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Not much it will do as the Brexit party are favourites 2:1 if you believe the media and consider the MEP elections.
Tempted to vote Labour but don’t like Jeremy. Although I’m a liberal conservative but teaching kids in deprived areas has made me a lefty.
Not voting Conservatives due to cuts to public services and schools.
Not voting for others as it’s a wasted vote.
Thought of voting of Brexit party so I’m not on the losing side lol. Yes it’s immature.
I want to move back to Bristol.
No votes are wasted unless you think no one else voting apart from Brexit party supporters is a good thing - imagine if they got 100% of the votes cast
Well I think the BP win, will either encourage more wins or rally up people against them across the country.
Labour are losing out to other smaller party’s after losing trust.
Voting labour. Hides under a rock.
Vote for LyingBloHard, he reckon we’ll save £350m a week.
It was on a bus, so it must be true dat
Isn't "she" standing as an independent 😂
Bleurgh. We're just up the road from Peterborough & the amount of favourable stuff about the Brexit Party being posted on local Facebook groups is depressing....
It really is a slightly backwards, inward looking area. I find it funny because people are always posting on the local facebook groups about what a friendly place it is to live, with a real community spirit etc. but I think that only applies if you a) grew up in the area so know local people from day one & b) are white.
Regarding the vote - no way I'd be voting for the Brexit party just to be on the 'winnnig side'. It sends the wrong message & reinforces the view that they are doing 'the right thing'.
While voting for smaller parties with lesser values might not end up with that party being in power, but if enough people did that it would send out a message that not everyone has the same values as those of the brexit party.
Regarding the vote – no way I’d be voting for the Brexit party just to be on the ‘winnnig side’.
Plus I doubt their main funder gives a toss about Brexit; Arron Banks is funding Farage to privatise the NHS, Brexit is just a vehicle to achieve that.
It's almost beyond satire, but still...
https://twitter.com/J_Bloodworth/status/1136613780647886848?s=19
Brexit party adverts encouraging remaindrs to vote lib dem shows they are more worried about Labour.
Glad I don't live there (not just coz of the tough choice in the vote 😉)
Bit of derailing but,
teaching kids in deprived areas has made me a lefty.
You teach in P-town? Which school?
Back on-topic. I live just outside 'borough so thankfully won't be caught up in the horror of living in the first place to have a Brexit Party MP (although our East Northants tory boy isn't much better). I like Peterborough, but it's veneer of multiculturalism might be about to be stripped away horribly...
Voting for a party with no policies or manifesto, with some shyster like Farage at the helm, has surely got to rank as the most spectacularly gormless thing anyone can do?
I really do despair in this country at the moment.
So a man who works for the company that bought down British Steel is about to voted into parliament? You couldn't make it up...
https://anotherangryvoice.blogspot.com/2019/06/the-great-faragist-deceit.html
Regarding the vote – no way I’d be voting for the Brexit party just to be on the ‘winnnig side’.
Blimey do people do that?
Well I voted labour and so did my old man. Meh.
I was in my oily scruffs from bike chain cleaning and my Dad was smart casually dressed when we went to vote and back to repairs.
The people from the Conservative party gave me a sneer lol and chatted to my Dad. I’m usually the smart casual dressed guy but it was funny to see their faces!
The MEP turnout was p-poor and yet today is the first time I’ve ever had to queue as it was so busy.
Will be an interesting outcome.
Given the last Labour MP is a convicted criminal who likened herself to Jesus, yeah, why not vote Socialist again, they deserve another chance right?! Amazing.
Quite right: all left of centre politicians are out because one is a criminal.
Labour take it.
I guess the people of Peterborough are not as led by what is printed in the Daily Express as 'grimep'.
Great news that the Brexit gits lost !
Fascists defeated on D-Day. I like the symmetry of it.
Thank **** for that!
An anti Semitic conspiracy loon. You must be so proud.
Given the choice was an overt racist, a covert racist and a nonenetity?
Interesting result, TBP failing to get over the line under almost ideal circumstances.
I guess that when it comes to Westminster elections the public is less swayed by single issues than the media write/think (not actually sire these are the same things). Tories will be terrified of an early election now if they weren't before.
On the other hand, shows how firmly fixed their vote is for a lot of the public. All the talk of death of the traditional parties is nothing more than that- I despair of this country (England) ever moving on from the two party/FPTP system.
An anti Semitic conspiracy loon. You must be so proud.
Not often these days you nail your colours to the mast, Captain.
I was pleasantly surprised by the result given the media attacks on Labour and not surprise that Farrage didn't speak. If the BP can't win in Peterborough then their chances can't be that good overall. I wonder the extent to which that chump Trump's comments on the NHS toxified it for the rightwing parties? Tee hee.
Exactly, time for labour to stop pandering to the false brexit narrative, and start winning the real arguments. That farage and the tories will sell of the NHS to American insurance companies, bring in privatisation to education, cut taxes for the wealthiest and inact even more damaging austerity and cuts onto the poorest, all the while under a backdrop of jobs lost to brexit.
This isn't a difficult war to win, but it has to be fought and not just capitulated in fear. It is about time labour looked to its guiding principles and started representing the people they claim to represent and not just enabling the alt-right propagandists.
It was close and I feel relieved. Yay!
Bit disappointed by the Labour win because after the MEP elections thought the pressure had ramped up enough on Corbyn to force him get his act together. I worry this will take the pressure off.
Fascists defeated on D-Day. I like the symmetry of it.
A good point, well made.
👍
Andy
Subscriber
Bit disappointed by the Labour win because after the MEP elections thought the pressure had ramped up enough on Corbyn to force him get his act together. I worry this will take the pressure off.
absolutely- the mental gymnastics to see this as a victory against a 2 opponents one with no manifesto, one with no leader, are in full force this morning
Bruan Curtice points this out
Unless and until the Conservative party can deliver Brexit, it is going to be in trouble. And it remains the case that it looks as though the Labour party’s position on Brexit is not anything like adequate for the Labour party to be able to retain the kinds of support they had in the 2017 election.
Ironically started to rain after Jeremy arrived.
Looking at the above comments, I don’t think Labour are not safe. It’s still very close and divided.
Just have to stop some local developers making a climbing wall centre in the middle of nature reserve...
Wow ... JC is heading to No. 10 ... 😀
Majority of 683 but it is still a win 😱
If Brexit Party is going to have a result like UKIP in the next GE then we shall have Corbyn as PM ... Simples. 😃
Me think to open milkshake takeaway shop 🥤 🤔.
Brexit party insiders said Labour’s reliance upon a mainly ****stani vote in inner-city wards had been the difference between the parties.
They’re nit racist though.
Exactly, time for labour to stop pandering to the false brexit narrative, and start winning the real arguments. That farage and the tories will sell of the NHS to American insurance companies, bring in privatisation to education, cut taxes for the wealthiest and inact even more damaging austerity and cuts onto the poorest, all the while under a backdrop of jobs lost to brexit.
This. Brexit or no bloody Brexit.
What rone said. Farage already lied and is financially supported by NHS privatisation pushers.
This. Brexit or
no bloodyBrexit. .
Me think to open milkshake takeaway shop
Good idea, let's hope it keeps you busy enough to reduce the amount of time you have to post shit here.
^ 10/10
I suspect that there was a fair bit of tactical voting going on just to keep TBP at bay, so not really anything for Labour to celebrate.
So with first past the post labour get the seat with 10,484 votes, 32%. Yet 23,301, 68% did not vote for labour.
Would proportional representation not work better?
I want to move back to Bristol.
I bet not just because of the local politics!
I moved from Bristol to Ely, a lovely place if you like flat featureless countryside.
Would proportional representation not work better?
Careful! you don't want to be accused of "Not Respecting" the outcome of the 2011 Alternative vote referendum...
Of course PR works better! You get a parliament that is reflective of the voters choices. Look to scotland where everything is sort of proportional. Under FPTP scotland would have had a massive SNP majority government. Under PR its been either a minority government or a slim majority.
Under PR we have significant green representation at holyrood and in councils. We also have tory representation when under FPTP they would have had none!
An anti Semitic conspiracy loon. You must be so proud.
Criticism of Israel is not Anti-Semitism.
Stick to harrumphing over the top of your Daily Mail in the Drawing Room.
Well at least you’re sort of near Cambridge...
Ok the riding was great in Bristol.
How long are you up here for?
We're in Ely longterm. It's actually a really nice place it's the fens and the lack of local riding that I'm not so keen on.
sootyandjim
Member
An anti Semitic conspiracy loon. You must be so proud.
Criticism of Israel is not Anti-Semitism.
Stick to harrumphing over the top of your Daily Mail in the Drawing Room.
Antisemite - to the gulag with you! ;-
Andy4d how would proportional reprensentation work in a single seat?
I think ive answered my question. There wouldn't have been a new vote in Peterborough Labour would have just allocated a new MP.
Depends on the system used. what happens. Multimember constituencies like Scots councils they just have a FPTP election if a seat is vacant. Hollyrood byelections that are fptp with a top up under D'hondt to make it sort of proportional they again hold a FPTP byelection IIRC
There are many systems of PR. Open list, closed list, multimember constituencies, FPTP with top up ie constituency vote adn list vote. Plus others no doubt
https://www.google.com/amp/www.thejournal.ie/how-does-prstv-work-2619448-Feb2016/%3famp=1
This is what we use.
Know what you mean by featureless landscape.
You need to travel a bit north, up to the Sandringham, Great Massingham, East Rudham, Fring, Docking, North Norfolk Coast to find a few rolling 'undulations'.
Good LBS in Chettisham. On the Lynn Road, behind the garage specialising in Mercedes CB6 1SA, JT Cycles (Jerry).
Message me if you want more info.
+1 for JT Cycles. Top bloke for building wheels, and he has a rather nice kit car.
What about riding in Thetford trail centre?
Could always road ride too.
@Cheers_drive did you used to ride the Chilli rides in the Cheesy riders?
I just remember the same name when I rode with Jim B.
I’m selling my mtbs to do more CX and road, it’s just to flat unless you travel.