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Let the police deal with it and risk it being gone or go round mob handed and politely ask for its return?
It depends how hard your mates are.
Police first, then if they did nothing I'd go and get it.
I saw someone cycling past me on my bike that had been stolen in a burglary.
I took it back and enjoy riding it to this day.
A mob handed ambush with enough show of force that they hand it over*.
*unless they are local and would then start a gang war that would destroy your life
Tough one this. An old school aquantance had this decision to make a few years back (although it was his kids bike, not his own). For his audacity, he was attacked with a cricket bat and died on the street. So I think I'd be opting for cops, although not sure I'd trust them to do anything about it.
My running buddy had his bike stolen in London, popped up for sale on ebay, he passed details onto police. He called them 2 days later, they said they'd closed the case as there was no leads! So, he told them he was going round to where the bike was listed for sale, at which point they shat it and told him not to, and in the end they went with him.
Was a couple of years ago, the same ebay account is still active selling bikes, jewellery, designer handbags etc. Dreadful.
Depends if my insurance had paid out or not I suppose.
Cops did nothing when I found my stolen bike chained up outside a chinese restasurant. chap said he bought it from the friday ads and the police belived him despite me having photographic evidence of me with the bike (custom paint job, custom bike I had cycled to Morrocco and back) which I went back to my house to get (pre smartphone). The best they could come up with was to ask him nicely for it back........this was quite some time ago when I was younger and I just accepted this and left the scene. Now things would be vey different!
Wait for them to be out riding it (or any other bike) and then a SMIDSY.
Impossible to answer without knowing a) How hard you and your mates are b) How hard the thief is and c) Who else the thief knows or is involved with.
If you are going to try and recover it yourself then make sure you properly scope the address first and know what you are getting into.
I had this, I went police. Got most of my stuff back, the police recovered a ton of other stuff for other people, and he got done for it.
I am not hard but even if I was, this way would still have been better
When I was 13 or 14 my Raleigh Tuff Burner (blue with yellow mags) got stolen from outside the arcades. The lad that stole it was a year below me and openly riding it round town, I finally caught up with him a week or so later - he'd parked it almost exactly where he'd nicked it from and was in the arcade playing Double Dragon. I schmacked him about a bit and then marched him a mile to the police station in a headlock. Happy days!
I'm not suggesting you do the same, especially not after reading kevin1911's post up there ^ but thought I'd share as it still makes me smile.
did he steal it from your house, if so he knows where you live...
[if not, bolt croppers to the achillies tendons will stop any further bike thefts]
Last year the boy had his bike nicked in London - found it on Gumtree the next day forwarded to the police with unique recognisable features and they refused to do anything as we didn't have the frame number.
Gumtree wouldn't even remove it from their listings even with a crime number.
If it's insured take the payout and move on
Many moons ago, my bike got stolen.
Wife saw it 6 months later outside a shop, told the shop owner, who called the cops and stopped the new ‘owner’ from riding off with it.
I got it back as i was able to give several identifying features.
The copper who dealt with it all had never known anyone to get a bike back after such a long period.
I’d go and take it back.
Wouldn’t risk my life for it though.
My cove hummer was stolen and I had a fair idea of who stole it (local smackhead) so with the aid of a big Bertha golf club I went and got it back. Nearest police station is 30 miles away so I wasn’t about to wait.
Wife saw it 6 months later outside a shop, told the shop owner, who called the cops and stopped the new ‘owner’ from riding off with it.
We recovered a few stolen bikes in similar circumstances when I worked at a bike shop. A couple of bikes were known to us - descriptions, pics etc circulated - a couple you could guess at. Things like expensive bikes being brought in for puncture repairs by folk who clearly didn't know what they were riding and the bike could be whisked off to the workshop while enquiries were made and police notified.
I wouldn't do any heroic "calling on the criminals" act although I know a few folk who've recovered bikes by arranging to "buy" them when they've seen them advertised. One guy simply rode off, one turned up with several mates in the vicinity and when he gave the nod, they all moved in and "advised" the seller to just hand it back...
i would go to the house and ask for it back. if refused i would force my way into the property and remove my property.
Yes, last November. The link below shows the full thread.
Idiot thief puts it on FB marketplace, we see it, inform Police, who are totally uninterested. I advise them that there is likely to be a breach of the peace when I go round to collect it, they tell me to not go round as I will be arrested if it kicks off, which is rubbish, as I'd be defending myself, while I beat the shite out of the thief.
In the end he was a wimp, who wouldnt fight his way out of a paper bag.
We complained to the Police afterwards, they did actually take notice, he was eventually 'offered' a community rehabiliation order, and fined £200 or something, rather than being taken to court for handling stolen goods.
Stolen bike found
I'd rather not grapple with anyone who might know where I live or might hit me. Can you just ride off on it if it's for sale? Do you see it locked up outside somewhere so you can incapacitate it with your own lock and then grind off their lock at your leisure once they've pissed off?
Local scrot stole my bike when I was 18, got the insurance and bought a motorcycle. I would not hesitate to do as Ton suggested but he'd likely throw a brick or something through my parents home as they lived in the same road.
Years after my parents went home to Ireland I bumped into him to discuss it with him.
I know a few folk who’ve recovered bikes by arranging to “buy” them when they’ve seen them advertised.
Very much this. Son told police he was off to 'recover' his stolen bike with a bunch of mates and to Gwent police's credit they waited around the corner whilst he went in and confirmed it was his bike. Not sure if the police were a bit concerned that 5 massive blokes from Bristol were about to descend on Caldicot, or if the seller was known to them.
Either way a result!
And if you are going to nick a bike on Friday, don't stick it on Gumtree the next day. You dumb ****.
C'mon OP, give us the back story!
Letter through their letterbox asking them to leave at the police station saying they found it or you'll brick their windows every week.
Likely involving these.
did he steal it from your house, if so he knows where you live…
This is one of the big problems.
Absolutely not the police.
Pal had a bike nicked in Edinburgh. Told her to check Gumtree. Turns out the thief was selling her bike and TEN others. Sadly the police still not interested, which I found just incredible...thought it would have been good for their stats to solve 10+ crimes. She eventually gave up on the police and gave up on getting it back as it wasn't worth much.
The copper who dealt with it all had never known anyone to get a bike back after such a long period
Mine was 3 years.
Got nabbed from outside a shop in town, 3 years later I saw a guy riding it, we passed him in our car & I got dropped off further down the road, as he approached I pressed the traffic light, which caused him to stop. I said it was mine, he said it was his. That's fine I said, I'll phone 999 now then and we can discuss it with the police. He gave it back there and then.
Not many Kona HumuHumuNukuNukuApuaA with Campag hubs and a weird extended crown set of Project 2 forks!
I've just read your thread about your bike recovery. Good work there.
You mention that the thief rang up the relative who got the address for you and sent them death threats! What happened after that? Did the police finally do something?
2x well used bikes stolen few years ago, culprits soon found.
My plans of kicking doors and heads in soon wained when I received the insurance offered and started looking at what to replace them with.
Thieves in question had been on a spree and pished a lot of people off.
Locals held a meeting and invited local PC, anger was vented but police didn’t seem to do anything until somebody distributed western style ‘wanted’ posters and the vigilantes helped the thieves fall down some concrete steps.
Thieves arrested for handling not long after as the police had suddenly found the resources to put them under observation.
I in no way blame the police for the delayed action, the Mrs works at the local station and knows how bad moral is due to Tory cuts.
I once had a bike nicked outside a cafe. My stupid fault for leaving it unlocked. However the thief actually out-stupided me by riding it to the police station. He was on bail and on his way to report to the station when he decides to nick a bike! I wandered there to report it and saw it parked outside. I've forgotten what story he tried to spin but the officer didn't buy it! He also reminded me how lucky I was...
And in answer to the OP, there's no way I'd confront a bike thief for fear of it backfiring
Impossible to answer without knowing a) How hard you and your mates are
Well, I’d recruit my kid brother, who’s 6’4”, and is a biker. He’s also a member of a bike club, most of the members of which are current and former members of HM Armed Forces, mostly Army. I’ve met many of them, they’re not people I’d want to be getting on the wrong side of.
When he got married for the second time, the reception was at the clubhouse, there were thirty-odd bikes outside his house, it made quite an impression on his neighbours… 😉
Earlier this month I found myself wearing nothing but a bath sheet chasing my bike down my road after some scrote broke into my kitchen. I had not considered what I'd have down if I caught up but given my attire was so limited greco-roman wrestling would have been on the cards...
It has to be worth going to the police and telling them you are going round to ask for it back, and can they assist? when there is someone in the area? provide serial number. photo etc, so they can identify it, if it's not there though..
Is there not some sort of STW stolen bike recovery posse for this sort of thing? shout out on here and they all turn up at designated time.
Is there not some sort of STW stolen bike recovery posse for this sort of thing? shout out on here and they all turn up at designated time.
Where are you OP? I'm guessing just enough people to look intimidating enough that if it is your bike they'll just hand it over but few enough that we can just look sheepish and melt away if it turns out to be the wrong bike once you've seen it close up.
What did I do? Insurance.
Happened to me in the early 1990s. Dynatec Diablo LX nicked out of my garage. Never seen again.
Yellow mini seen outside my house owned by mate of a 'mate'.
A good mate told me that the 'mate' miraculously found some money to go to a rave that weekend at the last minute.
Went to the cops but they didn't seem particularly interested.
Dad's advice:
1. bash his head against the wall until he gives the money or the bike to you.
2. burn the car.
Looking back i'm glad i didn't. At that age i'd broken enough people's bones by mistake playing sports, my luck i'd have done him some damage and ended up in more trouble than him. The 'mate' never spoke to me again and we avoided each other. But his Dad (local landlord) had suicided not that long before and he must have been through the shittiest time.
Luckily Mum had house insurance that covered it. The newer Raleigh wasn't as good though 🙁
You mention that the thief rang up the relative who got the address for you and sent them death threats! What happened after that? Did the police finally do something?
He got a Community Order. A fine and, I think, around 20 hours of community work. He denied sending the messages, the Police just didnt have the resources to check, if it had been more serious, he wouldnt have got off so lightly as he left a trail of evidence - FB ad, messages, even admittimg to the PCSO that he had tried to sell the bike.
[if not, bolt croppers to the achillies tendons will stop any further bike thefts]
Alternatively both thumbs.
I’d recruit my kid brother, who’s 6’4”, and is a biker. He’s also a member of a bike club,
My son is in an MC and most of my mates as well.
I'd never be spoken to again if I called the cops lol.
So many hard men who knew
Was just thinking that.
Not a fan of thieves but vigilante justice even less.
How many thumbs have actually been removed or are you just fwapping in your bedrooms at the thought of it?
It's not really a case of being hard, you're simply being facetious / clever/ smart arsed or whatever STW attitude.
It's simply a case of people knowing the police can't or won't do anything about it so taking your 5k bike back from some thieving little **** is a better option.
Many who are insured will just let them keep the bike and get a new one, some can't afford to do that, so why should they ?
One guy I know was standing watching the thief riding his bike while he called the cops. They warned him if he took it back he could be charged with theft as they would need to prove the thief did't own the bike ! I mean, who would stand for that.?.
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it is not a question of being a 'hard man'. it is just being a stand up kind of bloke and not letting people take the piss.
thieves are not too bothered by the police as they know they will just get a warning.
if you face them up and let them know you are gonna cause them grief, that is a different thing for them. makes em worry and think a bit.
One guy I know was standing watching the thief riding his bike while he called the cops. They warned him if he took it back he could be charged with theft as they would need to prove the thief did’t own the bike ! I mean, who would stand for that.?.
A courier mate in London had his bike stolen - opportunistic "I'll just grab that while it's unlocked for 5 seconds". My mate had literally just leant it against a post to lock it up and was getting the lock out. He gave chase in his helmet, cycling shorts, courier bag etc and in a panic after a few seconds the thief dropped the bike and started legging it. Police got involved at this point (it was near a major station so there was a significant presence) and spent the next 10 minutes interrogating my mate as to if he could prove he owned the bike.
It was like - there's two people here. One wearing a helmet, cycling shoes and clothing and carrying a courier bag. One slightly overweight yoof in tracksuit bottoms. Who do you think owns the bike...?!
Lots don't trust the police full stop. A guy on a motorbike started shouting abuse at my grandson last night, (he adjusted his motorbike helmet when riding so older guy starts ranting about giving bikers a bad name etc !!! wtf)
Grandson stopped and asked said ranting old bloke why he was following / chasing him.
Cops drove up, told old guy to be "on your way sir" then went through every single detail of my grandsons (fully legal) 125 motorbike , plus questioning him about where he was going etc.
The guys threats didn't interest them.
Do you thing my grandson will be inclined to trust the police if his mountain bike gets stolen ?.
This thread should be as much about police failings as it should about getting yer bike back.
if you face them up and let them know you are gonna cause them grief, that is a different thing for them. makes em worry and think a bit.
Which is fine, until you meet someone who is less stable and/or more stabby than you.
Years ago a mate had his Kona nicked out of my garage (I'd been working on it), we found out who'd nicked it later that day by asking around & fortunately we knew where the thief lived. My pal, who wasn't a police officer back then & is probably the shortest sargeant the police have ever employed, went to his house & asked the dad where his son was (the dad was a previous thief cos he'd nicked stuff from an outbuilding of ours years before this), the son wasn't in but dad told him who he was with & in what car. Luckily for my mate he saw the car by the village green later on so he went up to the kid who'd nicked it & told him in no uncertain terms that he wanted his bike back pronto. The kid said he'd sold it so my pal told him to unsell it. (think of that scene in 'Lock Stock & Two Smoking Barrels' but on a much smaller scale), he got the bike back later that night.
Had anyone considered the possibility that the OP is a thief trying to work out whether someone is gonna pwn him with bombers?
The guys threats didn’t interest them.
I'm not here to defend the cops but: you're a cop in a car. You come upon some old dickhead in a car and a young dickhead on a bike yelling at each other in the street. The guy on the bike says the old guy was threatening him. There is no evidence of this. What do you expect them to do?
Did the motorcyclist kick off when the driver was sent on his way? Was it really necessary for him to stop and get into it with the driver in the first place...?
I’ve had bikes stolen on three separate occasions and had my property recovered once.
First time I was around 18 and almost a year after it had happened saw someone of a similar age to me riding it. He wasn’t riding particularly fast so I jogged after him and took it back off him, didn’t really have it out just said it was mine and I was taking it back. A few days later he came into the bike shop with his dad (not sure how he knew I worked there) ranting he wanted it back as his son had legitimately purchased it off a bloke in a pub for £50. I explained that I had legitimately purchased it trade from the shop he was stood in which weakened his argument somewhat and they left.
Second time I was having a pint with a mate outside a pub in Holborn and looking at my road bike locked to a railing across the road. A van pulled up to the junction momentarily blocking my view and as it pulled into the junction it took me a couple of seconds to register the bike had gone. Someone had stepped out of the van with a set of bolt croppers and taken the bike in seconds. A mate gave chase to the van as I phoned the police and gave them a partial number plate and description of the van that had pulled onto Holborn now. They weren’t the least bit interested, even though traffic at that time of day (and the usual police presence in that area) meant they could easily apprehend them. They just told me to go to a station and report it.
Third time we had our shed broken into and £8k worth of bikes stolen while we were away. The Police didn’t even want to come out. I got an anonymous email from a police officer suggesting I check out a certain bike shop so took a mate along, but there was nothing to suggest they were up to anything dodgy.
Unfortunately in most bike theft cases, the only thing the Police are useful for is supplying a crime number so you can claim on your insurance.
I’m not here to defend the cops but: you’re a cop in a car. You come upon some old dickhead in a car and a young dickhead on a bike yelling at each other in the street. The guy on the bike
The older guy was also on a bike and was standing shouting at my grandson when the cops rolled up.
He stopped because he was outside his girlfriends house. The guy followed him the whole way.
What would I expect? I’d expect home to be treated with respect instead of instantly being a potential collar.
There was no excuse for it.
He should have asked what had been done about the couple who drive into him and did a runner two months ago ,the ones the police told him they could find no problem ( He gave them their address ffs)
Nothing done.
No defence
Find your own bike is still my advice
So many hard men who knew
True - there's some hard IT workers out there. But in fairness we are talking about bike thieves here - absolute lowest tier possible, other criminals must laugh at them. It's not like going round for a straightner with a gangster's crew is it?
Wouldn't be my first port of call, admittedly - the small chance of something going catastrophically wrong (eg cricket bat story above) isn't worth it outside of huge emotional attachment to a bike. But it's not some ridiculous posturing to say you'd go and take it back - it's way more likely in the hands of a complete casualty than with some hardened crim.
My wife's nearly new early 90's £500 uninsured Marin Eldridge got pinched, so when I heard from an acquaintance where it might be I was happy enough to cough up £50 to the fence to get it back with no hassle - the parents of the kid who actually nicked it gave ended up giving me £60 as compensation 😀
imagine this scenario.....
you are at a bike park, sat having a coffee after a ace ride.
your bike is in a rack, and someone walks over to the rack, and removes your bike, and starts walking away with it.
what are you going to do ?
We aren’t talking about that though, this is if the bike has gone and how best to get it back, not stopping the theft in the first place.
In your situation though, what would you do if the thief pulled a knife? All whataboutery of course, but I’d say going after the thief later increases the chance of that, or similar, happening.
If he looks like you Ton, lend him an allen key to get the front wheel off so he can get it in the car 😉
what are you going to do ?
This isn’t hypothetical, this happened to me. Sat in pub. See bloke fiddling with my lock. Run out, he’s got it unlocked in his hands by this point. I didn’t approach immediately, I stopped about 2 metres short. “Oi that’s my bike”.
A woman, with him, pipes up, “no it’s his!”
“Is it farrr….” Replies I.
Fortunately at this point a couple more punters stream out the pub.
They drop the bike and leave.
imagine this scenario…..
you are at a bike park, sat having a coffee after a ace ride.
your bike is in a rack, and someone walks over to the rack, and removes your bike, and starts walking away with it.what are you going to do
I certainly wouldn't do what I didn't do to to the chap in my garden who didn't have his fingers broken when he didn't attempt to strike me.
Not an IT Worker
you are at a bike park, sat having a coffee after a ace ride.
your bike is in a rack, and someone walks over to the rack, and removes your bike, and starts walking away with it.
There was an interview with an ex London bike thief in The Albion magazine. Just dug it out.
[i]"If I've got a cordless angle grinder and I raise it to your face, you're not going to keep coming towards me".[/i]
Out of interest,
What do we think is the likelihood of someone following through with that threat?
It's easy to play the hard man and wave about an angle grinder like you've just fallen out of Gears of War in order to discourage / intimidate someone. It's a whole other proposition to actually take it to someone's face. There's quite the gulf between 20 hours of community service and life imprisonment over, what, 50 quid for a fenced bike?
Reckon I'd be more scared of someone armed with a Maglite than an angle grinder.
For me, I think the odds are not favourable enough to chance they'll suddenly start behaving like a responsible citizen. Dunno though.
When i was 16 i lived at home with my 18yr old brother. We let a room out to pay towards the costs. One of the tennants arranged to meet me one day and robbed the entire house, including my new racer.
He was well known locally so it was only a matter of time. My brother and a mate spotted him whilst driving along. They dragged him behind some garages, kicked the daylights out of him then threw him in the car and took him to the copshop. When they got there the police were more interested in my brothers car. Aparently a member of the public reported a disturbance involving his car and the police were looking for him.
After a bit of discussion my brother and his pal were sent on their way and the lad got prosecuted for it. I got £5 per month for a year or so if i remember rightly.
This would be about 1991
what would you do if the thief pulled a knife?
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what are you going to do ?
I'm 11.5 stone of pure wimp and never been in a fight in my life. What do you think I'd likely do? You are seeing it through different eyes to some of us.
There was an interview with an ex London bike thief in The Albion magazine. Just dug it out.
“If I’ve got a cordless angle grinder and I raise it to your face, you’re not going to keep coming towards me”.
That's going to work really well as a deterrent, isn't it?
Me : Go on then , take the bike (while taking phone out of my pocket.
Him : Hold up, I just need to put this angle grinder somewhere while I remove remove your bike.
Me : Hello, police, I've just been attacked with an angle grinder. I'm following the assailant who is slowly wandering down the street trying to hold a running angle grinder and my bike............. ah don't worry, he's put it in his rucksack now. (Muffled thuds and swearing.)
What do we think is the likelihood of someone following through with that threat?
It’s easy to play the hard man and wave about an angle grinder like you’ve just fallen out of Gears of War in order to discourage / intimidate someone. It’s a whole other proposition to actually take it to someone’s face. There’s quite the gulf between 20 hours of community service and life imprisonment over, what, 50 quid for a fenced bike?
Reckon I’d be more scared of someone armed with a Maglite than an angle grinder.
I don't think there'd be much chance of him trying to cut my face off (though worse things have happened, for less reason).
I do think he might take a swipe at me to chase me away, and end up inadvertently slicing through an artery or three.
I did once chase after someone after seeing him break a cheap lock on a bike, when he stopped and said "I've got a knife!" I backed off sharpish.
He was wearing a t-shirt and put his hand to his armpit to grab the 'knife' so I didn't really believe it at all... not taking chances though!
I'm ten stone something and not very good at fighting (probably, not really tried it since I left school)
Walking through my university campus many moons ago two blokes were hacksawing a bike lock, lots of people about, no-one doing anything.
I walked over and asked what they were up to (politely)
They showed me a broken kwy and said it was their bike and they were trying to get the lock off.
Fair enough, carry on.
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Why was I the only person to challenge them?
And would I have done that to two blokes late at night in a dark alley rather than Broad daylight with a dozen witness? Maybe not.
That’s going to work really well as a deterrent, isn’t it?Me : Go on then , take the bike (while taking phone out of my pocket.
Him : Hold up, I just need to put this angle grinder somewhere while I remove remove your bike.
Me : Hello, police, I’ve just been attacked with an angle grinder. I’m following the assailant who is slowly wandering down the street trying to hold a running angle grinder and my bike…………. ah don’t worry, he’s put it in his rucksack now. (Muffled thuds and swearing.)
Haha, maybe. But said thief has more likely just used the angle grinder to remove the D-lock from your bike (so not a perfect parallel with Ton's scenario...). And they are quite quick to switch off.
If I knew where the bike was, first call to police, no action, then I'd get a few mates and go and get it. I'd let the police I was going.
If I'd seen it ridden, I'd chase them down, but just slow enough so they died of a heart attack trying to get away.
The odd breaker bar, a few mates and my own battery angry grinder.
“If I’ve got a cordless angle grinder and I raise it to your face, you’re not going to keep coming towards me”.
Id pull out my 9 inch cordless angle grinder and in my best Ozzie accent i'd say " call that an angle grinder?" Gnnarrrr
I’m ten stone something and not very good at fighting (probably, not really tried it since I left school)
It doesn't matter, Adrenalin takes over, and even a few whacks to the face you'll not really feel at the time. Just get in close and bite the bastards nose off 😆
I would say Police. But be prepared to pester them and help with their enquiries. Get an officers name who is responsible and make it a priority for them. They will need proof it's yours.
Also, this covers you legally if the guy decides to take you to court for assault etc.
And would I have done that to two blokes late at night in a dark alley
Depends whether you think or just react, my experience at uni when I was a 10.5 stone, er gym bunny actually. Two youth having a go at my lock, bike stashed I thought out of sight, middle of the night, unlit snicket. Shouted and ran at 'em, and they ran off. Luckily, given I'm Walter the softy basically.
My eldest's bike (Scott Scale 24) got nicked earlier this year. School holidays, he was in a holiday care programme based in his own school hall. I got a call mid-afternoon from one of the staff, he'd gone outside to ride his bike and it was gone. They'd done a lap of the grounds, couldn't see it. They said he'd used it less than an hour before, so the theft was quite recent.
I figured it's school holidays, must've been nicked by some bored scrotes loitering in the school grounds. There are two parks not too far from the school. I was working at home, also not far away, so jumped in the car and headed to the closest park where I spot four yoofs hanging around on a distant bench. They have some bikes. I started walking to wards them, was fairly sure one of the bikes on the ground was my son's. Also noted that the four lads were probably 16-18. One of me, four of them, didn't really fancy getting face to face with them.
Luckily I saw a mate doing a spot of rugby league training with his mates and their kids. He's a big lad, as are his mates, so I quickly asked him to keep an eye on me and come over if anything kicked off. The yoofs clocked me making a beeline towards them and started moving away. I confirmed it was my son's bike (not a common bike here, also way too small for the yoof), shouted "oi", the lad pushing it just put it on the floor and they walked quickly away. Result! Probably about an hour from theft to recovery.
Definitely try the police first OP. If that didn’t work I’d go round posing as a potential buyer and then just ride off. If unable to do that I’d consider nicking it back. Was it stolen from your house originally or somewhere else?
[quote=Ton]i would go to the house and ask for it back. if refused i would force my way into the property and remove my property.
Its a bit easier to do or say when you are a huge ex rugby forward 🙂 See us fancy boys in the backs? we got no chance
I have taken or attempted to take stolen motorbikes off scrotes. Once successfully and once I had to beat a "strategic retreat"