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are they all in the 4x100 together?
It would cause carnage in the transitions. At least if the order is set, most transitions happen roughly at the same time.
Ah that makes sense
simondbarnes
I’m watching Eurosport so that I don’t have to suffer Steve Cram.
I hope he learns how to say Kat-a-rina by the time the heptathlon comes around.
It must be so annoying for Kat and her family to hear him calling her Katrina, every time that clip of her winning gold is played.
Quite enjoy the boxing but preferred it when they used to have live scoring for punches landed. Loads more jeopardy IMO. Also disagree with removal of headguards after seeing fighters using the head, hoping for stoppages.
Ha, there are a lot of women called Catriona in Scotland who think they are called Catri-Owna when infact they are pronounced Katrina or KatrEE-ona just written with Gaelic spelling.
Charlotte Worthington in the Freestyle BMX- the living embodiment of Go Big or Go Home.
Total awesomeness
Ha, there are a lot of women called Catriona in Scotland who think they are called Catri-Owna when infact they are pronounced Katrina or KatrEE-ona just written with Gaelic spelling.
I'm pretty sure they know they're own name, it's up to them, no some long dead crofter.
Anyone else notice the women's vault camera dude seems to have a bit of a foot fetish? 😬
"Yazz" (Yulimar Rojas) from Venezuela just set the WR in triple jump. Congratulation!
Think we have two gold medals (Italy & Qatar) or joint Olympic champions in high jump for the first time. Well done.
Jacobs from Italy won the 100 metre sub 9.80 seconds!
Joint winners? Why not!
Talking about Yazz and the only way being 'Up', there's joint gold medals just been awarded in the men's high jump!
Charlotte Worthington in the Freestyle BMX- the living embodiment of Go Big or Go Home.
Total awesomeness
Yes! I was watching the a Bas Keep/Tall Order YouTube vids when they brought her on the team a few years ago. So cool to see her there, and only flippin winning it!
Crikey, Hughes being disqualified before even starting 100 metre ...
All the finishers still finished sub 10 seconds.
All medal winners set a PB as well… awesome race.
That mixed with the high jump and triple was a great watch.
Oh…
https://twitter.com/afidelf/status/1421847924624052225?s=21
Catri-Owna
KatrEE-ona
🤷
Germans have just smashed the women's Team Pursuit WR by 3 seconds in qualifying.
3 seconds in TP time is a country mile.
That's just 😲
Still some surprises, Australia haven't qualified for a medal run.
US just beat the old WR and are still 2.8 down.
GB loading up now. On their new Lotus-Hope kit.
Wow that was tense! Just fell apart in the final few moments.
This TP is rapid.
Finals are going to be good, aren’t they?
Can't wait for the final, Kate Archibald was impressive
Sifan Hassan incredibly impressive in the womens 1500m, gets taken out with 500m to go, miles behind, still wins her heat.
Laura Muir doing what needed done, superb.
Skateboarding on Thursday! Have you seen who is the women's athlete for GB? Amazing:
https://olympics.com/tokyo-2020/olympic-games/en/results/skateboarding/athlete-profile-n1440048-brown-sky.htm
Sorry, shouldnt' forget the old lady of the team, Bombette!
https://olympics.com/tokyo-2020/olympic-games/en/results/skateboarding/athlete-profile-n1440051-martin-bombette.htm
Ooofff he’s got a tyre mark down his face
Snapping handlebars is PROPER hardcore. There'll be some discussion with the manufacturers I bet!
Snapping handlebars is PROPER hardcore. There’ll be some discussion with the manufacturers I bet!
They'll have been 3D printed - possibly even in house.
Bloody lucky he was at the back of the line, if that had happened while he was leading or swinging up the track, he'd have taken out the entire team. Good that he's basically OK.
Ooofff he’s got a tyre mark down his face
It's not a tyre mark, it's where he cleverly used his face to gently brake to a stop.
Snapping handlebars is PROPER hardcore. There’ll be some discussion with the manufacturers I bet!
From the brief camera shot I saw it looked like it was integral with the stem and broke off at the steerer. They'll have spares but that guy's going to have serious trust issues!
Bloody lucky he was at the back of the line
Just what I was thinking. Imagine the carnage if he's been at the front 😲
light, strong, expensive. Pick 3 and still smash your face into the boards!
Pro cyclists are so hardcore. That guy hit the ground at speed and his immediate reaction was to be furious. He then walked to the pits and just looked pissed off.
If that was me I'd still be curled up in ball crying.
Just caught the penalty shootout for the hockey. First off, the format is so much more of a contest than in footie. Secondly I know they are padded up but still those goalies are proper hardcore. And GB made it through to the semis!
They used to have that style of shootout when the US started soccer leagues in the 70's, all games would be played to a result, US crowds couldn't deal with draws.
They're a bit too easy in football, unless you have a defender introduced maybe chasing from 5 yards further back, or a substantial time pressure it's too skewed in favour of the attacker
Not sure about the shin tape but they really need to look where they're going.
What's Danish for SMIDSY?
I don’t think the Danish rider was saying sorry seeing the grief he was giving Charlie Tanfield whilst he was on the deck…should have got up and smacked him the chops for being a di*k.
Yeah I hope the Danish rider apologises after he calms down
Loving the climbing!
Speed not quite as much, but the bouldering is great, and really looking forward to lead!
Hope that the scoring doesn’t make it all about the speed result.
Danes should be DQ just for their front rider being a complete dick. He behaved like a White Van Man who sideswipes you then screams at you for scraping his door!!
Some of the times in the velodrome are eye watering. Team GB improved on previous times, but the others have really upped their games.
Some of the times in the velodrome are eye watering. Team GB improved on previous times, but the others have really upped their games.
In the 5 years since Rio, the Women's TP time has come down by 6 seconds. That's just mind-blowing! 2 or 3 seconds yes. Six?! WTF?!
Any news on what is happening with the Men's race? Does the GB vs Den heat get re-run or is it deemed that the Danes got the catch?
I reckon the lead Danish rider didn't realise Tanfield was man 3, think he figured he was the jettisoned man 4 who shouldn't have been there (unlike a gapped man 3, who should).
Bit shady that the Danes weren't DQ'd for the illegal kit, just told to stop using it. Rules not really being applied consistently IMO.
The German women's TP was astounding.
Think the Danes go through, from the Guardian:
The UCI deliberated for half an hour before announcing that Denmark would advance to a final against Italy on Wednesday
Bit shady that the Danes weren’t DQ’d for the illegal kit, just told to stop using it. Rules not really being applied consistently IMO.
Does look a bit Cheaty McCheatfeet doesn't it.
Danes should be DQ just for their front rider being a complete dick
Probably a bit harsh to DQ the team but certainly a case for banning the rider who caused the crash from the final.
Any news on what is happening with the Men’s race? Does the GB vs Den heat get re-run or is it deemed that the Danes got the catch?
As things stand, Danes got the catch and go to the final. GB are in 7/8 playoff based on Charlie getting back on his bike and finishing. There are expected to be appeals tomorrow before racing starts
100 % agree with this though
Probably a bit harsh to DQ the team but certainly a case for banning the rider who caused the crash from the final.
Is Christian Horner writing our appeal documents?
Bit shady that the Danes weren’t DQ’d for the illegal kit, just told to stop using it. Rules not really being applied consistently IMO.
I've read that they had cleared the use of the tape with officials only for it to be rescinded after other teams complained. But at time of racing it was fine.
Well, the climbing is fun.
That lead wall is $%^&ing brutal.
WHERE'S THE DERNY!!!
Not all progress is progress.
Men's Team Pursuit up any minute, can't wait (even though there's no Team GB in it).
Katy Marchant relegated in the Keirin for going above the red line. Sounds like that's that, not even to the repechage even though she didn't particularly affect anyone and won by a length. Hardly like she just rode into the back of someone else, which is apparently OK.
Interesting as they said the track was a bit longer and thinner than usual, so the pursuit riders would be going black on corners to red on straights to round it off a bit, I wonder if the natural full gas sprint line pushes you a bit higher?
WHERE’S THE DERNY!!!
There's no derny? 😳
There's a bloke on an ebike.......adds insult to injury.
But it only goes up to 50 kph, leaves a lap earlier (safety apparently) and doesn't fill the velodrome with smoke and the smell of 2 stroke
That's a bit rubbish. Not the same without clouds of blue smoke.
Mind you, I was wondering last week if there's a derny-paced LEJOG record...
Marchant wins again in the repechage, looking very impressive.
That "derny" is pathetic.
They had an electric derny for a while which was bad enough, that is just a de-restricted e-bike. It's not a Keirin without a rumbly little farty 2-stroke. IMHO.
Now that was fun!
Ganna 😳
In the team pursuit, the lead Danish rider was looking at the floor for an extended period of time in order to be as aero as possible, this caused him to crash into the trailing UK rider.
Seems pretty crazy that UCI makes all sorts of rules for sock height, banning supertuck, etc but have nothing targeted towards lead riders maintain some forward situational awareness.
I admit, at this level of riding you would not expect the 3rd competing rider to have fallen so far back, but all sorts of hazards can occur on the track - fallen rider/equipment issue etc. Surely it is reasonable to expect lead riders to maintain a bit of forward vision and try to avoid hazards?
Surely it is reasonable to expect lead riders to maintain a bit of forward vision and try to avoid hazards?
Agreed, but it would have been a bit of a travesty if gb were advanced ahead of the Danes. Was quite pleased to see Italy win though.
I dont understand why we were in the seventh/eighth race, surely the point of the round against the clock is to find the fastest teams after that it should be a simple knock out so we would have gone into the bronze run off. What would have happened if we had been caught and had no time, which race would we have gone in?
What would have happened if we had been caught and had no time, which race would we have gone in?
3/4 (i think)
No, the seeding means that the winners of 1v4 and 2v3 will go into gold medal race. For the other 6, it's just ranking on fastest times in their races. As slowest we were in 8th pos, but even without a crash Charlie was way off the pace and we'd have been well down
On another note, I've managed to watch the speed clmbing and the leading from the mean's climbing yesterday, ahas anyone got a link to coverage of the buoldering?
No, the seeding means that the winners of 1v4 and 2v3 will go into gold medal race. For the other 6, it’s just ranking on fastest times in their races. As slowest we were in 8th pos, but even without a crash Charlie was way off the pace and we’d have been well down
But this is illogical you are mixing two race formats in one race - a head to head and a time trial - it should be solely be one or the other and if the latter why bother as you have already done one.
But this is illogical you are mixing two race formats in one race – a head to head and a time trial – it should be solely be one or the other and if the latter why bother as you have already done one.
It's long been a complaint in the TP.
The qualification run (only one team on the track) is based on time to give a seeding.
Only the top four teams can compete for the gold medal, with teams fifth and lower only able to reach the bronze final at best (that's a fairly recent rule change, it used to be 1st vs 8th, 2nd vs 7th and so on).
In the next round, the fastest team takes on the fourth fastest, and the second and third ride against each other – with the winner of each match-up progressing to the gold medal final.
The bottom four teams are also seeded against each other, and the two fastest teams not to reach the gold-medal final, contest the bronze-medal final.
In the finals, there are the two medal finals, as well as a placings final to determine who finishes fifth and sixth, and seventh and eighth.
Problem is that you can end up in a situation where a ride off for Bronze or a minor placing actually records a faster time than the Gold/Silver ride off. It's unlikely since by definition the fastest teams in qualifying should have got through but it has happened.
Today for example, GB went in the 7th / 8th place ride off and GB got a 3.45. That was faster than the time that Canada did to win the 5th / 6th ride off. If you were basing it on a purely TT format, GB would have come 4th.
This^
Don't know why rules changed, but it is now effectively a 4km time trial for all but the gold-silver race
If you can't win your semi, you now have to bury yourself still to make the 3/4 race, where you could have 'conceded' and rolled in saving yourselves. I think it also plays against the idea of a pursuit, eg going out super fast to try to get the others to have to change their plans and speed up beyond their comfort and hope they blow up worse than you do. You might win your race by winning the pursuit but still not progress.
Not a fan of the change
Standard of women's skateboarding is stunning.
Standard of women’s skateboarding is stunning.
I know, watching a thirteen year old riding a ‘board like she does is humbling, but she’s been riding since she was five. But it’s the fact she survived a horrible crash, was back on a board two weeks later with her arm in a cast, and pulls off a performance like that not that long after. Youngest ever Olympian, too.
I can barely stand upright on a bloody skateboard!
Youngest ever Olympian
British.
She's a vet compared to the 12yo Japanese girl that won silver.
I think the BBC said that the combined age of the podiums in the women's streetstyle and park was 86. Bloody kids!!
Is there a better Olympic spectacle than the weightlifting? Where else can you see the competitors compete for second place#. Finish their competition and then watch the star come out and win Gold o first lift, then obliterate records at a whim. You owe it to familiarize with the rules and watch on catch up. Just remarkable.
The skateboarding was a great watch. I’m won over, for sure.
It's brilliant. Right up until the point where I was just channel flicking one night and saw a weightlifter dislocate his elbow doing a lift.
I can just about watch it on highlights assuming they won't show something like that, but still the memory means I wince at every lift and watch from behind the settee. My arse is knitting buttons just thinking about it.
Still, quarter of a tonne give or take!
The skateboarding was a great watch. I’m won over, for sure.
No no no no no.
No place for any sports that need judges :rollseyes:
If you can’t win your semi, you now have to bury yourself still to make the 3/4 race, where you could have ‘conceded’ and rolled in saving yourselves. I think it also plays against the idea of a pursuit, eg going out super fast to try to get the others to have to change their plans and speed up beyond their comfort and hope they blow up worse than you do. You might win your race by winning the pursuit but still not progress.
I dont think your conclusion is right the winner will go through, but the sentiment is correct as there is jeopardy to going all out to catch a stronger team as you may blow up and do worse than your best and thus lose your chance at a bronze, which in my view is wrong and makes it a bugger's muddle. The previous system was better.
No place for any sports that need judges
You mean you don’t like horse dancing? 😳
I love them all, but there was a discussion a few pages back (as there always is around Olympics time) about 'judged' sports not really being sports.
Which is clearly bollocks
Teams have worked out how to beat us in the cycling then - just ride into us!
Just watching the woman's platform diving, absolutely incredible performance from the Chinese divers.
This surprised me. Has it really never happened before?
https://twitter.com/Tokyo2020/status/1423181987959873538
Teams have worked out how to beat us in the cycling then – just ride into us!
That was the rider in 4th place moving up, the Dutch rider behind jinked to try and avoid her, clipped the wheel anyway and went straight into GB.
It's actually quite upsetting that a simple crash like that can completely obliterate any chance of a medal. 4 years of work and training wiped out in half a second through no fault of your own. 🙁
a simple crash like that can completely obliterate any chance of a medal
Your surname is Roglic and I claim my five pounds. It’s a cruel sport sometimes.