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iOS 6 is out today I believe. As a self-confessed lover of Apple stuff, I find myself surprisingly un-excited. Maybe it's the fact Google Maps is being removed, which means no more Street View on my iPhone and iPad, that makes me annoyed.
What are the thoughts of other iPhone and iPad users?
Isn't there a google app for those that want to stay with the google way of doing things?
Isn't there a google app...
I've read - in a reasonably well respected Mac magazine - that the Google mobile version of maps won't have Street View. This goes beyond the Google Way or the Apple Way. Street View is a genuinely impressive and genuinely useful tool and removing it will be a great blow I reckon.
vector based maps will be very useful, though.
Do they force you to upgrade[?] the OS?
How do you get street view on iPhones etc at the moment? Didn't know you could. Where's the option on the maps app?
You don't have to upgrade though? I use street view a lot, would buy an app if possible.
They don't force you to upgrade - but will try to sneak in an update opportunity if you're not careful.
grum - Member
How do you get street view on iPhones etc at the moment? Didn't know you could. Where's the option on the maps app?
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From the purple pin on your map click the icon with the white man on orange background. It goes to street view.
I won't update iOS if I will lose street view as its a useful tool, unless of course there is an app.
Every day is a school day. Cheers. I've found out about it just in time to miss it when it's gone. 🙂
Surely there wil be an app?
How do you get streetview on the maps app in OS5 then?
How do you get streetview on the maps app in OS5 then?
click the icon with the white man on orange background. It goes to street view.
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You don't have to upgrade though?
True. Fortunately there's not much "wow" in iOS 6 so I'll hang fire until I know Street View is available again. I probably won't miss it as much on the iPhone, but I use it extensively on the iPad.
You can always downgrade via iTunes if you don't like it.
For me, turn by turn navigation will be worth it alone.
You can always downgrade via iTunes if you don't like it.
You have never been able to downgrade iOS via iTunes.*
*Leaving SHSH/JB stuff aside.
Downgrading via iTunes is a bitch to do - not for the inexperienced!
For me, turn by turn navigation will be worth it alone
I use - and am happy with - navfree for that. The maps are stored on the device too, which means I don't need to worry about network connection. I can't imagine iOS 6 comes with a load of maps pre-installed 😯
Here are the things I am looking forward to in IOS6:
- Turn by turn navigation
- Vector maps
- Maps flyover view (although not sure how much of UK is covered)
- Shared photo streams
- Decline calls with message
- iCloud stored browser tabs
- Offline web page reading
- Full screen web pages
*waits for someone to go on about how android has had all these features for twenty years and how glad they are to be immune from marketing hype, unlike the 'sheeple'.
I use - and am happy with - navfree for that.
I used to use Navfree and it was ok for a while but then went completely mental so I uninstalled it. Never tried it again since.
I have TomTom on my iphone if I need turn by turn but my car has it anyway so not needed (I have used it in cities though when on foot or on the bike with headphones). The big problem with the ios6 maps app by all accounts is its lack of accuracy in locating places. Seems a quite basic bit of functionality but I rely on the iphone map app to find shops, restaurants, bars etc when I don't have a precise address so it could be interesting with this new one.
Every day is a school day. Cheers. I've found out about it just in time to miss it when it's gone.
Snap.
Bugger. Wish I'd not opened this thread now! 😉
Here are the things I am looking forward to in IOS6:
For me it's just the tab syncing. I already have Navigon/TomTom for sat-nav, and full screen safari, with gestures, via a JB tweak.
When is the update available?
Some time today. Don't think they have said what time exactly.
Google are apparently releasing a map app not sure when or how much though?
About 10am PST so, 6pm or so in the UK
Here's something else you may miss out from having on your Apple device, the right to film...
http://www.prisonplanet.com/apple-granted-patent-to-disable-cameras-according-to-location.html
SO why does ANYBODY Still own a SPYPHONE…. Because they are SHEEPLE.
And the SHEEPLE won’t be protesting about anything important anyway.
YEAH!!!
About 10am PST so, 6pm or so in the UK
Where did you hear that? Or is that just the time they usually release updates?
Here's something else you may miss out from having on your Apple device, the right to film...
Oh noes! Wait can they disbale my DSLR and Headcame too, oh wait no.
Phew panic over.
But your phone is more likely to be to hand than camera gear, which it would be easier for Them to spot you using...
Oh noes! Wait can they disbale my DSLR and Headcame too, oh wait no.Phew panic over.
Looking at past events in the middle east the ability to take pics and upload them as things are happening has been quite useful. A state that can turn off mobile cameras when they want to has a powerful tool. A camera can be found/smashed/taken a mobile can bounce the image out easily.
Of course they would only use it when it was really needed though.
But your phone is more likely to be to hand than camera gear, which it would be easier for Them to spot you using...
Whatever one is in your hand?
They usually release stuff around 10am local to them, so 6pm UK time.
This is not official, just going by previous releases.
Slight hijack:
Rather than starting my own thread and being called every name under the sun, what do y'all think my chances are of buying an iP5 from the Reading Apple store on my way home on Friday?
Slim to none?
... and slim just left town.
LOL!
As I thought. Might give it a shot though, it's not out of my way really....
Worth a try, can you not order and reserve pick up at the store from Apple site?
Can someone report on whether anything runs slower on an iPhone4 (non-S) with the new OS.
ios5 was a tad slower than 4, but still perfectly fast. But wouldn't want things to start chugging.
Whenever I do an os upgrade on a phone, I *always* do a factory reset before the upgrade - then again, after the upgrade.
Only need to do it once, so worth taking the time IMHO
iPhone 3GS - iOS 5 was snappier (perceived to be faster overall to the user...) than iOS 4 to me.
Driving the Google Street View car looks like fuuuuuuu...ooooohhh...shiiiiit!
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Crap, I've only just discovered it too!
The ios5 to ios6 upgrade can be done over the air so no more 2 hours of chugging itunes followed by hours of waiting for activation
I cycled past a street view car last month. I was excited about my riding being featured on street view, until i noticed the driver was parked and eating his lunch.
ohnohesback - Member
Here's something else you may miss out from having on your Apple device, the right to film...
Airplane mode?
The update is now available to download
OMG! OMG! OMG!
I checked 10 minutes ago and wasn't there so just popped up.
The big problem with the ios6 maps app by all accounts is its lack of accuracy in locating places. Seems a quite basic bit of functionality but I rely on the iphone map app to find shops, restaurants, bars etc when I don't have a precise address so it could be interesting with this new one.
I've seen this, from an American who just seems to have issues with it. Seeing as how the info comes from TomTom, and other sources, I can't imagine it'll be any less accurate than TomTom on the iPhone.
I never use Google for navigation anyway, too much of a hassle having to rely on a data connection and hammering my data allowance.
can you not order and reserve pick up at the store from Apple site?
Nope. Checked that out already. Preorder online/over phone is for home delivery only, and that's expected to be 2nd week in October. Which is fine, but I'll be away that week.
I'm not really in a rush, but I might have some spare time and proximity to n Apple store in my favour. I'll give it a shot. Gotta be in to win! 🙂
The update to iOS 6 was surprisingly quick for a 900mb download and no problems verifying like iOS 5.
Safari is bloody quick.
IMHO the maps app is crap, I used to use it for searching locally, the new app is rubbish,
No searching,
No street view
Not good, roll on the google app ,
You can search in the search bar at the top.
Looks very nice but yes poor 3D coverage means lack of street view. Be good when Google release there's.
The Apple Maps satellite pic of my house is at least eight years old. Mmm, progress. At least the update was nice and easy.
Where's YouTube gone?
the app store.
MHO the maps app is crap, I used to use it for searching locally, the new app is rubbish,
No searching,
How ya mean no searching?
yeh wheres YOUTUBE gone??!!
Maps don't seem as good : (
since O'Darc isn't on, I have to ask....
...does it have flash?
Maps don't seem as good : (
In what way?
does siris now cover uk bussiness?
The Apple Maps satellite pic of my house is at least eight years old
You're lucky if you can tell that, the satellite pic of our area is in such low resolution that you can't see the road, never mind something as small as a house.
I can't even see our village and the nearest town is the vaguest of images in the satellite view. Aside from turn by turn this seems to be a retrograde step of about 10 years on the mapping front. Will assign icon to my not in use folder when the google arrives.
So it seems this slapfest between Apple and Google has been really great for consumers. Won't be updating till I'm back from Germany but some of the map images being posted on the web seem, well, a bit shit. Shirley google maps will be free won't it?
Drac - Moderator
You can search in the search bar at the top.Looks very nice but yes poor 3D coverage means lack of street view. Be good when Google release [u][b]there's.[/b][/u]
Posted from an apple device? 😉
The more I use it the worse it gets. Just tried finding my mother's house in the highlands. Postcode is not recognised , the name of the hamlet is not there and the A road near it has had the road number removed and replaced with the word "highland". Highland seems to be the name of a lot of roads according to Apple! The satellite image is just a green pixelated blur. There is no way you could find her house with this app.
No idea if it's better in the states but Apple should be ashamed to have released this without more investment first.
Lets highlight some good map apps to fill the gap then.
These are all free (or maybe 69p):
NavFree - turn by turn directions, maps stored on device so no data needed
Waze - turn by turn and peer-to-peer live traffic info
MotionX GPS - multiple map styles with ability to download to device and navigate by gps waypoints (good for MTBing)
CycleStreets/BikeHub - route planning and turn-by-turn specifically for bikes
Cycle Network - full Sustrans maps
Yup, my 4s is staying with iOS5 for the considerable future. Not least since (thanks to this thread) I've only just discovered streetview!
Posted from an apple device?
Yup with added dyslexia it's spells dizarseta.
The Apple maps are just awful. Just looking within 500m of where I live, the vast majority of things are wrong. The street layout is fine but the things I use the maps for like finding bars or petrol stations near where I am are useless. Apple insists there are two petrol stations within 200m of my flat, one in the middle of a pedestrian zone, one in a wooded park; neither are there.
Luckily I can tether my Nexus tablet to my phone, or use TomTom or use my in-car satnav. Waiting for the Google app.
The Apple maps use TomTom so that's interesting, I never really used my for navigating anyway. I find any Satnav a pain in the backside so use the fashioned method of looking on a map.
So it seems this slapfest between Apple and Google has been really great for consumers. Won't be updating till I'm back from Germany but some of the map images being posted on the web seem, well, a bit shit. Shirley google maps will be free won't it?
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Not just in this arena though. The GPS logging software I use on the Mac, [url= http://www.rubitrack.com ]Rubitrack[/url], is losing Google maps in the next big upgrade, and switching to OSM. Which means I have gone from seeing what trail I just run, to what city I was near...if I am lucky. Google have every right to charge for their software, but it seems they don't have tiered charges for smaller developers, as the guy who makes the software stated that if he paid what Google, and Bing, wanted, then it would put them out of business straight away.
Grrrr!
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I am going to to stick with 5.1.1 for the foreseeable. Never sure why people rush to upgrade to a new OS, whether mobile or desktop. Especially when it's a one way process for most.
Part of me thinks that Google have been very canny in their business modelling. Provide (at low cost or free) a service, improve it so it becomes almost indispensable and a part of many peoples' software and daily routines, then ramp the price up whilst offering you own alternatives only available on Google platforms. Hmmmm
Drac - They used a hybrid of TomTom, Wase and some company they bought. My guess is they bought base maps from TomTom (those are correct so far at least) and have sourced POIs etc from elsewhere.
then ramp the price up whilst offering you own alternatives only available on Google platforms.
Not that I think Google are averse to screwing people over, but I don't think any useful service from Google that started free has gone paid?
then ramp the price up whilst offering you own alternatives only available on Google platforms
Google = Ad revenue
So, there will be no charge, just increased adverts/data mining.
A temporary measure.
If you have iOS 6 on your phone, point your Safari browser to maps.google.com and click the export button in the middle of the menu bar to save the app to your homescreen. Once installed, you'll now see "Google Maps" on your homescreen complete with its own appropriately designed app icon.
but I don't think any useful service from Google that started free has gone paid?
That probably depends on what charges (nominal or not) have always been in place for third-party developers using their maps. Clearly those charges appear to be increasing (or other restrictions are being imposed) otherwise iPhone users would have had the same maps experience as android users, and the software company in Jamie's example wouldn't be having to change supplier.
What I was getting at was this: until a few years ago, few of us knew we wanted or "needed" high resolution satellite photos of everywhere we're ever likely to go, with location information for shops and restaurants to boot.
EDIT:
So, there will be no charge, just increased adverts/data mining.
Presumably there is now an increased charge to the company you were using as an example, else their next version of software would still use google?