support flash half the internet doesn't work on them. How can that be the case with the number I've seen in use? Surely that's a big problem?
It doesn't support Flash - that is true.
"half the internet" is a pretty exaggerated claim though.
Very few mainstream sites rely on you having Flash these days, especially with rise in iPad/iPhone browsing and the advent of HTML5-based video which doesn't need Flash.
Personally I use Flashdance on Firefox to avoid it on my PC as well, as rogue Flash apps are one of the main causes of browser crashes and is also used to track you even if you don't accept cookies (because flash has its own cookies).
Just get a 1st gen, there's one on teh classifieds 😎
I bought one skeptically - I now prefeer browsing the net on it over a laptop or anythign else I have used.
The 2 is a much nicer piece of kit too, one is OK.
Yes, get one. Awesome piece of kit. We have an iPad and iPad2. iPad2 is newer and nicer and more importantly faster.
No Flash, no problem. I am an eCommerce consultant, spend tons of hours a day online and consult almost daily to large retailers about user experience and design and most of them are on a path away from flash. Most sites these days support iPad and other mobile browsers.
There is far more to it than surfing the web, you'll use it more than you might think.
Given how cheap first-gen ones are as the fanboys clamour to upgrade, I would just buy one of those second-hand.
(and did today - 64GB 3G model for less than £400!)
Haven't used an iPad2 but I have a 1 and it is better than a laptop/notebook for instant-on internetting, great for video and makes a handy (if expensive) digital photo frame. Flash not a problem unless you spend your life on mpora.
The iPad is not so hot if you do loads of typing or want to do anything properly productive. It's Apple's way or no way.
I've heard something worryingly that as it doesn't support flash half the internet doesn't work on them. How can that be the case with the number I've seen in use? Surely that's a big problem?
That's a feature, not a limitation.
Most sites provide a faster, less annoying, non-flash interface so I've never noticed the lack of flash (other than in a good way).
Just get a very small light normal laptop if you want an alternative. will be much more comfy, cooler and easier to handle than a normal sized one.
i never really got the whole apple thing!
open source is the future look into android pads
Skyfire browser works on MPORA iirc.
Actually there is an MPORA app! Sorted
open source is the future look into android pads
Here we go again...
I wont get one until the Internet stops using flash or Apple permit it.
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unless you spend your life on mpora.
And even if you do, there's an app for that - I watch loads of mpora videos on my iPhone.
open source is the future look into android pads
Ain't open source great... ooh what's this:
"Google has not only decided to keep the Android Honeycomb source code closed for the foreseeable future, preventing all but a few select partners from using the latest version of its mobile OS, it has also clamped down even harder on those select partners, telling them they can't make changes to the platform or form partnerships of their own without the approval of head Android man Andy Rubin, according to a report citing close to a dozen executives with knowledge of the situation."
-- http://www.theregister.co.uk/2011/03/31/google_clamps_down_on_android_partners/
Yay "Open source"! 🙂
Can you get the ipad working with a ps3 ok then? I'm thinking I could connect via wifi to the ps3 to retrieve music/vids/pictures rather than copy (is the correct phrase 'sync') all the data across via my pc and itunes?
Or would be cool to be able to use stuff I have saved on the ipad and run it through the ps3/telly via wifi.
They are pricey but I don't spend much on this type of thing so happy to spend a little to make sure it's going to keep me and the wife quiet for the next couple of years. The other tablets at the gadget show just seemed 'boring'.
Can you get the ipad working with a ps3 ok then? I'm thinking I could connect via wifi to the ps3 to retrieve music/vids/pictures rather than copy (is the correct phrase 'sync') all the data across via my pc and itunes?
Don't know about the ipad or PS3 but I use Orb Networks app on my iphone to connect to my main PC. I can then stream all my shared content from my PC to my phone either over wi-fi or 3G. Handy when I'm stuck in some shitty hotel on the other side of the world and I can watch films or listen to music that's stored on my home pc.
Got an iPad and find the lack of Flash support irritating. Others don't, but I do.
I don't want to limit any of my internet experience and "use other non-flash sites" as is constantly stated on here.
It is still a great piece of technology, but I am old enough to be irritated when it doesn't display simple pictures or video due to Flash.
Yes there are Apps for popular sites but I still prefer the standard ones - for instance the BBC news.
I am seemingly in the minority with this view though.
Yes there are Apps for popular sites but I still prefer the standard ones - for instance the BBC news
The BBC news app is excellent 🙂
I don't want to limit any of my internet experience
This is pretty much my thinking, and what is steering me towards the Xoom instead.
But you know you [i]really[/i] want my Galaxy Captain....
As an sceptic I reserved the right to purchase an iPad until v2 came around. While it is expensive it is a exceptionally convenient way to check emails, use the Internet, play games and watch tv. Really good 🙂
Yes there are Apps for popular sites but I still prefer the standard ones - for instance the BBC news
Use them then: SkyFire plays all the video on the BBC News site just fine - no flash required.
Having to use a 3rd party way of doing that sort of thing is just lame though for what purports to be the best device out there.
Personally I prefer the way Android OS works, but unfortunately only the Xoom is anywhere the ipad2 in terms of spec, useability, or class, IMO of course.
Having to use a 3rd party way of doing that sort of thing is just lame though
How many Android users stick with the default browser then?
Lack of Flash support might not be a shower-stopper for most people but it certainly can be annoying and is noticeable. Whilst I don't have an iPad I do have an iPhone and a laptop with 64-bit Windows 7 and lack of Flash support is annoying (although on Windows 7 you can obviously either switch to a 32-bit browser or install the beta 64-bit Flash viewer).
Use them then: SkyFire plays all the video on the BBC News site just fine - no flash required.
Yes it does BUT because of the way it works, you have to watch from start to finish - eg you can't skip to the point you want to watch which I find limits it somewhat.
I do most of my home browsing on my iPhone and it's typically fine. There are some sites that the lack of flash is annoying but I can't say I find it a major problem though it does mean for instance that I can't pick up my work email on my phone but have to use the laptop for that.
Lack of Flash support might not be a shower-stopper
I can confirm that my shower is working perfectly. 😀
Whilst I don't have an iPad I do have an iPhone and a laptop with 64-bit Windows 7 and lack of Flash support is annoying
It [i]can[/i] be more annoying on a desktop browser because there is less likely to be a non-flash version of the site for desktop browsers.
But I still generally browse with Flashdance on and I only have to allow a couple of flash apps through a week.
The other point is that most uses of Flash (aside from video and adverts) are designed to be used with a mouse and keyboard - which makes them next to useless on a touch screen anyway.
it does mean for instance that I can't pick up my work email on my phone but have to use the laptop for that.
???? What kind of weird system is your work using that you need Flash to pick up email??
No idea but that's why it won't work...
Presumably you mean you are trying to access email through some awful Flash-based webmail interface - rather than just say using the Mail app on the phone like a normal person?
Yes - we're not able to use the mail app due to export control issues (and the iPhone's lack of security though apparently they are considering developping android and iPhone apps for exactly that reason)...
export control issues
? 😕
and the iPhone's lack of security though apparently they are considering developping android and iPhone apps for exactly that reason
I'm sure the apps they come up with will be much more secure than a standard iPhone where you can use SSL and VPN (with security certificates, RSA SecurID etc). Wish them luck! 😀
I suspect in reality they're just looking for excuses to delay doing it 😉
Also, surely if you can't use the Mail app for "export control issues" - presumably relating to the export of software capable of encrypting communications to a level that makes it difficult for government agencies to decrypt - then any app they develop will either have to be less secure or will fall foul of exactly the same export control?
No, you've misunderstood export control - something I'm not going to get into on here as I can assure you it's VERY dull.
Fair enough - all sounds like bogus excuses to me - but I'm naturally suspicious of IT departments in general 😀
Quite right too. I doubt myself quite often... 😀
Ain't open source great... ooh what's this:"Google has not only decided to keep the Android Honeycomb source code closed for the foreseeable future, preventing all but a few select partners from using the latest version of its mobile OS, it has also clamped down even harder on those select partners, telling them they can't make changes to the platform or form partnerships of their own without the approval of head Android man Andy Rubin, according to a report citing close to a dozen executives with knowledge of the situation."
-- http://www.theregister.co.uk/2011/03/31/google_clamps_down_on_android_partners/Yay "Open source"!
sorry i was referring to froyo 🙄 I am pretty sure thats open source and isn't gingerbread?
bit behind with the times me!!!!!
there is always going to be
camp apple Vs camp android
at least you can [s]watch porn[/s] TV with your android pad!
There is no shortage iPhone/iPad compatible ... err.. "TV".. trust me! 😈
😆
on a different note i wonder how far off pure open source pads are i.e unbuntu etc....
i have seen this flashed on a HD2 phone so there are people out there porting.
Is Android better for watching TV then? 😉
Is Android better for watching TV then?
Checking my bookmarks I have 9 that offer mobile/touchscreen friendly interfaces to free high-quality streaming "TV" - several of which mimic iPhone styling and allow gestures 😯
Is Android better for watching TV then?
i think so but my sight is not what it used to be! 😆
grahamS are you an apple rep by any chance? you seem very passionate about them!
Nope. I may come across as a foaming Apple zealot but I'm really not*.
I'm just interested in tech generally, I have an iPhone, I like it a lot and I'm happy to talk about it.
If I had a droid you'd probably be complaining I was a Google stooge 🙂
(*[i]c.f.[/i] CountZero)
not complaining just merely making comment.
anyway i think its fair to say phone tech has come along way since the early days.
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Anyone know any good/cool apps that I should get(pref free)?
I've just got one but am worried that I'll barely scratch the surface of it's functionality. Yes it was a whim but it's sooooo purdy and I was looking at buying a netbook anyway.
FlipBoard seems pretty good?
I have read that the Ipad3 is not going to follow Apples annual release policy. It will be slightly bigger with screen to the edge and quad processor. So it might be reasonable to wait until the autumn?
What the hell would you need a quad processor for? Its a tablet, not a shrunken main frame...
What the hell would you need a quad processor for? Its a tablet, not a shrunken main frame...
Because even though I don't know what a quad processor is or does, clearly it's better and exactly what I need. 🙄
If your Tablet hasn't got a quad processor you may as well throw it in the bin. FACT.