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Starts with one of them muttering '**** off' at the Chair under his breath on Zoom and rapidly goes downhill from there. A melee of angry gammons, angry old buffers, and an angry Chuckle Brother-a-like. 🙂
It's giving me traumatic flashbacks to my time as a parish council reporter on a local rag, where raging arguments over the state of the bus shelter were commonplace. Poor, poor Jackie Weaver...
Brilliant, just brilliant!
#whoisjackieweaver?
That's a bit hard work isn't it.
The only upside is that these people are off the streets for a couple of hours on Thursday nights, instead of harassing their neighbours about their bins or reporting forrin-looking people to the police.
I wondered if this would be on here, just watched it a few times, absolute gold. Probably the same as every parish council meeting across the UK. Although Aled Brewerton does seem like a very angry person 😂😂
Jesus. I broke inside 8 minutes.
What a cluster ****! These people hold actual power.
These people hold actual power.
Nah...that's the beauty of the parish council. Full of power-crazed ****ers wielding the sum total of zero power, unless this year's Britain in Bloom entry counts as such. 🙂
So that's what daily mail readers are like
This is all over Twitter. It’s only funny if you’ve never had to attend Parish council/ school governor/ resident association etc etc meetings.
So that’s what daily mail readers are like
yep
It’s only funny if you’ve never had to attend Parish council/ school governor/ resident association etc etc meetings.
This kind of stuff is gold to reporters, though. Imagine having to drive to Stoke Poges village hall on a cold winters evening, listen to an hour of drivel about verges, and realise you have nothing to write about.
The best ones are when local residents appear in person to beg the council to stop opposing their application for a porch, or a flowerpot, or something, and then get roundly abused for their trouble. 🙂
These people hold actual power.
Not really. That's one of the reasons I gave up being a town councillor - you get all the hassle from residents wanting you to fix stuff but don't have any real power to do anything.
Aled has some proper anger issues whilst Jackie has discovered to power previously only held by over zealous forum moderators, she is slamming the ban hammer!!! Good on her.
Jackie Weaver for PM.
This is comedy gold!
Wow. But then, Cheshire.
In my days of dealing with cycle races, we had to negotiate parish councils on a regular basis. Filled with angry little NIMBYs, fun-sponging their way through every aspect of village life they were well known for being a monumental hurdle to crest - ironically they have no real power yet there's a constant power struggle in and between themselves.
Normally conflicts like that would be very under the radar in the village hall and backstabbing chat down the pub but I guess virtual meetings have moved it worldwide! It's even appeared on an Australian news channel!
"Wow. But then, Cheshire."
Penketh Parish Council
(Penketh is in north Cheshire)
It’s giving me traumatic flashbacks to my time as a parish council reporter on a local rag, where raging arguments over the state of the bus shelter were commonplace. Poor, poor Jackie Weaver… It’s giving me traumatic flashbacks to my time as a parish council reporter on a local rag, where raging arguments over the state of the bus shelter were commonplace. Poor, poor Jackie Weaver…
Our best was a long running spat over someone spending £30 on a new printer from Argos without going through the proper channels. Mind blowing stuff.
It’s giving me traumatic flashbacks to my time as a parish council reporter on a local rag
*Salutes*
Never had the pleasure of attending a parish council meeting, but am a proud veteran of many district council sessions, including the ever-reliable planning committees.
These people hold actual power.
Actual LOL.
My theory is that the parish/town council system is an elaborate ruse to keep a certain calibre of busybody out of actual local politics.
It’s giving me traumatic flashbacks to my time as a parish council reporter on a local rag, where raging arguments over the state of the bus shelter were commonplace. Poor, poor Jackie Weaver… It’s giving me traumatic flashbacks to my time as a parish council reporter on a local rag, where raging arguments over the state of the bus shelter were commonplace. Poor, poor Jackie Weaver…
I used to try to get my word count up by just repeating quotes as well. 😎
Never had the pleasure of attending a parish council meeting, but am a proud veteran of many district council sessions, including the ever-reliable planning committees.
Ah, the days of looking through the agenda failing to find anything controversial, then ringing some cantankerous rent-a-moan to hype up some story about a new phone box.
I attend local action group meetings in my role and the councillors are just a right pain to deal with. The police are also at the meetings and I just feel sorry for them, as the petty things councillors bring up. They are generally angry little men who love a moan and feel as though they hold some degree of power. Most of their ire is directed towards the yoof.
So that’s what daily mail readers are like
😆
lasted about 30 seconds
I lasted about 20.
These people hold actual power.
Our local parish council took down a swing last year.
Someone had got one put up on a tree branch.
There was an objection to attaching things to the tree.
Keeps them off the streets I guess.
Can't remember anything else they did.
They are generally angry little men who love a moan and feel as though they hold some degree of power.
Yep, that Japanese Olympic bloke in the news saying women drag meetings out - that's not my experience sunshine.
Ah, the days of looking through the agenda failing to find anything controversial, then ringing some cantankerous rent-a-moan to hype up some story about a new phone box.
Wouldn't dream of such a thing.
Or nobody at the district council cares about the phone box, so you ring the parish councillors who hate anything those arrogant big-timers at the district council do as a matter of principle.
Good times.
lasted about 30 seconds
There is a much much shorter version which is really just the angry shouty bits.
The self-styled Handforth PC Clerk tells her she has no authority, she kicks him out the meeting and then says that a Chair can be elected and the Vice Chair starts screaming that he's there, he takes charge and yells at her to read the standing orders.
They do love their little processes.
Our best was a long running spat over someone spending £30 on a new printer from Argos without going through the proper channels. Mind blowing stuff.
Yep, processes. Gotta have processes.
I'll just leave this here. Actually a residents association vs. district councillors story, but it's one of the best:
https://www.wigantoday.net/news/public-notice-board-lock-change-row-erupts-765140
Bloody hell. This epic sadface picture of Dave deserves linking.
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I don't think he'd throw your football back if it went in his garden. 🙂
The police are also at the meetings and I just feel sorry for them, as the petty things councillors bring up
That was me once upon a time. The only contribution I can recall making was after the opening of the new cycle path that runs alongside the A82. The chairman was outraged that despite the council (which it wasn’t, it was Sustrans) spending millions on a cycle path nobody wanted, cyclists were still cycling on the main road. He was particularly smug when he quoted that case where a court ruled that cyclists had to use cycle paths if they were present. Not quite so smug when I was able to name the subsequent case where that was overturned by a higher court. He then claimed that the local police didn’t know traffic law at all, citing the ticket he had been given for contravening solid white centre lines despite there being no oncoming traffic, and was not pleased when told that they had to be obeyed at all times, not just when there was something coming the other way, the fact that they were generally on bends or other stretches with insufficient views ahead being beyond his grasp. I wasn’t invited back after that.
It’s giving me traumatic flashbacks to my time as a parish council reporter on a local rag, where raging arguments over the state of the bus shelter were commonplace.
Mrs Binners, for her sins, used to have a lot to do with local council meetings in a former job. She said that no matter what the agenda for the meetings was, it would ALWAYS end up with an argument about wheelie bin collections.
Her heart would sink as soon as the topic was mentioned as it would then go on for hours
viral via R4 Today prog (a rare actual funny bit inc memories of councilors going to sleep in meetings.. ) will have been on about 8:10 I'd guess.
It's pretty much how I imagine many of the discussions on here "YOU HAVE NO AUTHOrITY!" *turns back on camera
It is quite funny but also horrific. I dunno if they had some genuine grievance to start with but most of the men just come across as angry entitled bullies.
For my sins I used to go to the local residents association meetings when we first moved in to the village.
There is a very small triangle of turf that separates the pub from the bus turning circle, we're talking 2 x 4m. This used to get parked on and thus was a muddy mess. It was the RAs favourite topic of debate.
How do we improve the grass outside the pub?
Shall we put a tree on it? No, it will get knocked over.
Shall we put a bench on it? No, it will get knocked over.
Shall we put a couple of massive rocks on it? No, they will damage cars.
Shall we tarmac it? No, it will look ugly.
Shall we concrete it and paint it green? No, that won't stop the cars.
Shall we just leave it as it is and moan about it on the first Wednesday of every month?... Silence.
They also liked to talk at length about dog shit.
Every time I hear 'Parish Councillor' I remember a time when Durham Constabulary were trying to get use of a disused quarry behind my house to do firearms training, instead of travelling down to Catterick ranges to do it. Me & my mate from the pub down the road were invited to Catterick along with a few other people to experience what the noise levels would be like. A Shadforth parish councillor was also invited. We got to the range & were given a talk by the firearms trainer & offered a few shots of each of the weapons in the inventory. A 9mm H&K automatic rifle, a H&K pistol & an AI .243 rifle. The parish council guy was handed the pistol (after a proper firearms safety talk/demo) & within seconds everyone was on the floor, & I don't mean with laughter.
What a dipstick.
No the radio now. bbc 4
This epic sadface picture of Dave
"Make love to the camera, baby".
You're probably familiar with the "Angry people in local newspapers" group on FB?
Little Britain meets Zoom. Epic gammonry.
“Make love to the camera, baby”.
My sympathies to his missus if this is his love-face. 🙂
They also liked to talk at length about dog shit.
You see, it IS just like STW.
Make love to the camera, baby”
Turn and look over one shoulder, stare into the setting sun, whilst blowing your nails dry.
most of the men just come across as angry entitled bullies
For all that the nation's now rightly laughing at them, this is very true. Really nasty behaviour for anyone on the receiving end.
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That can’t be real. It must be performance art by some very talented actors.
Jackie Weaver was on Radio 4's womens hour this morning, Radio 1 have picked this up and made some clips using the soundbites.
I see both Aleds iPad and Jackie Weaver are trending on twitter, I will def use the Jackie Weaver reference in my next work meeting
For those curious about the actual legal standing of the claims during the meeting....
I have to deal with them all the time at work. Like most of life I suppose it's a real mix of people who care and utterly vile individuals who have not heard the word 'no' enough in their sheltered lives.
Down on the South Coast there is an extremely pleasant village where a lot of my friends live. It's packed with a mix of young people with families seeking an outdoor life, absent second homers and retired tory voters. The PC is obviously packed with the retired element who stifled every single good thing in the village.
A group of my mates got together, got themselves elected onto the council and slowly, through an agonising tedious process actually got a skatepark built and made some positive changes. It was harrowing for them to deal with the low level abuse and knock backs and completely shone a light on how people who don't have a vested interest in a future hold all the power at a local level.
Almost watched it until I got to the OP's second line racist description.
Usual thread content ensues.
Your noble efforts to make 'gammon' a race designation on this and other threads have been noted and minuted. Any other points of order?
😄
For those curious about the actual legal standing of the claims during the meeting….
See my previous comment on processes.
A lot of these people love the law, especially the little nitty-gritty aspects of it. But only when it suits them. Or, sort of related, when they are convinced they are right in the eyes of the law when actually either no such law exists or they're wrong.
They're the same people who tell you that you MUST ride in the cycle lane when one is present. However when they are invariably caught speeding in their car, it's petty officialdom gone too far.
Almost watched it until I got to the OP’s second line racist description.
Usual thread content ensues.
Don't be such a Karen.
You have NO authority here Cougar! 😂
You have NO authority here Cougar! 😂
If Handforth PC can have a 'virtual waiting room' for bolshy gammons 'people of puce', STW should have a 'virtual naughty step' for shitposters like me.
'People of Puce'
LOL. Chapeau
And yes, East Witts.
through an agonising tedious process actually got a skatepark built
are you me? This is also my experience (although in South Northamptonshire, also home to old retired Tories) really you’d have thought we were asking for a drug den/house of ill repute to be built, rather than somewhere our kids could play. One even said to me “but they’ll go there at all times of the day and night” as if that was sufficient reason, as if I’d suddenly see his reasoning “oh, of course how silly of me not to have foreseen that of course kids will want to use a skatepark...what was I thinking?”
I attend town council meetings and see nothing out of the ordinary in this video.
Almost watched it until I got to the OP’s second line racist description.
"Gammon" = "red-faced with anger." If one doesn't want to be referred to as a gammon then one can simply be a nicer person. It's considerably harder to stop being, say, African-American unless you're Michael Jackson, and he's dead now.
You have NO authority here Cougar! 😂
Hey now!
They’re the same people who tell you that you MUST ride in the cycle lane when one is present. However when they are invariably caught speeding in their car, it’s petty officialdom gone too far.
Like this one, who spouted off in a meeting about the dangers of cyclists riding through the village, then shortly afterwards...
https://www.cravenherald.co.uk/news/11352035.craven-councillor-banned-after-admitting-drink-driving/
Brads is more of a snowflake than a Karen surely
One even said to me “but they’ll go there at all times of the day and night” as if that was sufficient reason,
That's amazing. "You can't give them something to do, they might use it!"
I'm reminded of a good few years ago now, my then-local council built a skate park in the centre of town to try and drag the sk8ers off the various pedestrian-y surrounding bits where they were mowing down pensioners. It was duly ignored by all the kids, no-one could be seen to be uncool enough to use a council skate park. In a sudden flash of unbridled genius the council stuck a "BY ORDER: KEEP OUT" notice on the door, the skaters immediately broke in and were on it like a tramp on chips.
I know, it was an amazing moment. We can’t have a skatepark as kids will want to use it...
we would have these strange discussions where kids would be blamed for all sorts, always using pejorative language like “congregate” and “feral” but the idea of giving them something to do, absolutely not. The cognitive dissonance that takes must be hard to keep up.
It was the same back in my home town, built by the council = not used. They recently put a new playground in the Castle park, ripping up the old one that never got used except this time they put in a zipwire between two steel frames. The kids ignore it but the retired people love it! Even caught the local parish councillor on it in the dark while walking the dog. Took great pleasure in reminding him that he had opposed the building of it last year, sadly it was too dark to take a video of him on it for the town's facebook page.
Like this one, who spouted off in a meeting about the dangers of cyclists riding through the village, then shortly afterwards…
He was just trying to be a good citizen and keep people away from where he could run them over.
Brads is more of a snowflake than a Karen surely
Don't be so racist.
... and night”
Your friend also got floodlights installed. Excellent work. 😀
we would have these strange discussions where kids would be blamed for all sorts, always using pejorative language like “congregate” and “feral” but the idea of giving them something to do, absolutely not. The cognitive dissonance that takes must be hard to keep up.
The ability to complain about bored kids "hanging around" and "committing crime" while simultaneously denying them anything to do or anywhere safe to go.
We had the same with a skate ramp near mine. I wish they'd built a proper pump track as well though!
Snowflake hahaha if only you knew.
“Gammon” = “red-faced with anger.”
Oh aye whatever If I used a derogatory term for black men I'd be banned in a minute. Derogatory terms for white men pass the test though.
Typique STW non ?
"Gammon is a pejorative popularised in British political culture since around 2012. The term refers in particular to the colour of a white person's flushed face when expressing their strong opinions, as compared to the type of pork of the same name.
There is considerable debate over whether, due to its origins as a reference to skin color, the term is racist."
Oh aye whatever If I used a derogatory term for black men I’d be banned in a minute
Do you really think it's just the same?
Do you really think it’s just the same
What ? using a derogatory term that is based on someone's colour.?
Yup. You think using a jocular term about people from a typically highly privileged/dominant group with certain political opinions, a term which has been around for just a few years, is just the same as using long-standing racial slurs against a historically oppressed and still disadvantaged minority?
Really in your heart of hearts you think it's equivalent?
Black people have suffered/are suffering various injustices. Derogatory terms about or against black people need to be understood in this context.
I'm not aware that angry entitled ****s have been particularly oppressed since the term Gammom was coined. If Gammons are enslaved and oppressed (in real ways, not in imaginary ways by the liberal elite or whatever) for a few hundred years there may be some equivalence.
Comparing Gammon with offensive terms about black people is based on toddler level logic.
Mottled pink = colour
Black = colour
Therefore if a term about black = racist, then a term about mottled pink = racist because both are colours.
Jocular you say ? Really ? Not on STW for sure. It is what it is.
Plenty jocular terms are unacceptable, because they were based on race and people realised that was wrong.
Snowflake for one.
Therefore if a term about black = racist, then a term about mottled pink = racist because both are colours.
You mean a term about black and a term about white ? It's a term about people , not colours.
Seems hypocritical to me to deride a white person using a derogatory name because they assume that white person is an entitled racist/ priviliged / angry right wing etc etc
lol the "the term is racist." was added 2 weeks ago to the wiki - page. Do love an appeal to authority where if you wanted to just rewrite it to prove a point.
Poor oppressed Brads.
Someone’s going to chuck “professionally offended” in soon. 😀
Jeez ok you're soooo smart I give in. It's long been accepted that it is a term used to describe white middle aged middle classed men, White men basically.
At least I was right in my assumption at the thread content. I should be happy with that at least.
Poor oppressed Brads.
Hahahaha awesome, well done you ! oppressed ! that's such a good one. Mind tell everyone you bested some stranger online lol.
Mind tell everyone you bested some stranger online lol.
I’m telling the world I bested a gammon. Go me!
Thats nothing you should have been there when i mentioned at our Parish Meeting that the Village (uber upper middle class) would benefit from a Social Housing development...
On the upside it proved the newly installed defibrillator worked....
It's too good a topic to be diverted by such obvious whataboutery, suggest ignore?