[Closed] insulate britain protester shoved with a car

Ah, Sarf Essex, I miss it so.

"normals"?

You're entirely missing the point. She has a Range Rover!

Range rovers essential for school runs tbf

Shame they pixilated the number plate, it is (or was) untaxed.

Probably upset cos its not a proppa Range Rover.
Massive display of self entitlement by ALL concerned

I've got to say that I'm humbled by what these protestors are willing to put up with for their cause. Serious respect due.

( obviously I'd be more conflicted if it were my roads they were blocking)

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Fat cow.

I get why “normals” get a bit irritated by insulate britain crusties

A bit? Having someone completely trap you on the road as part of their protest to somehow send a message to the government/media/world, making you a completely helpless pawn in their game, while at the same time causing you financial expense?

I'd be livid too, especially if I was unfortunate enough to be in the front row. I wouldn't use my car to push them, but only because its got a number plate and they undoubtedly have cameras running.

but only because its got a number plate and they undoubtedly have cameras running

So you would drive over somebody who was inconveniencing you if you could get away with it? nice.

“normals”?

Takes a level of dedication one way or another to glue yourself to the middle of the road.

Average Middle of the road man (ironically) doesnt get worked up about it, keeps his head down and lets the status quo wash over him.

Not saying hes right, just.... middle of bell curve. a Normal. Average. Ordinary.

'slag antlers'. Love 'em.

Takes a level of dedication one way or another to glue yourself to the middle of the road.

takes a level of dedication one way or another to try to run over a protester in a car with a numberplate on too 😀

when idiots collide..

They are disrupting the lives of the wrong people. It's Westminster They should be blockading, not the people going about their normal lives. I'd be mighty pissed off if they stopped me seeing my daughter (most common reason for a drive). However, the obviously self entitled bint in the "only important people drive one" Range Rover went too far in response and deserves to be charged and banned.

I’ve got to say that I’m humbled by what these protestors are willing to put up with for their cause. Serious respect due.

Once we've all accepted that climate change is real and we can't carry on driving range rovers (add your polluting behavour of choice here) we're going to look back on these protestors as visionaries and with disbelief that we didn't all get behind them.

So you would drive over somebody who was inconveniencing you if you could get away with it? nice.

"inconveniencing" is being behind a bike, or an elderly person slowly shuffling over a zebra crossing. Both things I'd happily wait for, part and parcel of living on a little island with 60 million others.

Someone deliberately blocking roads making me an unwilling part of their protest, as I explained in the rest of my post, is a different kettle of fish.

Urgh the comments, and the people heard in the vid shouting encouragement.

Maybe your son could walk/cycle to school if there wasn't so many angry people in Range Rovers about eh.

She should be charged for that. Clearly crossed the line of civilised behaviour.

Genuine question - how else are they meant to get heard? Polite protest outside downing street (300m away) will not even be reported.

They are disrupting the lives of the wrong people. It’s Westminster They should be blockading, not the people going about their normal lives.

Exactly this. Westminster are just laughing at them . They know the general public are pissed off with them so why would they dance to their tune.

Takes a level of dedication one way or another to glue yourself to the middle of the road.

Yet, funny you dont see them out when its pissing down do you, what with them being so dedicated to the cause 🙄

Neither was right but the woman in the car was clearly much more in the wrong here.

Seems to have become very much a class thing, this enviro-protesting. The more 'hardcore' activists seem to be mostly white, middle class people who obviously don't have to be at work etc. The XR mob who disrupted Tube services just enraged everyone who was just trying to get to work to pay the bills to survive. As just one example; a friend was en route to a court hearing for a very vulnerable kid, which then had to be delayed as he couldn't attend, which affected not only that child, but several others involved, and cost many thousands of pounds of largely taxpayers' money. Multiply such things by hundreds, thousands, tens of thousands etc, and it has a very negative impact on all of society. And does nothing to win people over. Previously sympathetic people have now been turned off by XR etc, so it's been a largely negative campaign. Lose-lose. It's only those in a position of some privilege, who can 'protest' in such a manner. Not that many can afford to take such an amount of time ff work, or the expensive lawyers needed. And didn't one of the XR founders fly to Mexico for a yoga retreat or something? Right.

That doesn't excuse the assaults that we're seeing by irate people who've been delayed. I love how the aggressive actions of the bloke pulling protestors out of the road, are utterly futile, as they keep shuffling back into position. 😀 As for the Range Rover woman; proof if it were even needed, that many shouldn't be driving cars anyway. 2 types of self-entitlement going on their, but she's by far the worst.

Somewhere in the middle, there is a better solution. But this type of shit just ain't working.

Urgh the comments, and the people heard in the vid shouting encouragement.

Really? Why am I not surprised TBH.

It's a tricky one. As much as they've a right to peaceful protest & they are making valid points - antagonising those whose minds you are trying to change isn't the way forward. Get up to Westminster & get in a few faces there. Upsetting the 'normals' & getting in the way of their (mostly) lawful business isn't going to win you any support & the Gov must be p1ssing themselves with laughter as at every turn they just alienate themselves & whole climate change cause further.

Genuine question – how else are they meant to get heard? Polite protest outside downing street (300m away) will not even be reported.

Sure, but the current tactics are only angering the kind of people you'd need to be winning over, and turning public opinion against you. So that's not working very well, is it?

I feel a tipper truck full of "extra" pig carcasses dumped as close to parliament or number 10 as possible might be an effective protest.

Plus points for being a bit "EU"!

Not sure really, we are all talking about it at least. It was not an issue I was super aware of before. In a way its been more effective then all the XR protests as they have a clear demand.

Nobody of any use to society ever got out of a Range Rover.

If you find climate change protesters excessively annoying, you're going to really love climate change

It'll end up with someone actually getting hurt unfortunately. When someone even less civilised and more able or more prepared to use force to let out their frustration.
Wether it's following through with the shove or an old fashioned kicking.

It's untaxed. The office in the background identifies the location so I've reported it. Hopefully she'll get fined for that at least.

Neither party come out looking good.

The front offside tyre looks bald (vid at 37secs)

I have a lot of sympathy for the Insulate Britain protests but I feel their actions are just driving a wedge between citizens, the same citizens they actually need to support them and their protests. Insulate Britain really need to start inconveniencing politicians and making them take notice rather than folks that are just going about their daily business. I fear somebody is going to get seriously hurt or worse before too long.

Carefully curated clip by Insulate full of powerful symbolism. If they are only half as sophisticated at XR they will have worked out their sympathetic audience and be commissioning social media to put it on their timelines to get them riled. Building to COP26.

I have a lot of sympathy for the Insulate Britain protests but ......I fear somebody is going to get seriously hurt or worse before too long.

i dare say that many people said that sort of thing about the suffragettes. I'm not convinced Insulate Britain are achieving what they want to achieve but I am certain that if they've made a complaint to the police about the range rover driver that she'll be in court, either for assault or dangerous driving (or both).

The front offside tyre looks bald.

We talking bout the car ?

As just one example; a friend was en route to a court hearing for a very vulnerable kid, which then had to be delayed as he couldn’t attend, which affected not only that child, but several others involved, and cost many thousands of pounds of largely taxpayers’ money. Multiply such things by hundreds, thousands, tens of thousands etc, and it has a very negative impact on all of society. And does nothing to win people over.

However much I agree with the cause, this is very valid. MrsMC deals with similar sounding court cases. I seem to recall a series on London Ambulance Service showed them having a nightmare getting to emergency calls due to the XR protests.

I get the need to get publicity, I get that inconvenience might follow, but ****ing up peoples lives and jobs crosses a line.

Road blocked.
Solution - Reverse, do a U turn and go another route.
Problem solved.

Driving right up to the person sitting int he road, then nudging them with the vehicle in an aggressive manner is an assault. But will the police take any action thats the key here and personally I think they'll let that one go with maybe a tut tut and a wag of the finger.

That paper which shall remain nameless has some of the worst comments I've yet seen on there. With talk of either running her over, ie committing murder, or others saying it is justified running them down because they are sitting in the road by choice, therefore anything goes.

That paper ,rag, home to scumbags are driving this level of abuse.

I admit to not driving in London very much. Is there often only one route to school/court/hospital?

They are disrupting the lives of the wrong people. It’s Westminster They should be blockading, not the people going about their normal lives.

you realise it’s the people going about the normal lives that put people in Westminster. They (well, We)  are very much the right people to be the focus of a protest as we put the people in Westminster and we also remove them.

we’re the people who have the power to make change with or without Westminster

Driving right up to the person sitting int he road, then nudging them with the vehicle in an aggressive manner is an assault.

Yeah ... stop sitting in the road or in front of a moving car then.

Wanted: Killfile please.

Well I’m 100% behind the protestors.

So was she 🙂

you realise it’s the people going about the normal lives that put people in Westminster- they / we are very much the right people to be the focus of a protest as we put the people in Westminster and we also remove them.</span>

we’re the people who have the power to make change with or without Westminster

Once every 5 years isn't it?

And after a decade of tory dominated government I don't think putting trust into the wider electorate to think of the greater good is a particularly good plan, do you?

normals”?

IKR?

‘Crusties’?

when idiots collide..

Exactly this. Literally.

I don't know what is the most shocking? Woman driving a Range Rover turns out to be an entitled, obnoxious cow or woman intentionally sat in the middle of the road pisses off someone enough for them to give her a shove with their tractor.

As an aside: what glue are they using? Spraymount? Didn't look up to much

They need to up their game a bit if they want to be taken seriously

And after a decade of tory dominated government I don’t think putting trust into the wider electorate to think of the greater good is a particularly good plan, do you?

13.5 million people voted for the tories and 33.9 million didn't. There are more people who didn't vote than voted tory. The 'wider electorate' is quite a lot of people.

But even then what sway do you have focusing a protest on Westminster when the people inside are able to tell themselves they have the mandate of the people.

Most people don't dive a toss about climate change. Probably because they're working every hour of the day to pay for a massive mortgage/rent/Range Rover. Even people that say they care, probably don't really, they'll wash and separate the yoghurt pots but still go on three foreign holidays a year. So really, it's a bit of a niche issue they're blocking the traffic for. Dunno... we're doomed! Well, not us, but our children's children, maybe.

So really, it’s a bit of a niche issue they’re blocking the traffic for.

Surely that's the point!!

I am 100% against anyone sitting in the road.

If their actions affect others livelihood then they get all they deserve as life is already hard as it is.

Can't say i'm overly impressed with Insulate Britain, they've not really shown any regard for the public, their protest has a negative appearance to the public and it'll be hard to do any good from this, all i can see is that when the government change protest laws again, it'll get backing from more people due to the perception of recent protests like this one.

Reality is what they are after is perfectly reasonable, and i doubt many would disagree, but their plan and implementation is poor.

The irony is all the additional congestion caused and associated extra emissions. All smacks of a lot of look at me aren't I important without any realistic hope of changing anything.

In other idiots protesting news anti lockdown protestors surounded Michael Gove today, not quite sure why they were protesting, lockdowns have finished and if Boris brings them back it won't be for lack of trying not to.

I admit to not driving in London very much. Is there often only one route to school/court/hospital?

Did it not occur to you that in somewhere like London, blocking one route with protesters means that every other route nearby is soon blocked by buses and other vehicles trying to find a way around it?

This driver is clearly an idiot and if I could think of exactly what offence she's committed I hope that the Police take her to town for it.

I know this whole thing with the Range Rover is loaded with irony, but is the ironic mothership not that for the government heat pump plan to work, the houses installing them will need to be much better insulated anyway?

The creature (typical Chafford Hundred mum) driving the Range Rover will be the sort of person that is the entitled idiot that resents being held up by a bike and dealing out a punishment pass. Would the people on here that seem to be agreeing with her have the same attitude if she was behind their bike?

I totally get the inconvenience thing, and I would probably get the hump if I was held up when I had somewhere to be, but I feel they are part of a general movement (along with XR) that is only going to gather pace. I have changed my attitude to these issues during the last 10 years or so.

The problem with protesting near Parliament is that the powers that be (of all colours) will tie up any protest with injunctions, this is why those protesters keep changing the site of their protests as they constantly have to keep ahead of the courts.

The XR protest in London was great for cycling, I moved around so much quicker than normal, covid helped that last year and the first part of this year, but now cycle commuting in London is back to its normal polluted congested dangerous self.

Insulate Britain have lost the plot. If the UK Government gives into their demands, then the next protest group will repeat the tactics and on and on. The tactic worked well at raising their profile, but continuing with it will not change anything. If anything it will just alienate more people and encourage the Government to change the laws.

Insulate Britain are also relying on the law to ensure that they are 'safe' while protesting - by stopping traffic or by stopping frustrated motorists from moving them off the road (just a thought, but if the protestors had glue on them, then glue them to the sides of the road).

The driver is a WGBE for sure. The protestors are annoying just because they’re a bit wishy washy. I agree with their ideals but the chosen method is a bit shit. Go protest on new build estates or a drafty church or something.

I would not care if I was held up, it's not like school, work, family would not understand why I was delayed. I can't imagine being worked up enough to drag someone off the road. All those people will die off heart attacks before climate change effects them.

The more ‘hardcore’ activists seem to be mostly white, middle class people who obviously don’t have to be at work etc.

I think you're right. Maybe it's just the media presenting it that way but the protestors seem to be living a life of leisure with nothing to do midweek except protest and the anti-protestors seems to be working class people trying to get somewhere to earn a crust:

https://www.standard.co.uk/news/london/m25-protester-married-transport-boss-tfl-insulate-britain-b960045.html

when idiots collide

I couldn't have vocalised it as well as that but that's my take, in a nutshell.

Hopefully each will be prosecuted, IANAL but the **** in the Range Rover must have committed a very serious offence, surely? That was seriously reckless and dangerous.

I would not care if I was held up, it’s not like school, work, family would not understand why I was delayed

Let me guess, you're a Paramedic? No? Fireman?

the fat slags

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the protestors are living a life of leisure with nothing to do

And yet they choose to spend their free time on something they believe in that effects us all, particularly the poorest in society, the bastards.

Let me guess, you’re a Paramedic? No? Fireman?

Yes, well they should let those through - pretty stupid.

Driving down the wrong side of the road too no?

Ooh, Fireman! Not heard that job title used for over 30 years… what a blast from the past. Hopefully big Chelsea tractors will be a thing of the past soon too, more space for cycling, walking and children?

Driving down the wrong side of the road too no?

I'd hope they'd get her for something more than a technical driving offence.

Mind you I'd hope the human road blocks get done for obstructing the highway which is also an offense.

Bellends on both sides. Can’t think of anything more intelligent to say, really. Tired of it all.

Protest like this serves very little purpose other than making the protester feel better about themselves. Clickbait personified.

Ooh, Fireman! Not heard that job title used for over 30 years

I'm posting from 1980 so it's fine.

I've got to go now, the Sweeney's on.

but the protestors seem to be living a life of leisure with nothing to do midweek except protest

Or they have burned their annual leave to protest, or they WFH and can finish what they're doing later or any of a number of other scenarios that don't involve a life of leisure. A perfect illustration of being lead by the nose by the 'gutter press'.

Insulate Britain are also relying on the law to ensure that they are ‘safe’ while protesting

I kinda rely on the law to ensure I'm safe too - what's wrong with that?

Or they have burned their annual leave to protest, or they WFH and can finish what they’re doing later or any of a number of other scenarios that don’t involve a life of leisure.

If you can WFH and/or have annual leave to burn you're deffo entitled middle class and well off compared to the people who are dragging them off the road who are clearly out earning a living and can't just WFH and don't have five weeks annual leave plus bank holidays.

Which was exactly my point, you snipped half of it.

It's like the climate protestors have weighed up the pros and cons of modern life and found favour with saving the climate instead.

If you can WFH and/or have annual leave to burn you’re deffo entitled middle class and well off compared to the people who are dragging them off the road who are clearly out earning a living and can’t just WFH and don’t have five weeks annual leave plus bank holidays.

She particularly didn't look like she was on her way to put a shift in anywhere, but it doesn't really matter.

Road blocked.
Solution – Reverse, do a U turn and go another route.
Problem solved.

Yeah, I can see that working, with the traffic stopped dead and vehicles bumper to bumper…
Also, many roads in London are one way, or restricted to certain types of traffic.

If you can WFH and/or have annual leave to burn you’re deffo entitled middle class and well off compared to the people who are dragging them off the road who are clearly out earning a living and can’t just WFH and don’t have five weeks annual leave plus bank holidays.

Which was exactly my point, you snipped half of it.

I can WFH home and have a lot of annual leave accrued due to working lots. Also can’t afford a ****ing Range Rover (or any relatively new car for that matter) so there’s that I suppose

If you can WFH and/or have annual leave to burn you’re deffo entitled middle class and well off compared to the people who are dragging them off the road who are clearly out earning a living and can’t just WFH and don’t have five weeks annual leave plus bank holidays.

What Utter garbage.

but is the ironic mothership not that for the government heat pump plan to work, the houses installing them will need to be much better insulated anyway?

I don't think Boris will be concerned with such piffling details.

I don’t think Boris will be concerned with such piffling details.

Too busy stirring up shite about crusties armed with carrots or somesuch bollocks

Capital not labour.. They are targeting the wrong people, but it is not Westminster they should be blockading. They need to chain themselves to Shell & BP HQ car park entrances and similar.