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Well, almost upon us.

Rain hampering practice, so lots of gossip filling the TV.

Guy on a new Honda, McGuinness out due to a bad accident, all the other favourites being favoured.

I'll say Hutchie.. for the big boys race and a couple of others too.


 
Posted : 01/06/2017 8:20 pm
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Depends on when it stops raining long enough tbh; looks out window "no, not yet; probably ok tomorrow"

And seeing the coppers i know on TT Blues...


 
Posted : 01/06/2017 9:15 pm
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Can't see past Hutchy or Bruce for the SBK & Senior race.As an outside choice I think both Hickman & Harrison should go well.
Due to the lack of practice both Honda & Suzuki will struggle with their new bikes..
I'd love to see the Norton win,it's the best sounding bike there & they seem more competitive each year.


 
Posted : 01/06/2017 10:04 pm
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Michael Dunlop in the senior and superbike. He's the closet to the edge of all the riders for me.
I'd like to see Guy Martin go well too, he's been playing things down since March.


 
Posted : 01/06/2017 10:19 pm
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i suspect hutchy and dunlop will get most wins but like to see Bruce Ansty go well, and Guy. Guy ought to be quick riding a Honda, surely?


 
Posted : 01/06/2017 10:27 pm
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It's 2.40am and we're sitt By waiting on the Manannan (ferry) in Liverpool waiting to leave for the TT.
It's our 4th time. I can't wait!


 
Posted : 02/06/2017 1:41 am
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Guys Honda hasn't had much track time so I can't see him doing very well on it this year, I think he'll probably win the Zero/electric race though. Otherwise I think a few each for Hutchy and M Dunlop


 
Posted : 02/06/2017 5:40 am
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Fingers crossed for Brucey.
The RCV might just surprise everyone.

Michael on a new bike, Guy treating it as a development ride, can't see past Hutchy for a big week, tbh.


 
Posted : 02/06/2017 7:07 am
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Hutchinson to dominate.


 
Posted : 02/06/2017 7:42 am
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I'm going with hutchy for a big week, think Dunlop might get a win in somewhere though.


 
Posted : 02/06/2017 7:47 am
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It's 2.40am and we're sitt By waiting on the Manannan (ferry) in Liverpool waiting to leave for the TT.

I'll be making the same journey Tuesday night.Looking forward to hearing that Norton again!


 
Posted : 02/06/2017 8:37 am
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Posted : 02/06/2017 8:38 am
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Heading over Tuesday night, hoping the weather picks up.
Hutchy & Dunlop mainly, fancy Dean Harrison for a few podiums, old boy Rutter could get to the top step as well!


 
Posted : 02/06/2017 9:45 am
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I'm actually on the Isle of Man for work at the moment, but due to the rubbish weather yesterday I'm not going to be able to see any as I'm flying back this afternoon 🙁


 
Posted : 02/06/2017 10:50 am
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Anywhere to watch it online?


 
Posted : 02/06/2017 11:45 am
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Anywhere to watch it online?

Coverage on ITV 4 every night. There's enough people around the course to Facebook live it, would be great to see cooperation amongst fans to do a live stream.

Doesn't look like the new Honda is up to speed, so Guy will have plenty to moan about. Think it'll be Michael and Hutchy dominating again.
Bruce to win the electrics and maybe in the mix in Superbike and senior as it sounds like he's happy with the RCV.


 
Posted : 02/06/2017 12:25 pm
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Good superbike race today. Not massively fast but close. Guy looked properly shaken up by his very early crash.


 
Posted : 04/06/2017 9:22 pm
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120mph and getting a neutral on the downshift, and walking away with some bruises is very lucky.
I wouldn't be keen to get back on that honda after 3 crashes with it.


 
Posted : 04/06/2017 9:44 pm
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I'd been wondering where the TT thread was!
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I don't think Mr Honda will be too happy with Guy's gear selector comment being publicised. As said, Mcguinness' NW200 accident was a bit unexplained and on a fairly strange place on the circuit, and John doesn't just fall off. I reckon Guy will have been pissed off when Brucey got the electric ride - I hope Guy has been sand bagging in practice, as if not it is surly Bruce's race to loose.
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Shame about Johnston, as he was going well in practice. Pleased to see Harrison and Hickman in contention, hopefully they will keep it up for the rest of the week.
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Im sure Michael Dunlop will be back at the front for the next big bike race with the new Suzuki suprisingly well on the pace, but Hutchinson is consistent. The weather will spice it up...
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But... surly everyone is hoping William Dunlop will make his mark the 600s?!


 
Posted : 04/06/2017 10:14 pm
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McGuiness won't come out and say his crash was caused by the gear shift on the Honda, but he implied it by saying he's only had two crashes in his career and neither were to do with rider error.
If a bike isn't right to race it shouldn't be raced, certainly not on the island.


 
Posted : 05/06/2017 7:41 am
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I'm a huge fan of the TT but not a motorcyclist myself.

In layman terms what happened with Guys's bike - or is suspected happened?

Would getting a neutral cause the bike to loose grip?

The onboard footage made it look like the bike was squirming around but i presumed that was under braking.


 
Posted : 05/06/2017 7:47 am
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In layman terms what happened with Guys's bike - or is suspected happened?

Would getting a neutral cause the bike to loose grip?


What happens is with a motorcycle when slowing down you use the engine as a brake.When you hit a false neutral you lose the braking.When racing this is more critical than on the road as you're nearer the limit.You can dial in the amount of engine braking with a slipper clutch & electronics,it's a bit irrelevant though if the bike's in neutral
There's no gate on a motorcycle gearbox,it's sequential & goes 1 N 2 3 4 5 6 You hit a false neutral when downshifting,say between 4th to 3rd,release the clutch & the engine braking should slow you down,but obviously if it's not engaged 3rd gear you're in a false neutral & no engine braking...
HTH


 
Posted : 05/06/2017 8:14 am
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Thanks Bustaspoke.

Oof - no wonder Honda aren't a happy bunch!


 
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Posted : 05/06/2017 9:24 am
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They should not have interviewed Guy, the man was evidently still shaken up and is a bit of a handful in interviews anyway!

So lucky to walk away from his off..


 
Posted : 05/06/2017 9:55 am
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Looks like he bailed it in order to keep him in the road and not into the wall!


 
Posted : 05/06/2017 10:02 am
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No Guy in the first Supersport...
Perhaps saving the wrist for the electric bike?


 
Posted : 05/06/2017 1:57 pm
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Glad he's ok.

Can always trust Guy to tell it how it is!

He's obviously shuck up by it, and maybe a bit disappointed? I think I'd be very nervous of riding that bike after that, and what happened to JM, so that's his senior TT over really? 🙁


 
Posted : 05/06/2017 3:06 pm
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Dunlop conked out too, and he was in there for the win (sorry Guy, just keeping it real 8) .

No one is talking about the gixxer being a dud though. The big thing, IMO, is that the blade is slow. This is a bigger deal than eating its gearbox. All bikes break but being slow is serious.

Martin should retire. So should big John. Not because of karma because that's irrational nonsense. John should retire because he's done it all. Martin should because his real talent lies elsewhere. All IMO of course.


 
Posted : 05/06/2017 5:15 pm
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Sidecar into the crowd at the Hairpin. Not seen it in the news, so hopefully all okay.


 
Posted : 05/06/2017 8:05 pm
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Hairpin is one of the slowest parts of the course, so hopefully everyone is ok.


 
Posted : 05/06/2017 8:58 pm
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My Mum's fella is a big TT fan and motorbiker (or he was, he's now in his 70's). Apparently recently Hutchie picked up his plastic carrier bag in Argos, the old man "Oi, that's my carrier bag you thieving..... Hey, don't I know you?". Made his day.


 
Posted : 05/06/2017 10:27 pm
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Just watched the highlights on ITV4, Jesus it's been brutal , RIP to the fallen racers


 
Posted : 07/06/2017 9:05 pm
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3 dead racers so far 🙁

Was rather upsetting to hear on tonight's ITV4 programme


 
Posted : 07/06/2017 9:07 pm
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My thoughts too. I've not really followed it but just watching the super sports (?) tonight my eyes almost couldn't keep up on the telly! Madness, incredibly gifted madness. I don't ride a motorcycle but I love the Moto GP but the whole TT thing is 😯


 
Posted : 07/06/2017 9:12 pm
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We stayed in the IOM last month for the Isle of Man Youth Tour (cycling). I have never been before and was pretty taken back with some of the course.

They were putting up padding on walls, trees, sign posts.... Some of the bends were pretty scary, there is one massive sweeping one as you come off of the high peak that they must be flat out on, Christ knows what speed they must be doing.

In the cottage we were staying in there were several photo's of a rider with messages to his family. I asked the owner and it was his step son (Dan Kneen - I had to look him up as I am not a follower of the sport). I asked him how the hell they deal with watching him ride the TT. He said they just have to get involved with it, his mum one of the senior marhsalls.

It is bad enough watching the kids doing their bike racing, I cannot imagine what it must be like watching one of your kids riding the TT.

I have watched some of the on-board footage and I do not know how the human brain can process things quick enough to navigate the route.


 
Posted : 07/06/2017 9:34 pm
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+1 to last night's ITV4 coverage being pretty sobering 😥 brings it home to you how much these guys are risking


 
Posted : 08/06/2017 6:59 am
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@Eskay - Dan comes across really well, he's one of my favourites, I remember him being gutted that this was caught on camera because he didn't want his mom to see it.


 
Posted : 08/06/2017 8:55 am
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Was hoping for a 120mph in the Zero TT but not to be. Hardly surprising given lack of practice and amount of rain.


 
Posted : 09/06/2017 11:37 am
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amazing result for UoN!


 
Posted : 09/06/2017 11:43 am
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Indeed!


 
Posted : 09/06/2017 12:08 pm
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Senior all course Red flag, due to incident at the 27th. Hutchinson didnt make it to the Bungalow so not looking good for him although little information coming through at the moment.


 
Posted : 09/06/2017 3:13 pm
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Helicopter to hospital with leg injuries. Could be a career defining moment after his previous issues.


 
Posted : 09/06/2017 3:22 pm
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lets just hope its the other leg


 
Posted : 09/06/2017 3:23 pm
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MCN are reporting that it's a broken femur, so bad, but not something that he's broken before, so hopefully repairable.


 
Posted : 09/06/2017 4:03 pm
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lets just hope its the other leg

Given how he walks now (its not pretty) I don't think it would make much difference if its his femur, fair play to the lad though he's very driven and will no doubt be back.

I last rode a sports bike GSX750 back in 94 and sold it as I lost a few friends to the thrill of speed, still massive admiration of those that can ride them to their limit but it scares me watching it.


 
Posted : 09/06/2017 5:47 pm
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Dunlop conked out too, and he was in there for the win

I'm not so sure he was. He wasn't doing too well in the senior until the restart either. He'd have been there or thereabouts I guess, but the stoppage helped him.
In the Superbike he konked out as he came up to our spot at Cronk y Voddy. It was a bit worrying as you hear the bike approaching, going through the gears and getting louder......then silence...... the. He comes quite fast round the corner coasting with the engine off!


 
Posted : 15/06/2017 12:18 pm
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Must watch, Hickman on the HP4, number 001 build. Footage is pretty unreal!


 
Posted : 16/06/2017 12:44 pm
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Wow


 
Posted : 16/06/2017 1:04 pm
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Bit like Dunlop's on board last year, incredible but really uncomfortable viewing.


 
Posted : 16/06/2017 1:14 pm
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I crapped myself at the Hillier save:


 
Posted : 16/06/2017 1:17 pm
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Not sure how much he had to do with saving that, looks like he was a passenger while the bike was deciding whether to spit him off or not!


 
Posted : 16/06/2017 1:24 pm
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He managed to hold on, I think that's all you can do at that speed and probably easier said than done.


 
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Guy Martin's on track at the Biker's classics @ Spa this weekend.Riding a couple of Suzuki's,inluding a Katana in the 4HR Endurance race.
Apparently Hutchy's crash was caused by a deflating front tyre,but Dunlop re-inflated it after the event & it stayed inflated so they said the wheel was faulty.


 
Posted : 27/06/2017 9:58 pm

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