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At breakfast I happened to notice the ingredients on the butter. It said, on the unsalted butter :
Ingredients : Butter
and on the salted :
Ingredients : Butter, Salt
But unless my memory fails me, butter isn't made of butter, it's made of milk. Butter isn't something that exists until you take something else and do something to it, so why doesn't it say "Milk"? Does anyone know how such decisions are made?
I'm in France so perhaps this is French specific - can anyone tell me what's on the butter packets in the UK. Does it say Milk. I'll feel a bit better if it does.
And if anyone is wondering, yes, slow morning 🙂
Ingredients: quarks.
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Du redest Quark, den ganzen Tag!
OK - I get that we can't reduce everything to it's smallest constituent parts, or all the lists would be the same. But if you had no butter, and were trying to make some, then a list of ingredients that says just "Butter" is of no use. Are you allowed to put
on bread, for example? OrIngredients : Bread
on cakes?Ingredients : Cake
No, British ones say 'milk(cream), salt'
Clearly the French have a far better understanding of basic food production and us Brits need it spelling out.
Surely butter is milk that has undergone a transformative process to make it into . . . er . . . butter? If they were to list 'milk' as an ingredient and you opened the pack only to find there was no milk - just butter - they would be open to prosecution under the trades descriptions act? Or something.
Tesco website says "Cream (Milk), Salt (1.7%)" for their salted butter. The fridge is at least 30 steps away and I'm lazy.
But isn't that the whole point ? The difference between the product (what you expect to find in the bag) and the ingredients (what is in the product, but not necessarily immediately obvious). I'd be mighty disappointed if I bought chips and just got a bag with some potatoes, oil and salt in it.Surely butter is milk that has undergone a transformative process to make it into . . . er . . . butter? If they were to list 'milk' as an ingredient and you opened the pack only to find there was no milk - just butter - they would be open to prosecution under the trades descriptions act? Or something.
No, British ones say 'milk(cream), salt'
Tesco website says "Cream (Milk), Salt (1.7%)" for their salted butter.
This is immensely reassuring news.
*checks fridge*
"Beurre aux cristaux de sel de mer de Noirmoutier".
I think we have the same butter."Beurre aux cristaux de sel de mer de Noirmoutier".
But if you had no butter, and were trying to make some, then a list of ingredients that says just "Butter" is of no use.
It's not a recipe.
It's not there to enable you to keep the packet and make your own when you run out 😆
I get that, because a recipe is a list of ingredients and the instructions.It's not a recipe.
But as it stands, saying just "Butter", it isn't a list of ingredients. I would expect to be able to add instructions to a list of ingredients and be able to make the product. This clearly fails my test.
You've obviously never followed an American recipe. They include ingredients like "one packet of [named brand unheard of outside the US] chocolate cake mix."
you. I really enjoyed that. 😆
Rumbled. 😕You've obviously never followed an American recipe.
Whoa!! Butter in the fridge. Seriously?
This is part of my job, yay!
If your food or drink product has 2 or more ingredients (including any additives), you must list them all. Ingredients must be listed in order of weight, with the main ingredient first.
Ingredient quantities
You also have to show the percentage of an ingredient if it is:
highlighted by the labelling or a picture on a package, for example ‘extra cheese’
mentioned in the name of the product, for example ‘cheese and onion pasty’
normally connected with the name by the consumer, for example fruit in a summer pudding.
[url= https://www.gov.uk/food-labelling-and-packaging/ingredients-list ]Food labelling guidance[/url]
Guidance on butter and cheese exemptions can be found [url= https://www.food.gov.uk/sites/default/files/food-allergen-labelling-technical-guidance.pdf ]here[/url]
Milk
40. The rules do not name the animal origin of milk because the word ‘milk’ includes milk from mammals such as cow, sheep, goat, and buffalo etc. It should be noted that all mammalian milk proteins have a similar structure and if someone has an allergy or intolerance to cows’ milk, they are likely to be allergic or intolerant to other mammalian milk. Therefore all milk and milk products (including lactose) need to be declared when used as an ingredient or a processing aid unless exempt (see p11-12 for exemptions).
41. Milk products such as cheese, butter, fermented milk and cream do not have to have an ingredients list, where no other ingredients have been added other than lactic acid, food enzymes and microbiological cultures and (in the case of cheese) salt. In order to ensure that consumers still receive the information they need to clearly identify the presence of milk in such cases, the following advice may be applied. The use of sales names such as ‘cheese’, ‘butter’, ’cream’ and ‘yoghurt’ is considered to refer clearly to the milk because legally these products can only be made from mammalian milk (EU Council Regulation No. 1308/2013 on Dairy designations). In such cases, further reference to ‘milk’ is not necessary because the Dairy designations protect such products. Therefore, cheese, butter, cream and yoghurt can be emphasised within the ingredients to demonstrate the presence of a milk product. The British Retail Consortium (BRC) and Food and Drink Federation (FDF) guidance provides best practice advice on this area and a literal interpretation of the EU FIC where all milk products have a clear reference to milk regardless of whether it is a protected term or not.
mammalian milk
Is there any other kind?
http://www.bbc.co.uk/earth/story/20151016-five-animals-you-never-knew-make-milk-for-their-babies
Fromage du pseudoscorpion, anyone?
Coconut?Is there any other kind?
Coconut?
Ah, good point. And almond, etc etc. I was thinking in terms of animals.
Magnesia.
Human kindness
Tray
What does it say on the side of I Can't Believe It's Not Butter ?
What does it say on the side of I Can't Believe It's Not Butter
Slime.
Butter flavouring.
centralscrutinizer - MemberWhat does it say on the side of I Can't Believe It's Not Butter ?
Not Butter
Suspension Of Disbelief
Inevitable Disappointment
it's made of milk
Cream, actually, otherwise known as butterfat. So butter is made of butterfat.
This is part of my job, yay!If your food or drink product has 2 or more ingredients (including any additives), you must list them all. Ingredients must be listed in order of weight, with the main ingredient first
Just out of curiousity, why do things like beer rarely/never have the ingredients?
Beer has ingredients here. It's mostly just water, as it happens. Absolutely shocking, can understand why they'd want to keep that quiet. 😆Just out of curiousity, why do things like beer rarely/never have the ingredients?
Waitrose Unsalted Butter - "Unsalted Butter (Milk)".