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Let's hope this is the first of many kickings for him - and the same happens to others of his ilk.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-50960730


 
Posted : 31/12/2019 7:16 pm
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Not nearly enough cash yet, I hope the whole thing bankrupts him and any of his financial supporters.


 
Posted : 31/12/2019 7:26 pm
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I feel like a better person wouldn't be disappointed he hadn't had an actual kicking.


 
Posted : 31/12/2019 7:27 pm
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and it's not even gone to trial yet, this is just the warm up.  Excellent


 
Posted : 31/12/2019 7:33 pm
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Couldn't happen to a nicer person.


 
Posted : 31/12/2019 7:36 pm
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That’s less than a tenth of what he should have been fined, actually, by American settlents, he should have been fine tens of millions.
And been given a bloody good kicking.
A vile, reprehensible scumbag.


 
Posted : 31/12/2019 7:37 pm
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He’s worth something like $10M which sounds like a lot until you realise what this shitstorm could end up costing him.

Happy days.

Couldn’t happen to a nastier scumbag


 
Posted : 31/12/2019 7:43 pm
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Fines to date are for a single claim at the pre-trial stage; yes, let's hope this is a small taste for him of what's to come.


 
Posted : 31/12/2019 7:46 pm
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That’s less than a tenth of what he should have been fined

As I understand it this is just a fine for not producing information the courts had asked for (which he probably couldn't because it's not clear it exists).  The big fine will come with the court case we hope

In some ways these sorts of sites should exist just to question what we take for granted but the Sandy Hook stuff took him into 100% pure **** territory with zero evidence.


 
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He’s paid to spout nonsense, it’s no surprise that Jones is doubling down and ignoring the courts - the very best thing that can happen would be for Jones’s financial backers to be named, shamed and sued into oblivion.


 
Posted : 31/12/2019 7:49 pm
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He has made a fortune torturing the families of murdered children, my imagination does not sink to the depths of picturing the punishment he deserves.


 
Posted : 31/12/2019 8:03 pm
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I remember back when Jones was interviewed by Piers Morgan, some wag on Twitter commented "you've got to consider your life choices when you could win a Who's The Biggest See You Next Tuesday competition in a room containing Piers Morgan."


 
Posted : 31/12/2019 8:09 pm
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To be fair though, while piers Morgan is a grade a c*** of the highest order, he isn't even in the same order of magnitude as Alex Jones


 
Posted : 31/12/2019 8:36 pm
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Not wanting to tweak the whiskers of karma, but I wish for something very bad to happen to him.


 
Posted : 31/12/2019 8:40 pm
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I think it is more a testament to the restraint of the sandy hook parents that this guy is still alive. I can't imagine what I would want to do to that guy having had him say that you were lying having held the body of your dead son.
I can't imagine anything that the world could do to him that would make up for the stain on humanity of his existence


 
Posted : 31/12/2019 8:54 pm
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Hmmm..

Some of you seem non to keen on this chap.

Having read the link ^^ I join you in the hatred.


 
Posted : 31/12/2019 9:32 pm
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I could watch Alex Jones die screaming without troubled.

But I have to say the Sandy Hook promise videos are truly unsettling, I have had my share of worries about my girls at school, but that is something beyond me.


 
Posted : 31/12/2019 11:47 pm
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https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-50074652

$450k compensation in this case, hopefully that's the norm, or the very least he can expect.


 
Posted : 01/01/2020 12:48 am
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Hands up here, didn't know about this till I read that link.

How, how could you do that??? Honestly makes me believe that the devil is alive and well in many people.


 
Posted : 01/01/2020 12:48 am
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Poops, wish I could offer some intelligent comment.
I can't.
No doubt Jones and his like would have existed without Trump but can't avoid thinking the orange faced buffoon has in some way facilitated the poison that Jones and others spew into the air.
I agree that Jones' existence is proof the devil lives.


 
Posted : 01/01/2020 1:29 am
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I could watch Alex Jones die screaming without trouble

I could watch Alex Jones being gang raped, and it would make me angry that he wasn't being brutally murdered.


 
Posted : 01/01/2020 8:43 am
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What I can never get my head around with people like Alex Jones is do they actually believe the shite they spout?

Same with that vile creature Katy Hopkins, do they actually believe what they say or is it all just the most hideous, outlandish and divisive tosh they can think up to try and get publicity?


 
Posted : 01/01/2020 8:44 am
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Jones’s financial backers to be named, shamed

Most have been named. Shame doesn't appear to be in their capabilities.


 
Posted : 01/01/2020 9:40 am
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What an absolute vile prick of a man. Should be stripped of all his assets and placed naked in some stocks.


 
Posted : 01/01/2020 9:49 am
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What I can never get my head around with people like Alex Jones is do they actually believe the shite they spout?

No.

It’s a calculated means of making a living.

The attention makes them lots of money.

Want to buy some self improvement pills?


 
Posted : 01/01/2020 9:52 am
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Disinformation front for the NRA, if he did it out of belief it would be unconscionable but doing it for money utter scum.


 
Posted : 01/01/2020 9:55 am
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The attention makes them lots of money.

Want to buy some self improvement pills?

Is PayPal gift ok or would you prefer Western Union?


 
Posted : 01/01/2020 9:56 am
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There are some pretty vile comments about the man here.
Clearly he is not a nice person, but really, you'd happily see him raped/horribly killed?

Christ get a life, and think about what you've hoped for.


 
Posted : 01/01/2020 10:14 am
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This story is horrendous.

Here is the story of how damaging this stuff is. It's from this article.

https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2019/jan/23/conspiracy-theories-internet-survivors-truth

Lenny Pozner, 51, is preparing to pack his bags, again. A few weeks ago, “hoaxers” – as he calls conspiracy theorists – reproduced a map of his Florida neighborhood with a dropped pin marking the precise location of his apartment. It will be the eighth time in five years he will have been forced to move home as he strives to keep one step ahead of the fanatics who relentlessly hound him.

Pozner’s crime, in the eyes of conspiracy theorists, is being the father of one of the 20 children who were gunned down in the mass shooting in Newtown, Connecticut, in December 2012. Noah was the youngest of all victims. He had just turned six.

Within months, conspiracy theorists, egged on by Alex Jones and Infowars, went to work. They generated thousands of web posts and a 426-page book called “Nobody Died at Sandy Hook”.

Their thesis: the shooting at the elementary school never happened. The 20 kids who died were “crisis actors”. The tragedy was a con. Noah had never even existed, he was a construct of Photoshop.

Within a year, it had reached such a pitch that Pozner knew he had to do something. “I agonized about the situation for several weeks. But ultimately I felt I owed it to my son to protect his memory.” He posted on his Google+ page his son’s birth and death certificates and kindergarten report card.

“I was extremely naive. I believed that people were simply misinformed and that if I released proof that my child had existed, thrived, loved and was loved, and was ultimately murdered, they would understand our grief, stop harassing us, and more importantly, stop defacing photos of Noah and defaming him online.”

Instead, he watched his deceased son buried a second time, under hundreds of pages of hateful web content. “I don’t think there’s any one word that fits the horror of it,” Pozner says. “It’s a phenomenon of the age which we’re in, modern day witch-hunts. It’s a form of mass delusion.”

Pozner is extraordinarily controlled. His voice is flat and preternaturally calm, as though all emotion has been pummeled out of him. His apartment has the same pared-down, antiseptic quality. “I’ve gotten good at moving, I’ve adapted to it,” he says.
He left Newtown for Florida in 2013 with Noah’s mother, his now former wife Veronique De La Rosa, and their two daughters in the hope of rebuilding their lives. (He asked the Guardian not to identify the town he now lives in.) He has deliveries sent to a separate address and has rented multiple postal boxes as decoys.

The most serious of death threats came from Lucy Richards, a Florida resident who was so fervent in her belief that the Sandy Hook massacre was fake that she left messages on Pozner’s cellphone saying: “You’re going to die. Death is coming to you real soon, and there’s nothing you can do about it.” In June 2017, Richards was sentenced to five months in prison, followed by a further five months under house arrest.

Pozner sees this outpouring of hatred as a product of digital technology running ahead of society’s ability to contain it. “Social media hasn’t matured. We lack a segment of law enforcement specializing in it. There really is no one to help.”

But he reserves his staunchest criticism for Alex Jones, who he blames for amplifying conspiracies in the pursuit of profit. In a lawsuit suing Jones for defamation for more than $1m, lawyers for Pozner and De La Rosa chronicle how Infowars baited them over many years: the shooting was “staged”, a “giant hoax”. The school was an elaborate film set. It was all a “soap opera”.

But in targeting Pozner, Jones picked on the wrong guy. Since 2014 Pozner has made it his life’s work to confront the conspiracy theorists. Through his organization the Honr Network, Pozner has systematically challenged those who he believes cross that line, forcing moderators to delete posts. In 2018 alone, he reported 2,568 videos to YouTube and had 1,555 of those expunged.

Pozner’s lawsuit against Jones, which mirrors a similar legal case brought by Fontaine, is making its way through a federal court in Austin, Texas. Earlier this month they received a legal boost when the judge granted them access to Jones’s financial and marketing documents under discovery.

Jones denies defaming anyone, though he has so far failed in having the suits dismissed on free speech grounds.

Regarding the free speech argument, Pozner says: “You have the right to express yourself and your opinions, no matter how offensive they may be, until your chosen form of expression impedes my rights to be free from defamation and harassment.”

What shocks Pozner most, he says, was how alone he was when he began this fight. “I was the only one standing up to the hoaxers, and other than the loss of my son that was my biggest disappointment at the time.”

At least he has brought his son’s memory back to life. If you search Noah Pozner on Google you will find hundreds of articles about the boy’s life and death, and virtually none of the bile from those who questioned his existence.

By Pozner’s reckoning, one in five people around the world are suggestible to conspiracy theories, and their obsessions are amplified by the crude logic of digital algorithms. “There is just no more truth, there is just what’s trending on Twitter,” he says. “Used to be, you had to burn books to keep people from finding out the truth, now you just have to push it to page 20 of a Google search.”


 
Posted : 01/01/2020 10:16 am
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The unfortunate thing here is that some twonk in the US will start a Gofundme for the fat prick and pay the fine for him because "he's telling the truth"

Unless, that is, the 100k also comes with a "10 minutes in the same room with the parents with a pair of pliers and steel toe capped boots while he's strapped to a chair, legs akimbo" clause. I'd see him back on You Tube just for that


 
Posted : 01/01/2020 1:41 pm
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I do wonder if he believes any of this shit, or just wants to hawk his crappy 'nutraceuticals' to a select group of credulous ****ers.


 
Posted : 01/01/2020 2:08 pm
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Hard to think of many people who have done more to poison American political discourse than Alex Jones.

Whilst Sandy Hook was probably his most sickening grift, his '9/11 was an inside job' nonsense continues to cause horror to this day.

The anti-Semitic graffiti that was daubed in London just a few days ago, that can be traced straight back to Info Wars and their talk of 'globalists' staging terror attacks.


 
Posted : 01/01/2020 3:14 pm
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There are some pretty vile comments about the man here.
Clearly he is not a nice person, but really, you’d happily see him raped/horribly killed?

Christ get a life, and think about what you’ve hoped for.

I would respectfully suggest you go and do some in-depth research into this man and everything that he’s done and said, then come back and let us know how you would like him to be treated.
He’s a walking human turd.


 
Posted : 01/01/2020 5:01 pm
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I would respectfully suggest you go and do some in-depth research into this man and everything that he’s done and said, then come back and let us know how you would like him to be treated.

In a modern democracy with some regard to human rights physical punishment isn't the answer. Put in jail, break him financially, turn him into an irrelevance. About all you can do.

He’s a walking human turd.

I agree


 
Posted : 01/01/2020 5:08 pm
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There are some pretty vile comments about the man here.
Clearly he is not a nice person, but really, you’d happily see him raped/horribly killed?

Christ get a life, and think about what you’ve hoped for.

I've had a quick dig round in my imagination for any dark deeds I could imagine. I've got a pretty vivid imagination. And nope, none of them would be off the menu for Mr Jones. Soz.


 
Posted : 01/01/2020 5:20 pm
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There are some pretty vile comments about the man here.
Clearly he is not a nice person, but really, you’d happily see him raped/horribly killed?

Christ get a life, and think about what you’ve hoped for

Yeah but if he got gang raped (which would be a terrible shame obviously) or whatever, someone could just put a site up saying it was a hoax and it's all good right?? It never happened, so I don't see the problem?


 
Posted : 01/01/2020 6:04 pm
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Have you seen Hostel? All of that, just for starters. Followed by the first retribution from Law Abiding Citizen.


 
Posted : 01/01/2020 8:35 pm
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He's a terrorist- he should be treated the same as any other terrorist.


 
Posted : 01/01/2020 9:45 pm
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Clearly he is not a nice person, but really, you’d happily see him raped/horribly killed?

It's very, very easy to react to Alex Jones's actions with vitriol and hatred - in any normal society, he'd be laughed at on his way to irrelevance. However, wishing the worst kind of violence upon Jones merely brings one down to Jones' level.

Far better to see him forced to defend himself in his deposition back in March here

And consider this - who is worse; Jones himself or the people who've helped fund him and platform him. The actions of some of the individuals connected to the NRA who've used Jones to harass grieving have been every bit as heinous. I'd like to see them defend themselves in court too. In hating Jones for his vitriol, you're letting someone else get away with worse.


 
Posted : 01/01/2020 9:52 pm
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Yeah but if he got gang raped (which would be a terrible shame obviously) or whatever, someone could just put a site up saying it was a hoax and it’s all good right?? It never happened, so I don’t see the problem?

This. I merely wish on him what he has done to others.


 
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lets hope he spent a night in the cells with a "good old boy" call Bubba

squeal piggy squeal


 
Posted : 11/03/2020 9:42 am
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Isn't it nice to see a news piece that cheers you up for a change. 🙂


 
Posted : 11/03/2020 12:13 pm
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"his blood-alcohol level was recorded at 0.076% and 0.079%, according to court records.

In Texas, the legal blood alcohol limit is 0.08%."

So he wasn't over the limit? Why was he charged?

Odd.


 
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I'd hazard a guess that's it's to do with the time between hm being picked up and tested being long enough that it could be proven that his blood alcohol level was over the threshhold prior to the test?


 
Posted : 11/03/2020 1:02 pm
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Good point. I was assuming road-side testing.

Does the US still rely on weird Field Sobriety Tests, walking in a straight line and standing on one leg, sort of shizzle?


 
Posted : 11/03/2020 1:14 pm
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@cougar From the Grauniad link:

Jones was also allegedly unable to complete sobriety tests.

🙂


 
Posted : 11/03/2020 7:45 pm
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His followers will believe that this is just an attempt to silence him and to stop the flow of "real" information.Somewhere on the net you will find a post by one of these "cultists" that the whole thing has been planned by Clinton and financed by Soros and is just another example of right leaning "news" being expunged from the interwebs.

Recovering from hernia surgery sept '18 i spent a lot of time on american forums and followed links to some extraordinary ****wits.Mixing politics with religion and being conspiratorial leads these morons to believe any crap and pass it on as gospel.

One of these mouthbreathers turned up armed at a pizza joint that jones informed them housed a peadophile ring that Hillary Clinton ran.


 
Posted : 11/03/2020 8:33 pm
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Surely, we have gone beyond believing that ‘an eye for an eye’ represents justice and punishment...?

He represents many things I hate, but I cannot see why we should lose our humanity and become more like him - just to punish him.


 
Posted : 11/03/2020 9:58 pm
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Nah; he is despicable. I would like to see “ death by honey badger.” On a coroners report about him.


 
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There’s a parallel between Jones and the nut job preachers who fleece their congregations for huge sums of money. Ones uses politics, the other uses God. Both rely on fear because fear sells.

Whilst I agree that we shouldn’t wish physical harm on the man in terms of brutality or rape, he’s a disgusting human being who prays on the ill informed and should be punished. I wonder how long it’ll be before he goes bankrupt and Louis Theroux does a tv show on him..


 
Posted : 12/03/2020 9:22 am
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Flange +1 - I refuse to stoop to his level, however despicable he us


 
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He's a terrorist, and he'll never be adequately punished for his terrorism, so this doesn't represent justice but it does represent a tiny sliver of what actual justice would look like, so I'm all for it.


 
Posted : 12/03/2020 3:30 pm
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https://abcnews.go.com/Entertainment/wireStory/alex-jones-accused-selling-phony-coronavirus-cures-69571532

Not sure "Piece of S**t" quite covers it when describing him


 
Posted : 13/03/2020 3:15 pm
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I wonder how long it’ll be before he goes bankrupt and Louis Theroux does a tv show on him..

Jon Ronson has done a few things on him. Despicable, and his toes to Trump equally so


 
Posted : 15/03/2020 2:51 pm
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One of these mouthbreathers turned up armed at a pizza joint that jones informed them housed a paedophile ring that Hillary Clinton ran.

It was allegedly in the basement of the property. The property has no basement...


 
Posted : 15/03/2020 8:48 pm
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Yeah that was the "pizzagate conspiracy", eddie bravo (look into it) is another one of the nutjobs who believe utter guff (amongst his support for alex jones) and he was on the Joey Diaz podcast recently still spouting bollocks.


 
Posted : 15/03/2020 9:24 pm
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Another kick in the bollocks for that loathsome bag of malignant cells.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-58771927


 
Posted : 02/10/2021 3:54 pm
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Hard to think of many people who have done more to poison American political discourse than Alex Jones.

I dunno, there's quite a few candidates, more dangerous because they are away from the extremity that is Alex Jones. His constituency are the most vulnerable, credulous and disturbed, the rest hawk a milder and yet more insidious form of hatred. Rush Limbaugh (may he rest in Hell), Rupert Murdoch, Bannon, there are so many...


 
Posted : 02/10/2021 4:43 pm
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He's a cock but seriously the comments on here are yuck. WTF would you want to watch someone gang raped or killed? Jesus.

Also Trump, Obama, Bush all killed 100s of innocent people in fake wars. Much worse.


 
Posted : 02/10/2021 6:27 pm
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I dunno, there’s quite a few candidates, more dangerous because they are away from the extremity that is Alex Jones

You mean like the republican party perhaps......


 
Posted : 02/10/2021 6:31 pm
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He’s a cock but seriously the comments on here are yuck. WTF would you want to watch someone gang raped or killed? Jesus.

Well, I wouldn’t necessarily want to watch that happening, however I’d get satisfaction from watching them go through a more extreme version of ‘I’m A Celebrity…” , where they get put in an enclosure with a colony of bullet ants, have to hug a stinging tree, swim with box jellyfish; things that wouldn’t necessarily kill them, but the sheer, agonising pain will make them fervently wish for blessed release. Which would never come.


 
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He just needs dropping down a big hole and the entrance concreting over.

I'm a big proponent of people like him being 'disappeared'. No fanfare, no show, just 'taken care of'.


 
Posted : 02/10/2021 7:04 pm

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