[Closed] Inktober

Oh and I generally prefer to sketch on tracing paper, unless I have a specific reason not to. It might just be a hangover from doing lots of reworking of character designs and the like, but I do still like the way that takes most mediums.

Another for the set... or platoon.

Target research.

@jimjam
Liking the pencil range, I travel slightly lighter.

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@jimjam
Liking the pencil range, I travel slightly lighter.

If I decide to take a pencil and pad with me I will take literally one pencil. At home I rarely use more than a HB, maybe a 2B and 5 or 6B and maybe the 8B.

So, is using the tele unforgiveable cheating, or acceptable? 😆

tbh I'm just using it to get used to proportions and stuff, I'll eventually ditch it.

Here's an example, how much should I be ashamed of myself? 😆

I'll ink this up over the next few days.

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judging rough values pre inking.

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I will do a freehand version of this afterwards too, I've got a freehand version of the bardot one I did similar to this on the go also.

As a training exercise, useful, or not?

Here's my arsenal.

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pretty sure I've got a box in a cupboard some where that might have some coloured pencils, and other bits and bobs too, maybe some water colours and some brushes. I'll need to look those out, they'll be 20 years old mind you, so may not be worth anything. My brother has some acrylics I can have up his, so might grab those a some point too, out of curiosity.

seosamh77 - Member

So, is using the tele unforgiveable cheating, or acceptable?

In the context of the thread - anything goes imo.

As a training exercise, useful, or not?

Personally speaking, I think it's a backward step and not constructive to technical development. Unless you want to be producing photo-realistic artwork (which is a stale, pointless and reductive enterprise) the ultimate goal is sketch what you see to any level of accuracy you desire, without resorting to other tools.

Very very hard to get there but it can be done. To my mind ( and this is just my opinion) but the process of painting and drawing should start of loose and drill down into detail and finish. Tightness and accuracy should come as a result of focus and work, not be the starting point.

As an analogy, trying to front flip a bike before you can jump.

What do you think?

tbh, I'm with you, which, I think, is why I continually call it cheating, I know myself... I dunno, at the moment though I think there's an aspect a bit of a self gratifying thing, something need to get over, ie doing the reproductive part and trying to impress myself, but there is some thinking behind it too beyond that..

I just know that when I do go totally freehand I have this distortion issue that I really need to fix, so it's not so I can always create photo realistic stuff, or even attempt to get to that level(which I'm far away from), and it's not where I want to be. I want to have a more expressive style, so as mentioned, I'm doing a couple traced and then doing freehand versions afterwards. Just to train myself into understanding likeness.

Dunno, it's not something I'll continue much longer, as I say the only reason is that I'm aware of a certain deficiency I have, so just curious to see if doing a couple of these will help fix it.

I guess the proof is in the pudding, next time I do one completely freehand from scratch, I guess I'll see if there's been any improvement. It's only for these portraits, as well, likeness is key I think, with other things, less recognisable things, tbh I really don't care whether something looks exactly the same, a subject is really just reference there, as it should be.

I take your point about trying to jump ahead too fast, noted on that.

I should also mention I'll never try and hide methods used, if I used a trace to begin something, I'll say, I don't believe in bullshiting myself or others.

What do you make of this btw, is yer man talking out his hole? 😆 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hockney%E2%80%93Falco_thesis

@seosamh77
Tracing, nothing wrong with tracing. Its what you get from it or what you need to achieve.

As...Picasso said: Good artists copy; great artists steal.

But, I prefer a more loose apprach to my artwork, probably because I get bored to easily if the detail start going on to much.

A watercolour done during a ride break earlier in the year. First time felt in many sketches that I caught this particular wood. Well in my mind anyway :).

I suppose that is all that matters unless of course your selling stuff.

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[url= https://www.flickr.com/photos/58162507@N07/24402500468/ ]Mountain Bike Ride Woodland Watercolour[/url] by [url= https://www.flickr.com/photos/58162507@N07/ ][/url] - [url= https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.dariogf.flickr2BBcode_lite ]Flickr2BBcode LITE[/url]

like that red, not a bit chilly outdoors these days?

Bump.

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Here's one of the life drawings I was talking about.....back there.

Great stuff, just thought I'd pop up to say still enjoying drawing, and experimenting, but nothing I feel the need to share.

Just thought I'd say, I tried tracing a photo for proportions before filling in the face and shading - was much quicker and more accurate but I didn't enjoy the process. Will stick to just trying to improve through repetition and learning from mistakes.

what's that you've used for that jim, coloured chalk/charcoal? very godo, cheers for posting.

seosamh77 - Member

what's that you've used for that jim, coloured chalk/charcoal? very godo, cheers for posting.

That was oil pastels. Not something I enjoy using tbh, but I was happy enough with the results there. Normally our life drawing classes were broken into short sessions, but that was probably two hours. The short poses are easier on the model too I guess.

Here's a wee 5 minute Scarecrow job just to have something new to post. It's permanently Halloween in my brain 😉

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Just thought I'd say, I tried tracing a photo for proportions before filling in the face and shading - was much quicker and more accurate but I didn't enjoy the process. Will stick to just trying to improve through repetition and learning from mistakes.

Yeah I think that's the right approach because obviously drawing is a hobby, but I think a big part of hobbies is study and improvement. You can obviously improve and get better at tracing but if you spend too much time chasing that dragon you'll only ever be able to work from precise reference.

This is something I've talked at length about with artist friends and colleagues and I think we were all basically on the same page - use as much reference as you need but don't become reliant on it. A recurring comparison was that of Frank Frazetta and Boris Vallejo. Both artists used life reference and photo reference extensively but one just used it purely as a starting point, the other is a slave to it.

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Here's a wee 5 minute Scarecrow job just to have something new to post. It's permanently Halloween in my brain

😆

In take it all back 🙂

That was oil pastels.

I should have recognised that tbh, I used them for a still life in my higher art class, was terrible imo, but still enough to get me a B with 25 words in the history of art bit! 😆

Really really great sketch btw.

cheers, there's a few **** ups about it, mouth and under that about the chin in particular(not to mention the obvious bit bottom left of the mouth where I picked up the wrong weight of pen!), but I think overall it was a worthwhile exercise though. Now to ditch the tracing... 🙂

Wee bit of Photoshop.....do no harm.

Who is it anyway?

jimjam - Member
Wee bit of Photoshop.....do no harm.

aye, might do that, not against photoshop btw, that was just purley for the inktober challenge. 😉

It's brendan rodgers btw.

He's the source image.

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actually noticeable looking at that source image now, my tele, where I leave the image up as reference, blows out the image a far bit, hmm interesting that, now I look at that there there's some really obvious things I should have done. might need to ditch the tele and use the comp in future..

Another thing, don't be afraid to exaggerate features for the sketch

aye good point, will take that forward, somethig i've not really considered. 🙂

Been a bit lax lately but will do some more.

I have a question about rotrings. Do you need to keep the vertical when drawing or can they be held at an angle off 90?

They don't seem to require any special angle that I can see, I just use them like any other pens. I think I prefer the cheaper Steadler ones tbh.

Reed and Indian ink.

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[url= https://www.flickr.com/photos/58162507@N07/24464407428/ ]Spider in reeds and Indian ink.[/url] by [url= https://www.flickr.com/photos/58162507@N07/ ][/url] - [url= https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.dariogf.flickr2BBcode_lite ]Flickr2BBcode LITE[/url]

No angle needed on the rotrings, they are heavier and blacker than staedtlers though. Slightly different type of pen, worth having both I think.

Very nice red! 🙂

Fox jawbone study. Found it a while ago whilst out on a ride.

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That's class. I found a cow skull on a ride the other day, kind of stood around looking at it for quite a while. I was puzzled what to do with it but stuffing it in my jersey pocket and hucking it 40k home was out of the question.

A watercolour painted from the Severn Bridge looking down on someone else painting on Beachly wharf.

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I love that red!

Just looking at buying Mrs Binners an easel, charcoals and oil pastels, as she wants to take a step up from the pencil and ink drawings. This makes me immeasurably happy 🙂

Love this thread, been very inspiring and has finally got me back into drawing - as an IT worker with a very non-artistic career it's great to be doing something different 🙂

So here's an artistic impression of the younger miss mogrim when she gets up:

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[url= https://flic.kr/p/ZnwUAo ]No ink involved[/url]

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More reeds 🙂

Watercolour from this years Bluebell season.

Looking back through my 2017 sketches.

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And a cheeky thread bump 😉

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[url= https://www.flickr.com/photos/58162507@N07/37791786824/ ]Koi Kenny Indian Ink an Reeds[/url] by [url= https://www.flickr.com/photos/58162507@N07/ ][/url] - [url= https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.dariogf.flickr2BBcode_lite ]Flickr2BBcode LITE[/url]

Love the sloth.

Been MEGA busy at work so need to make time to draw, repair bikes, ride bikes. . .

More great work Mr thunder. I've been busy still and any moment I've had has been reserved for the camera. Will post something tomorrow

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A couple of quick sketches from photo ref.

I need to learn to paint landscapes so I can do them with all signs of human activity removed, reverting to nature. Redthunder's mention of Beachly reminds me that would be one of my first scenes.

molgrips - Member

I need to learn to paint landscapes so I can do them with all signs of human activity removed, reverting to nature.

Well I guess that's preferable to developing some kind of super virus to wipe us out molgrips 😉

Good stuff folks, I shall return just taking a wee break.

Foxy Roxy
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If the skull is still at woods next time I pass by, I'll bring it home.

They seem to have a value on online.

Very cool.

Well I guess that's preferable to developing some kind of super virus to wipe us out molgrips

Also probably easier than creating a Google Earth plugin to do the same thing 🙂

Thanks Jimjam.

This went a bit Pirate looking IMO .

Ayways, reed and ink again.

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I really like that too. Your style makes me want to get crazy with the ink .....but I am making a conscious effort to focus on little details with the aim of developing my shading and maybe work up some slightly more finished pieces.

@jimjam
Thanks again for the comments.

I have found the reeds and ink liberating and emense fun.

I got the reeds from the river bank. Snipped of at 30'ish degrees and use Indian ink.

Dont worry about mistakes it's very forgiving :).... sometimes.

Righty ho. Thought I'd update you on how Mrs Binners is getting on. To say that she's embraced this is something of an understatement. She's been quite prolific. She's got oil and chalk pastels, but seems to have really taken to the watercolour pencils, with an ink outline. Heres the latest from this morning

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And here's my Cheesy Feet illustration, coloured up...

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Nice hare by Mrs B! Lovely eye. 😀

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Druid

Reed, ink...bleach.

Just sort of happened. Based on Druids Archers badge.

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Bit of Bamboo

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It's not ink and it's not October but...Was keen to start a new painting so had to finish the weird face one. Colours and detail are lost in the pic (and it's not really finished but when are they ever?)

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I've been wanting to do something based on my family crest for ages as it's got a knight on a horse and the motto is pretty cool too. Proportions are stretched intentionally as we're all lanky gits. Plan is to take pics of the progress so here's the initial pencil sketch. There's a good chance it wont look anything like this when done :lol

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Love it. I'm almost inspired again 😳 😆

Do it J!!! Sure the weathers too crap for any meaningful bike driving anyway.

Cheers btw 😀

In a synchronous charity-shop find a few days back I saw a funny little bag for £3. I thought 'that'll do for my A5 sketchbook, pencils, charcoal, phone etc. Well, I bought it, and lo and behold turned out it was one of these! (Might wish to turn sound down the vid, the muzak is punishing)

Recommended. It has removable leaves for drawing tools so loads of organisational scope. Just enough room for a sarnie too.

Back of the net!

Severn on the Rocks, low tide.

Pens from Aldi... 12 Greyscale markers. Bit hidden in the shop but worth it 🙂

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Nice rocks.
The pens look sort of brown and green to me. Is that the photo or scan or do they have a tint?

I spend the two months after Inktober reading about The Loomis Method of drawing heads (I have pages in my pad for mouths and noses and so on). I think I learned something. I should get back to it. Then again, all work and no play...

Here's a Renault Espace looking for a parking space:

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All Grey
Some cool, warm, even blueish.

I take a pic later of the caps.

https://www.aldi.co.uk/script-grey-twin-tip-markers-12-pack/p/082733195025800?gclid=EAIaIQobChMI1vrY1_Dr2AIV6rXtCh3ZkQPDEAYYASABEgLos_D_BwE

Twirlip that is knockout. From the inclination of the driver's head to the detail of the flashing fencing in the mirrors. I can feel speed and some vertigo-type exhilaration looking at this drawing!

Those Aldi pens.

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All my old Flickr posts have been deleted 🙁 (by me)

Went a bit Achilles and deleted everything because it did an auto upload of everything on my tablet.

Must upload again soon.

Those pens look good. I was thinking of trundling down to the art shop for a 2nd shade of grey. I might have a look in Aldi now.

Thanks Malvern!
For the avoidance of doubt, I was copying a photo. [url= ]Clicky here to see.[/url]
I'm not sure how I feel about all this copying. Almost everything I've stuck on Instagram lately has been done from a photo. I mean, you need reference and there's great practice value in interpretation. But still, it sometimes feels like cheating.
On the other hand, time is short and there aren't enough F1 cars parked near my office (even in the summer). Perhaps I'm over-thinking it.

Here's a punk:

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Clicky [url=

View this post on Instagram

to see it on the instant-gram.

The Aldi pens are available online with free delivery as well.

[url= https://www.aldi.co.uk/script-grey-twin-tip-markers-12-pack/p/082733195025800 ]https://www.aldi.co.uk/script-grey-twin-tip-markers-12-pack/p/082733195025800[/url]

^ Not at that link, at least not for me 🙁

^ Not at that link, at least not for me 🙁

Link is working now. I think Aldi's website was broken.

I had a stab at the car as well.... Reeds again, could not resist.

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Cool.
Cool cool cool cool cool...

There's a real feel of speed in that. Nice work.

I’m not sure how I feel about all this copying. Almost everything I’ve stuck on Instagram lately has been done from a photo. I mean, you need reference and there’s great practice value in interpretation. But still, it sometimes feels like cheating.

I like to draw from memory if possible (or imagination) for a couple of reasons. Firstly it feels more like my interpretation of whatever i'm drawing/painting. But more importantly - no one can tell how bad it is compared to the original 😀

Lovin' the latest inkings lads

Put a wash of black on the horsey/figure to give me something to work the paint against and applied the first lick of grey for the horse - it'll be a white horse eventually - though my horse anatomy is i little rusty so it'll probably look like a human in a horsey pose 😀

@redthunder - I love the looseness of your lines!

Here's more of the same from me:
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