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Is this a real thing? It's come up on FaceBook. No idea who is behind it,
Also found this from the Independent.
Is that the best colours they could come up with? We gonna call it Griffindoria? England seems to have invaded North Wales too?
It's Northumberland annexing rest of Northern England?
Don't, you'll wake up the Cornish Liberation Army...
Living the dream, just rubbing out Kent entirely in Photoshop.
Or is that the new Lorrylandia flag?
Kingdom of Northumberland re-emerging.
Why not?
Assuming we get tight links with Scotland and rejoin the EU.
Be a bit like the Golgofrinchans....
The absence of the 3 leg IoM symbol greatly perturbs me.
@Drac - I'd like to move to Northumberland one day. This enables me to do it without any effort
😎
It’s Northumberland annexing rest of Northern England?
Only Cumbria ... and a tiny bit of Mercia from that map.
I love the desperate effort to keep hold of all the money in Cheshire.
Bye bye. If the North gets independence, will you all promise to stop moaning?😁
Surely the obvious answer is independence for the South East of England? I'm sure the rest of us would all then get on fine.
It's a truly awful idea for the nation as a whole, and probably wouldn't be economically strong enough to succeed. We "should" be stronger together.
Sadly, if we can't get the London centric government to pull it's head out of its own orifice, then I can see why the idea would be popular
I'd be mostly happy with that as it does include me, but I'd like to see the Peak District included, meaning splitting derbyshire or including all of it. Otherwise, I'll need a passport for my hilly loop to Buxton and back, and the kids across the road will have issues with getting to school
Luckily we are just missed from this. Can't think of anything worse than being lumped in for the sake of it with all of the self obsessed northerners.
Can’t think of anything worse than being lumped in for the sake of it with all of the self obsessed [s]northerners.[/s] slightly less southerners
FTFY
I read somewhere recently* that one way for Boris to come out of the CoVid/Brexit catastrophe smelling like roses would be to make England an independent country.
Then he could present as the guy who got rid of the whinging subsidy sucking Scots, (would he still want Wales?), and the saviour and first PM of the revitalised England.
I dismissed it as fantasy at the time, but he is an unconventional PM, and likes easy solutions that can be spun to make him look good.
However he hasn't asked the other "equal" partners in the Union (Scotland, Wales, and NI) for permission to have a referendum yet, so I'll believe it when I see that. 🙂
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* Anyone got a link to that? I didn't bother saving it.
East Anglia independence would make more sense. We would be self sufficient in turnips.
would he still want Wales?
He woudn't give a crap about Wales, no-one ever does.
Can’t think of anything worse than being lumped in for the sake of it with all of the self obsessed northerners.
🤔
Definitely have their north south divide wrong
i think it's quite a good idea, we could also split the rest into historic kingdoms. Strathclyde, Wessex, Gwynedd, Kent, Cornwall etc. Then the people will truly have representation.
For a one or two things we'd probably still want to pool our resources, such as power grids, roads, navy, etc and some how present a single united front for things like international sport, trade deals and so on. We could call it the united kingdoms.
1st problem, how do you convince Yorkshire to lower itself to the level of Lancashire?
It's a great battle of East Vs West, Gregs* and Cooplands in one corner, Sayers and £1 bakery in the other.
*Binners is going to be conflicted
I'm in North Shropshire. I want to be in Wales or the new northern country. I don't want to be part of the southern set. 😢
Surely the obvious answer is independence for the South East of England? I’m sure the rest of us would all then get on fine.
Oh, I like this. Where do I vote?
Thats not Northern England. The North doesn't start until Scotch corner. Anything south of that is the Midlands
Will it involve lots of sword play and extreme hair styles?
I am in...:-) MY NAME IS FASTHAGGIS ..SON OF OLDHAGGIS ,HERE TO CLAIM BEBBANBURG
Way back in Brexit history I really annoyed some brexiters by suggesting that if leaving the EU was a good idea, then applying the same logic would not only imply that the Union should be abandoned, but then that the ancient kingdoms of Northumbria, Mercia, East Anglia, Essex, Kent, Sussex, and Wessex should be re-established. But it doesn't stop there. If smaller unions with reduced co-operation are good, then the next step is back to a collection of fiefdoms, then to warring villages, and then to tribes living in huts. Which is pretty much where we are headed now, I think.
I think that map shows Kent as a lorry park post Brexit.
Can’t think of anything worse than being lumped in for the sake of it with all of the self obsessed northerners.
🤔
next step is back to a collection of fiefdoms, then to warring villages, and then to tribes living in huts. Which is pretty much where we are headed now, I think.
Don’t stop there. Don’t stop ‘til there is, oh, nothing?
I'm pretty bored of this island as a whole and its current self harm attitude to everything. It can split up however it likes, I think I'm going to head somewhere else as soon as I can persuade my wife.
The North doesn’t start until Scotch corner.
That’s practically the Isle of Wight.
The North, nice place but fk all there. I'll stick to the South East where we can comfortably ignore other peoples' existence.
I used to actually think the north would be better joining an independent Scotland. Then we went all Brexity. 🙁
1st problem, how do you convince Yorkshire to lower itself to the level of Lancashire?
More like dragging them up to be nearly level with us. With having Hull and Rotherham on our books we can cope with a bit more of that sort of thing.
I'd even accept the midlands into this, although if we can find a way of palming Stoke off on the Welsh...
Why not?
Assuming we get tight links with Scotland and rejoin the EU.
Did the yellow and red stripy bit not vote to leave the EU?
I read somewhere recently* that one way for Boris to come out of the CoVid/Brexit catastrophe smelling like roses would be to make England an independent country.
Then he could present as the guy who got rid of the whinging subsidy sucking Scots, (would he still want Wales?), and the saviour and first PM of the revitalised England.
I dismissed it as fantasy at the time, but he is an unconventional PM, and likes easy solutions that can be spun to make him look good.
Probably the only way for him to save the Union is to introduce some form of regional government on this sort of basis. I'm not sure his fight with Andy Burnham etc has left the North believing that he'd be on their side though.
I’m not sure his fight with Andy Burnham etc has left the North believing that he’d be on their side though.
A lot of us weren't under any allusions before COVID
Where does Danelaw apply in this brave new world? And will Kent have to include Isle of Sheppy or can we make that independent too?
Kent is soon to be a vassal state of the EU. The fate of Sheppy rests with Brussels now.
Did the yellow and red stripy bit not vote to leave the EU?
Does that mean those of us left in the White and red bit to the can opt back into the EU and deport our Brexiteers (e.g. Farage and Bozza) to S****horpe? I'm sure they'll be welcome.
I'm only in favour of this proposal if we make the Midlands a sort of N/S Korean style DMZ, Brum, Derby, Nottingham, etc hemmed in on either side by guard towers and barbed wire...
Otherwise just split it all up into county based Fiefdoms...
I’m only in favour of this proposal if we make the Midlands a sort of N/S Korean style DMZ, Brum, Derby, Nottingham, etc hemmed in on either side by guard towers and barbed wire…
Well Nottinghamshire was always just a buffer between Yorkshire and Leicestershire.
1st problem, how do you convince Yorkshire to lower itself to the level of Lancashire?
I'm sure we could align against a common enemy.
The North, nice place but fk all there.
Aye, 'appen.
I think that map shows Kent as a lorry park post Brexit.
Now technically part of France, soon to be renamed 'Farage Garage', which must be pronounced like you're a cast member of Allo Allo
South Yorkshire is going to have to be an independent state.
although if we can find a way of palming Stoke off on the Welsh…
Well, you've all had plenty of practise at palming yourselves off, so yeah, I'm sure if you all got together you'd be able to palm off a city - or at least its population...
Probably the only way for him to save the Union is to introduce some form of regional government
which is going to be potentially embarrassing, didn’t Cummings cut his teeth on ensuring a “no” vote in precisely this sort of regional government in 2004
"Farage Garage" is excellent. I remember the glory days of lorries thronging the A20 (the M20 stopped at Harrietsham), queuing into Dover and Folkestone, lots of customs jobs at the port, booze cruises to Boulogne. Bringing back all that was best of the 1970s. I hope Farah trousers and flared jeans will be compulsory dress - or as it's now in France possibly berets and strings of onions?
The North deserves it's independence. By which I mean Chatham, Rochester and Strood.
Dear Hogwartsland; we will be coming over the wall to freshen up your gene pool again.
Yours,
A Scot.
Dear Hogwartsland; we will be coming over the wall to freshen up your gene pool again.
Yours,
A Scot.
You are aware that Hogwarts is in Scotland, right?
Griffindoria
😆 😆
Never mind the flag - where's the capital? I could see this one decision splitting into factions Manctopia, the Yorkshire Nation, Lancashire and the Northern alliance for the rest.
Now technically part of France, soon to be renamed ‘Farage Garage’, which must be pronounced like you’re a cast member of Allo Allo
I've just snorted with laughter in a really dull Teams session. Now on mute 🤦♂️
Dear Hogwartsland; we will be coming over the wall to freshen up your gene pool again.
Yours,
A Scot
see you on a hill near Branxton, don't forget to bring your latest James with you
Never mind the flag – where’s the capital?
Alston.
It is a bit like Canberra. But not as warm.
Alston
New Hartside Cafe and parliament building. When the politics get boring they could just look out the window. Probably face a strong challenge from Dunford Bridge and Flash.
Does this include Scotland?
Does this include Scotland?
Scotland will be renamed Elysium
Have no fear Nicola is no Jodie Foster.
🙂 🙂 🙂
I can imagine it all getting a bit fighty if we go off the ancient kingdoms, given Edinburgh would be in Northumbria 😉
I read somewhere recently* that one way for Boris to come out of the CoVid/Brexit catastrophe smelling like roses would be to iron his clothes, learn to speak in coherent sentences and get a ****ing haircut
FTFY.
Surely York would be the capital of Middleland as it has form for this?
Wasn't the whole (tin foil hat) point of the EU election regions to begin the process of ascending to a sovereign europe, with each region ruled directly from Brussels, eliminating the need for national governments all together?
So this is basically the worst possible extrapolation of EU taking over, but without any of the benefits (trade, free movement, cooperative working etc etc etc) of actually being in the EU?
Surely York would be the capital of Middleland as it has form for this?
York which used to be England's capital but then they later came second in a scrap with Lancaster.
Wasn’t the whole (tin foil hat) point of the EU election regions to begin the process of ascending to a sovereign europe, with each region ruled directly from Brussels, eliminating the need for national governments all together?
So this is basically the worst possible extrapolation of EU taking over, but without any of the benefits (trade, free movement, cooperative working etc etc etc) of actually being in the EU?
No.
Why not?
Assuming we get tight links with Scotland and rejoin the EU.
Poly
Did the yellow and red stripy bit not vote to leave the EU?
I know where the crosses went but despite what the option they crossed said I do wonder if they really voted to leave the or "stick it to the man"
Besides.. we left now so they got what cross in the box said.
Once the economic reality hits and they see their new freedoms what they "voted for" may well change.
Maybe - Dent - it's kind of central. We could also adopt Cumbric as the new old national language of the North.
I'm up for this but not sure about the Bradford City looky-likey flag for our colours?
deport our Brexiteers (e.g. Farage and Bozza) to S****horpe?
they're already in S****horpe.
York which used to be England’s capital but then they later came second in a scrap with Lancaster.
I seem to recall this all gets rather murky, with the Yorkists actually being mainly from Lancashire*, the house of Lancaster mostly being from (when not being foreign) and drawing support from Yorkshire*, the Yorkists defeating the lancasters and wiping out the male line then a distant lancastrian (tudor) cousin invades from France, kills York, marries his sister and puts an end to the whole thing.
*obviously this isn't actually true, but in a very familiar twist they were all friends of the government of the day, parachuted into profitable and trouble free fiefdoms outside of London who had no idea where their particular barony was. So they sided with whomever they expected to win/pay better/treat them worst if they picked wrong, regardless of the reality of their little bit of the world being only 100 yards from York or Lancaster. They occasionally headed north to campaign and fight the opposition a bit to make sure they were on the list for the good jobs but in blatant disregard for the benefit or otherwise of their subjects.
It’s a great battle of East Vs West, Gregs* and Cooplands in one corner, Sayers and £1 bakery in the other.
FFS TINAS you’ve missed the joker - Booths in the west. NO CONTEST
And Northumberland is just Scotland lite.
Cougar
York which used to be England’s capital but then they later came second in a scrap with Lancaster.
I think it can lay claim to greater capital city glory than that.
The Emperor Severus ruled the Roman empire for 2 years from there.
Looks like support is growing.
I'm following this with interest because an independent buffer state between an independent Scotland and England would be a good thing IMO.
big_n_daft
see you on a hill near Branxton, don’t forget to bring your latest James with you
A) He was your James too!
B) We are coming to shag you, not fight you.
The North starts at Thelwall
Are we going to blow the viaduct?
Can we crowdfund it?
What about this for a national anthem?....
The North starts at Thelwall
The true North starts at the Tyne.