[Closed] I'm not racist but....

I've heard from a few sources that the Russian presence has ruined Goa 🙁

That sort of thread title will have people pointing fingers at you....

Xenophobic?

I'm not racist but....

You're right. You're not. 😀

You're talking about spoilt, rich idiots ruining a particularly nice holiday destination.

Ever been to Abersoch? 🙂

Many of them aren't spoilt. From what I have heard, they are pimping, drug-pushing, local-abusing bullies.

Like some of the Muslims you get over here. 😯

Oh dear 😕

So, just like the Brits in Spain in the 80/90s.

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Surely not worse than the yanks holidaying in Mexico or the Dominican Republic?

The vast majority of Russian holidaymakers that I encountered on holiday in Goa

Are, as you seem to have recognised from your wording, not the same as "the vast majority of Russians" so you may get away with that comment.

Many years ago when I worked in a casino, the people who came in who were Chinese (okay, looked Chinese and had accents) were without exception rude and arrogant. After a while I realised that I was developing racist views towards Chinese people (i.e. including Chinese people I encountered other than over a roulette table). I had strong words with myself. I'm a sanctimonious guardian reader with white middle class guilt aplenty but still found it ridiculously easy to veer into irrational stereotyping. Scary really.

I believe some of the skiers returning back from European destinations are finding the new wave of tourists from the Eastern bloc quite hard going too. 😐

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Yeah, it's probably heading that way.

I believe some of the skiers returning back from European destinations are finding the new wave of tourists from the Eastern bloc quite hard going too.

Courchevelski and all that

Because everybody love the english tourists. 😯

I'm not sexist but... Deleted so cougar doesn't ban me

* waves at cougar*

New Money does that to people.

*waves at emsz*

Fun game.

I believe some of the skiers returning back from European destinations are finding the new wave of tourists from the Eastern bloc quite hard going too.

Queing you say... nope, survival of the fittest / rudest when it comes to European Ski resort apparently.

The vast majority of Russian holidaymakers that I encountered on holiday in Goa last week were a bunch of arrogant, rude, disrespectful, (to the locals) robbing barstewards. Horrible people.

Sure they were Russians?
I'm only asking because it's quite easy to roll up inhabitants of most of the former Eastern bloc as 'Russians'. They sound, and, to a degree, look similar.

EDIT: [url= http://singletrackmag.com/forum/topic/another-war-in-gaza/page/8#post-4400343 ]Actually, they were probably Israelis[/url]

Its the rise in post Communist Bloc 'chavism' .
Many of us Brits ( myself included) always surptised that there are others who are as equally badly behaved as we can be when abroad, another unique trait lost forever.

When did you get promoted Hun?

Or have I just not noticed? ( prolly that, I'm in a little pre valentines bubble ATM)

Few days ago. We had a party, there was cake.

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or

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The swear filter prevents me from responding appropriately to that.

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And I wasn't invited?

*sulks*

Congrats anyways ( maybe not though, don't envy your job 🙂 )

I'm gonna check my history make sure I've never been rude to you LOL

Because everybody love the english tourists.

Was my first thought too.

[i]Because everybody love the english tourists.[/i]

IME most Goan people do, in general, & lots of Goan people have UK friends.
We even got an invite to a taxi drivers house, which was a brilliant experience!

Stoner > I have that very tee-shirt.

Congrats anyways ( maybe not though, don't envy your job )

Thanks. I'm not sure I do either, you're a moany-arsed lot.

I have that very tee-shirt.

I'd never have guessed.... 😉

* pushes teeshirt under bed with foot*

Game tees are for nerds

Geek, dear, geek.

Don't make me get out the Venn diagrams.

Had a few holidays in Turkey and there are Ruskis aplenty there. They treat the Hotel Staff like sh1t. My Mate once said to this particularly overbearing, arrogant, rude Russian......'You've managed to learn every word in the English language except please!'

The response was' why should I say please to these people....they are scum!'

ever dived in Sharm el Sheikh? Their tourism board courted the Russians when the Italians stopped coming after the bombings, and it is to them exactly what Spain was to brits (cheap sun please, no foreign culture thanks) and is suffering some of the same results (though Sharm looks like its always appealed to that sort of market, all TGI Fridays, Hard Rock Cafe etc)

Loads of stunning Russian girls there. Most of them available at affordable rates 🙄

I believe some of the skiers returning back from European destinations are finding the new wave of tourists from the Eastern bloc quite hard going too.

It is a bit weird being in Austria and 90% of the people are Russian. Mind you I don't like being in resorts with loads of British people either.

Supposedly they tried to put a quota on how many Russians could come to Kitzbuhel as it was spoiling the experience for other nationalities.

I've spent a bit of time on every foreign trip telling people I'm not english, I'm scottish- you lot aren't that well regarded either.

And yes I am a racist 😉

i think the salient fact here is the op encountered some arseholes. the fact that they were russian arseholes isn't important.

if the op worries that he feels guilty because he doesn't like arseholes, i'm here to tell him that he shouldn't.

if the op worries that he feels guilty because he doesn't like russians, i'm here to tell him that he should.

i'm here to tell him that he should.

phew, thank god for that. The OP nearly got away with it there.

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oooo. Drac's "Vendetta Hammer"! ©

I chatted to a Russian family holidaying in Biaritz; interesting, articulate and polite people (and clearly on the heavy side of loaded).

How do you know that's a vendetta hammer

When I scrolled, the top half of that pic was off the top of the window. I wondered what the hell it was for a moment.

Looks more like a pope smiter to me

[i]if the op worries that he feels guilty because he doesn't like russians, i'm here to tell him that he should.[/i]

Thanks for that but I'm neither worried nor feeling guilty about not liking Russians. (I wasn't bothered about them either way until I came across them in Goa 3 years ago, but they get no better) I'll pass your comment on to Raj, Addie, Nilash, Kashu, Sanjay, Brom, Bobby & 'Mr Smiley Man' at the Viva Goa restaraunt when we go back next year. They don't like em either. 😀

Yeah it's a dodgy handle.

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LULZ

Looks like a nicely balanced Vendetta Hammer to me.

I hear the striking face is triple machined.

I bet it's got a strangely familiar dent in the other face of it too.

Although, a cheaper version is out now. It's only double machined.

And if you want, there's a bargain basement version (made in China) that's only drop forged.

Doh! Crappy phone network.

The OP nearly got away with it there

never a chance.

I'll pass your comment on to Raj, Addie, Nilash, Kashu, Sanjay, Brom, Bobby & 'Mr Smiley Man' at the Viva Goa restaraunt when we go back next year. They don't like em either.

great maybe you can all share a big xeno-naan

i had a run in with 2 russian gentlemen whilst on holiday in turkey.
9am in the morning and they were drunk on vodka whilst in the breakfast restaraunt.
they were picking food up with their bare hands and placing it back.
i asked them to stop doing it so i could get some bread....they refused.
the manager and security removed them.

Surely you just asked them if they'd like some fist pie for brekkie ton? 🙂

I go to Turkey every year to stay with friends and its full of Russians. You can spot them a mile of, they are usually wearing thongs, men and women. They are very rude and cheap and not very well liked by the locals. I heard a story about some women going into a shop and picking up fags and walking out the door. When they were caught they said they were all inclusive and they thought this ment it covered all the shops as well as hotel bar.

Where in Goa did you go to OP? thinking about booking some flights soon and chilling on Palolem beach.

Racism against the people who sacrificed tens of million's to save us against national socialism. Whilst the OP holidays in a destination where the locals are exploited/paid a tiny portion and then theres the fuel to get the OP there and back. Bet your pro-recycle at home though huh?

Reverse-arrogance. I wonder what the locals think of tourists.

Hmm, a family friend spent many years in Russia and Ukraine and came to the conclusion they were (in general) some of the rudest people going.

Though the story of how the Ukranian police dealt with the happy-go-lucky-peg-selling travelling-romany-types in Kiev would be a lesson our police should take on board!

I wonder what the locals think of tourists.

From a friend who lived out there for a few years, many Brits aren't exactly favourites there either.

One year I was in Ibiza. A local mistook me for spanish. I was chuffed.

I think their priority might have been saving themselves.

Racism against the people who sacrificed tens of million's to save us against national socialism.

The 15 or so Russians we and the misses had the pleasure of sharing an excursion with in the Dominican were rude, horrible people. I'm sure not Russians are the same.

Didnt it get to that stage with us for a while?

Op's said: I'm not a racist but.....

Bad news OP, you're a racist.

Racially motivated judgement on a culture of arse hats makes you worse than the culture your judging.

This thread is really low, even for this place..

British people with the neck to criticise foreigners abroad, that's rich..

Racism against the people who sacrificed tens of million's to save us against national socialism

And then went on to oppress millions of others with their version of real socialism.

 

British people with the neck to criticise foreigners abroad, that's rich..

Especially when talking about India...

esselgruntfuttock - Member
The vast majority of Russian holidaymakers that I encountered on holiday in Goa last week were a bunch of arrogant, rude, disrespectful, (to the locals) robbing barstewards. Horrible people.
Not surprisingly, very few Goan people like them!

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LOL lucky your not in East London then
Also don't have an holiday in Spain as Russians are now
second to own most properties in Spain after the UK

LOL lucky your not in East London then

Where by far the 'worst' people in terms of behaviour and attitude are amongst the white, working class 'traditional EastEnders' who seem to think they alone have sole right to live in the area.

Ah true. OP did you remind the locals that 'we' will strap them over cannons?

sacrificed tens of million's

I think you meant to say slaughtered not sacrificed. Uncle Joe was reckless and careless of his peoples lives and if you didn't advance into the firefight with or without weapon the NKVD would ensure you died.

Stop basing your knowledge of entire Russian thinking on one offensive as written by Anthony Beevor.

[i]Where in Goa did you go to OP? thinking about booking some flights soon and chilling on Palolem beach.[/i]

We've been to Candolim for the last 4 years & find it pretty much to our liking, busy but not Blackpool, plenty of good eateries & once you get off the Beach Road part of the beach it's reasonably quiet. Friendly people too (apart from the Eastern Europeans!)
From what I've read, Palolem beach isn't that quiet anymore but a good book is The Rough Guide to Goa which explains lots & seems to be a fairly true account, from what we've seen & it covers just about everything from backpacking to package holiday info.
We went up to Keri beach & Mandrem beach which were pretty quiet with less hassle from beach sellers than Candolim.
Already looking at flights & apartments for next year!

I have no useful contribution to make

Gets me everytime; brilliant.

1BTL

(^ amateur 😉 )

[i]Bad news OP, you're a racist.[/i]

Actually I'm not that keen on the French either but hey ho. 😉

hora - Member
No. Stop basing your knowledge of entire Russian thinking on one offensive as written by Anthony Beevor.

Try this guy instead

http://www.spartacus.schoolnet.co.uk/RUSsolzhenitsyn.htm