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Ooh I'm in the midlands, I like bikes, I like beer. I'll need to check some of this out
Hmmm. I like IPA, but I hate fixies.
What makes you think it's an IPA? 🙂
At 4.2% that's no IPA 😉
It doesn't say it is. It just says Pale Ale. OP is mistaken
I'm currently drinking a Thornbridge Jaipur.
IPA with no fixies involved.
mmmm (grrr @ no waitrose here)
No Booths either?
It's not an IPA
It was very good though
St Mel's Pale ale followed by a Clough More Heather IPA
Hmmm! Not sure I have any beer in.
Ah the Cat at Enville *nostalgia mode on*
I'm currently drinking a Thornbridge Jaipur.
IPA with no fixies involved.
I too am drinking Jaipur! (gifted by the brewery for winning a comp, free Jaipur tastes even better...)
IPA...
SchmIPA.
Fantastic that it's so popular again. Plenty of shit ones around. (Lovely labels though. 🙂 ) Had to have a giggle at this effort from Butcombe recently:
Perfectly Respectable locally brewed IPA:
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"Erm, lads, the Brunel's not selling so well at the moment. I hear anything "American" is flying off the shelves. Can we do something about it? Oh, and do something with the label, yeah?"
"Ok boss. We got something..."
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"Does it say [i]Atlantic[/i]"
"Yes"
"That'll do lads. The punters will fall for that."
[quote=CaptainFlashheart said]I'm currently drinking a Thornbridge Jaipur.
IPA with no fixies involved.
Off to a beer festival tomorrow where Jaipur's on cask 🙂
Jaipur X was a special thing, shame it's not become a regular from them.
Jaipur...bit over-rated. Was novel a few years ago, but has been left behind by newer taste sensations recently. Some of their other stuff is vile. But hey, £2.50 a bottle in Waitrose - must be special.
I've got 20 litres of a session strength Jaipur-alike almost ready to bottle... Smells amazing.
Not keen on their Kipling though. Tastes like grass, and I mean the stuff that cows eat
They also do a fairly disgusting white ale don't they? Is that the Kipling or Chiron?
I quite like Chiron but I think that's quite a dark one so maybe not that. I'm not keen on Weiss/wheat bears so wouldn't normally go near one. Wild Swan? Kipling is a pale ale with Nelson Sauvin hops, which I really don't like. Tastes like hay
Raven is the dark IPA they do, I think.
Ah, Wild Swan...that's the one. It's not a Weissbier...just some shite concoction they came up with. Not pleasant at all.
OMG Squatters FTW! 😛
DD - have you tried Butcombe's Great Grey Owl? It's lovely!
Founders All Day IPA for me this weekend - big box arrived the other day
It's a nice lightweight IPA for delicate little flowers like me
Opening post contained the keyword 'crafted'.
Binners usually blows up at such hipster labels, canny believe he's missed that one. Must be a long queue in Greggs this morning.
Jaipur is lovely stuff, but that Yorkshire ipa up there is pretty poor, had a bottle in Harrogate last week.
Aldo tonight for a wee Williams brothers selection.
DD - have you tried Butcombe's Great Grey Owl? It's lovely!
Nope, but it's on the list now. 😀
(I loike their Haka too!)
Can't really compare White Swan to Jaipur. I mean look at the ABV
Can't really compare White Swan to Jaipur. I mean [s]look at the ABV[/s] one is like nectar and the other is a vile abomination
FTFY
some friends and I did a beer brewing day/course at london beer labs in Brixton in the summer. They take you through the process, helping you brew the sort of thing you want to drink, selecting the right blend of malts and hops. plenty of beers drunk along the way, sessions outside in the sunshine while the mash does its thing, more beers drunk (great selection there to buy), more chat about malting, styles of beer, how and why.
Into tubs at the end of the day, back 3 weeks later to bottle and take em away.
We said we fancied a pale ale, west coast US style - Sierra Nevada/Lagunitas.
I forget quite what went in it, but it's god damn delicious! We were hoping for something acceptable, but it's actually very good indeed. Still got half a dozen bottles at home, somehow. Mmmm. Maybe not for too much longer.
Can't really compare White Swan to Jaipur[s]. I mean look at the ABV[/s] as they are entirely different styles
as they are entirely different styles
It's only page 2! 😀
It's incredibly easy to make a beer which is better than the vast majority of what you can buy in a supermarket (there's a monster homebrew thread on here if you want some inspiration!) A lot of supermarket beers are the equivalent of ready meals - mass produced, cheap ingredients, corners cut, etc. When you make it yourself you're free of all the commercial constraints plus you can make exactly the type of beer you like. Just like cooking really.I forget quite what went in it, but it's god damn delicious! We were hoping for something acceptable, but it's actually very good indeed.
Yep. As above!
I'm currently experimenting with brewing some rich winter beers.
Fixed Wheel Brewery also a couple of IPA's No Brakes and Black Carbon, very nice they are too!
but that Yorkshire ipa up there is pretty poor, had a bottle in Harrogate last week.
Yeah, it wasn't brilliant, I like their Tether Blond Pale Ale, but wasn't overly impressed with that IPA.
Sierra Nevada Torpedo is rather nice, but at 7.1% ABV it's not exactly lightweight 😉
I do like the Founders All Day IPA too
I much prefer Torpedo to their regular Pale Ale (which I find very average) so will have to track down some Hop Hunter!
To be honest since getting into craft beers (especially US & Scandinavian), 7% is worryingly normal. I've had a lot of exceptional, dangerously drinkable, beers in the 10-15% range! Good thing they come in small bottles (or big bottles to share!)
Not sure what I will be sampling exactly, but as I'm camping in Masham for the weekend, it may have to be either Theakstons or Black Sheep, or both (probably both).
We even have a good forecast.
Sometimes life is so hard 😀
If you happen to find yourself in a Greene King pub, they have their own brand "IPA" on tap at the minute.
Avoid at all costs. It's dire.
[quote=torsoinalake said]If you happen to find yourself in a Greene King pub, they have their own brand "IPA" on tap at the minute.
Avoid at all costs. It's dire.
Is that the bog standard Greene King "IPA" (which is dire), or another concoction ?
Greene King IPA has been there for ever, they recently revamped the pump clip though.
nearly caught me out in a strange pub a few weeks back
Hey Peterfile, did you say you won a brewing competition earlier...?
Unfortunately a lot of people who work in pubs these days seem to lack the fundamental skills required to store/dispense beer properly so even if GK IPA were any good (to be fair I'd say it was mediocre rather than dire!) the chance of getting a decent pint out of a tap is small. That's the main reason I stick to bottles these days, unless I know the a fact the pub I'm in can pull a good pint - or it's straight from the cask (the ideal scenario!)If you happen to find yourself in a Greene King pub, they have their own brand "IPA" on tap at the minute.Avoid at all costs. It's dire.
^^^^ that is very nice
Bog standard I think. Bog being the operative word.Is that the bog standard Greene King "IPA" (which is dire), or another concoction?
This one: http://www.greeneking.co.uk/index.asp?pageid=69
Sounds about right. It definitely looked new.they recently revamped the pump clip though.
Mason's regular gin is... an acquired taste. It was nice at a RHS show in the sun, ice cold, with tonic and lemon. But I later realised it was horrid. Hope the lavender one is palatable.
Marston's Old Empire is a rather nice IPA.
Hey Peterfile, did you say you won a brewing competition earlier...?
Well, I won my category, someone else ended up winning the whole thing.
Great British Homebrew Challenge (Thornbridge/Waitrose comp)
My favourite IPA (and local to me in Bristol)
Wiper & True make some lovely beers, that's a good brewery to have locally!
Well, I won my category, someone else ended up winning the whole thing.
That's great! what was your brew?
Thanks, Clobber 🙂
It was an East India Porter (Barclay Perkins 1859 style)...a lot like Kernel's EIP which was where I got the steer from. Evin from Kernel was actually really helpful when I was trying to decipher and transpose the original grain bill.
I'll dig out the recipe and process at some point over the weekend and stick it up on the brewing thread.
I'll dig out the recipe and process at some point over the weekend and stick it up on the brewing thread
Please do so, cheers
Well done peterfile, I'd like to see that recipe too.
I'm a bit over IPA. There seems to be a competition to pack as many hops in a beer as possible and whack your taste buds around until they're numb. Those type of beers have lost any subtlety.
I've been enjoying beer from here this summer: http://www.britt.fr
The Rousse is particularly nice. I haven't found them in Britain yet but you can buy them in all supermarkets in Brittany, so we brought a few packs back with us from our holidays. A bit more like Belgian beer than anything else.
I'm a bit over IPA
Amen to that...and to the 6+% stuff.
Amen to that...and to the 6+% stuff.
What those two said.
Mini PSA for those in the (hop) Garden of England... Kent Green Hop fortnight kicks off this weekend. Almost 30 different breweries, all producing one (or more) beers made with freshly picked rather than dried hops. Plenty of IPAs and pales ales of course, but some milds, porters & stouts as well. The main beer festival is in Canterbury this weekend - I may have sampled a few including a great black IPA on my way home - but most proper real ale pubs in Kent should have one or two over the next couple of weeks.
I'm a bit over IPA. There seems to be a competition to pack as many hops in a beer as possible and whack your taste buds around until they're numb. Those type of beers have lost any subtlety.
Drink pale ale then.
For somewhere in the region of 200 years, IPA has differed from traditional pale ales by virtue of its higher alcohol content and hop content. It's supposed to be like that. In fact, it wouldn't be an IPA if it wasn't.
There is also a huge difference between English IPA and American IPA. Have a look at the [url= http://www.bjcp.org/docs/2008_Guidelines.pdf ]BJCP[/url] style guidelines.
In order to fit the style of an American IPA, the beer must have:
prominent to intense hop aroma...Hop flavor is medium to high...Medium-high to very high hop bitterness
An Imperial IPA (which there are a lot of at the moment) will have:
High to absurdly high hop bitterness














