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[Closed] If you had £30,000 in cash, how would you go about doubling it?

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Firstly I don't have 30k, but I am interested in the thought that money makes money, and £30k is obtainable for many.

Interested in all answers, Red/Black, Nag in the 4.30 at Kempton, legitimate business, stocks/shares...whatever.


 
Posted : 24/08/2015 10:23 am
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red.....no, black


 
Posted : 24/08/2015 10:23 am
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I'd add another £30k.


 
Posted : 24/08/2015 10:25 am
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depends how much risk you're prepared to take. are you prepared to end up with £0


 
Posted : 24/08/2015 10:26 am
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If there was a fool proof method everyone would be at it 😆

Insider trading seems to be the best bet.


 
Posted : 24/08/2015 10:31 am
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If it was that easy there wouldn't be any poor people (or rather there would and we'd have rampant inflation).

The Red / Black option is probably the easiest, you've got about a 49.something chance of success, but I doubt many high street casinos will let you rock up with a suitcase full of twenties and put the lot on Red.

It's hard at the moment with such low interest rates to just "make money with money" even stocks and shares still take regular shits like they did today and it's not the fast paced "buy buy, sell sell" market you see on films, not without huge risk anyway.

I heard a couple of years ago about someone who sunk a small fortune into an autoclave for carbon fibre and was making a fortune from the 'carbon fibre revolution' but I'd guess that ship has sailed now CF is so common and made in the Far East.


 
Posted : 24/08/2015 10:31 am
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fold it in half.


 
Posted : 24/08/2015 10:32 am
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Posted : 24/08/2015 10:37 am
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[url= https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Matched_betting ]matched betting[/url]


 
Posted : 24/08/2015 10:39 am
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Lay it in front of a mirror


 
Posted : 24/08/2015 10:39 am
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One Direction concert tickets.


 
Posted : 24/08/2015 10:42 am
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I hear buy to let is a good bet.


 
Posted : 24/08/2015 10:43 am
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Ponzi scheme.


 
Posted : 24/08/2015 10:45 am
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For a start, you wouldn't need £30k.

Just take your fool-proof method, apply it to the change from the back of the sofa and eventually you'll have doubled your way to whatever sum you want!


 
Posted : 24/08/2015 10:46 am
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Put it in Zopa and wait 15 years.


 
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Posted : 24/08/2015 10:51 am
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With £30k to invest you could rent some properties and have a go at cannabis farming. You would more than double your money. Definitely not legal though but doesn't seem to stop them cropping up everywhere.


 
Posted : 24/08/2015 10:51 am
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Depends on how long you want to wait.

Basically you need to match need with production/service. So look for gaps between the two and act fast.

The biggest gaps are in emerging markets, geographically and technologically.

But you have to act fast, so don't choose something that requires long set up times and sunk capital.

The riches people I know were able to do this by being in the right place at the right time and/or came to the market with disruptive technology that broke the standard models, thereby creating a new market.

Be fast and flexible, as soon as your seen to win, others more capable or bigger will squash you.


 
Posted : 24/08/2015 10:54 am
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cannabis farming

cropping up

😉


 
Posted : 24/08/2015 10:56 am
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I got a call out of the blue from someone in an busy-sounding office who said they could do this for me no problem in 30 days or so...something about shares in emerging markets. Seemed plausible.


 
Posted : 24/08/2015 10:58 am
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I didn't say it was easy, I was just intrigued as to how people would try to go about it.

I know a chap who seems to get in on emerging trends very early and capitalise, while still getting out before it implodes. He was doing very well as a Solar panel supplier when the tariff was so good, and got out quick when they changed it all.
He is now selling electric conversion kits for bikes, and is doing well from that too.


 
Posted : 24/08/2015 11:01 am
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clone tool in photoshop, or copy & paste


 
Posted : 24/08/2015 11:03 am
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Depends on your acceptance of risk really.


 
Posted : 24/08/2015 11:04 am
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Give it to me to invest on your behalf*

*Remember the value of your investments can go down as well as up and you may
get back less than you invest.


 
Posted : 24/08/2015 11:07 am
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The big ways are going to be legal vs illegal.

If the former, I'd take the long view and go into stocks/bonds and look to get the money out in 10+ years. If the latter, but a lot of charlie and try to offload it at socialite parties.


 
Posted : 24/08/2015 11:07 am
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Future classic car? Or bikes? Ignore all these people saying red or black, put it on zero. That way, you get 36 times your stake when it comes up. Fact.


 
Posted : 24/08/2015 11:07 am
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The same way these two muppets did it....

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Posted : 24/08/2015 11:11 am
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Classic porka if you can find anything under 30k.
Migrate smuggling if your brave


 
Posted : 24/08/2015 11:12 am
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Quantitative easing


 
Posted : 24/08/2015 11:18 am
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Get a job?


 
Posted : 24/08/2015 11:19 am
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Get a job?
That's not a bad shout 💡
£30000 worth of training is quite a considerable sum, could that double an income quickly + long term benefits too


 
Posted : 24/08/2015 11:25 am
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Buying and selling something especially if you have an interest in the product (and self control 😳 )


 
Posted : 24/08/2015 11:31 am
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Personally rather than trying to double it I would look at halving it.
It'll be both easier and more enjoyable.


 
Posted : 24/08/2015 12:01 pm
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Buy my bike for 30k then sell it for 60k. EASY!!


 
Posted : 24/08/2015 12:27 pm
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Semi serious answer.
Bound to be more than this

The shorter the time frame the higher the risk you need to take, so ...

Very short term
- Red or Black

Near medium term
- one or two low priced stocks - hope for price rise

Medium term
- one or two individual blue chip stocks, re-invest dividends

Long term
- some sort of stock market tracker

Very long term
- any fixed rate, low risk investment that returns higher than the rate of inflation - Gilts probably. Keep re-investing.
- buy property

Big risk that is unlikely to double the money
- buy premium bonds. You only risk the rate of inflation and it may never happen
- buy lottery tickets. you risk losing the lot and it's unlikely to happen


 
Posted : 24/08/2015 1:19 pm
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Bog standard savings account for a century or two?


 
Posted : 24/08/2015 1:37 pm
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Actually a bog standard savings account is probably going to give you a lower return than inflation, so you will soon end up with less than you started.


 
Posted : 24/08/2015 1:42 pm
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At 1% interest, you'd double the money in 300 years but, as you say, it will be worth less than what you put in.

Time machine, and buy a house in the 90s?


 
Posted : 24/08/2015 1:44 pm
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Use it to get mahoosive breast and todger implants and become a niche sex worker


 
Posted : 24/08/2015 1:51 pm
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Venezuelan bond CDS. At 5000bps it would only take about 2yrs to double your money, guaranteed!

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Posted : 24/08/2015 2:04 pm
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Invest in African stocks.

I've been following some news feeds, and watching various companies who have shares available and Africa is the new Chia.


 
Posted : 24/08/2015 3:03 pm
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Markets are on the slid at the moment so invest in a tracker when they get low.


 
Posted : 24/08/2015 8:03 pm
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I doubled a sum of several thousands over 5 years by sticking it in Fundsmith and forgetting about it.

https://www.fundsmith.co.uk/fund-factsheet

Other fund investments linked to different stock market indices over the same period are showing a healthy return but not as much.


 
Posted : 24/08/2015 8:38 pm
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At 1% interest, you'd double the money in 300 years but, as you say, it will be worth less than what you put in.

70 actually


 
Posted : 24/08/2015 8:51 pm
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Gold anyone?


 
Posted : 24/08/2015 8:57 pm
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the following is legal but not pretty or morally brilliant..

set up a limited company..rent a large warehouse.. larger the better..put down 3 months rent next payment due in 3 months..

charge tyre fitters 2 quid per tyre delivered to recycle their tyres..you ll easily get 15k tyres in 3 months.. store them in warehouse..take all the income and distribute to the share holders as divdends monthly..

after 3 months declare company insolvent enter into a voluntary agreement.. keep accepting tyres.. total outlay 3 months rent and some phone calls total income 2 quid for every tyre..

walk away let someone else sort out the tyres whilst you count the 30k


 
Posted : 24/08/2015 11:54 pm
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Hold a raffle with 10k of it as prize money, sell 4000 tickets at 10GBP each.

Add some disclaimer on the ticket that if 4000 tickets are not sold the raffle is null and void with a refund.
At worst you keep your money minus printing costs, cushdey.


 
Posted : 25/08/2015 12:21 am
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Set up a charity. Get publicity followed by govt and sucker rock star funding. Thereafter live like royalty on other people's money.


 
Posted : 25/08/2015 5:00 am
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Invest in a small energy drink co with a massive ad budget.

Those who invested just $10000 in monster energy drinks 9 years ago, their shares would now be worth just shy of $half a million today 😯

I fear my advice is 9 years out of date.


 
Posted : 25/08/2015 6:36 am
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The 1999 dot com boom allowed for such growth but soon afterwards it reversed. Who has heard of Baltimore Securities or Durlacher these days? Shares that were going for 40 quid were down to pennies within a year. I had a very jittery but lucrative six months and blew the lot on a family world tour.


 
Posted : 25/08/2015 7:30 am
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That is a pretty cool thing to blow a load of stock winning on!


 
Posted : 25/08/2015 7:46 am
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If you're happy with violence and intimidation become a loan shark?
For slightly smaller returns and a thin veneer of respectability you could be a pay day loans company. Advertise with puppets to show how friendly you are. 😆


 
Posted : 25/08/2015 8:02 am
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At 1% interest, you'd double the money in 300 years but, as you say, it will be worth less than what you put in.

70 actually

ISA at 1.5% compound and it would take about 45. 2.5% (assume interest rates will rise) and it'll take about 30.


 
Posted : 25/08/2015 8:25 am
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70 actually

I've no idea how I got 300 and didn't immediately think it was wrong. I'm hanging my head in shame.


 
Posted : 25/08/2015 10:25 am
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300 years is probably optimistic based on current interest rates


 
Posted : 25/08/2015 10:29 am
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I doubled a sum of several thousands over 5 years by sticking it in Fundsmith and forgetting about it.

Another shout out for Fundsmith. Terry Smith is as no-nonsense as they come and he consistently delivers.


 
Posted : 25/08/2015 10:52 am
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totalshell it is very illegal, no permit for storing waste, illegal waste transfer station, waste carriers license????, we have jailed people for that and then the cost to the taxpayer to clean it all up.


 
Posted : 25/08/2015 10:57 am
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If you have £1,2 million I have a 99% foolproof way to turn that into 3 to 5 million in 12 to 18 months....


 
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Posted : 25/08/2015 11:18 am
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Who ever said "training" was probably right.

Invest it in yourself and you should easily be able to get a 10k pa pay rise. Doubling your money in 6 years is a pretty healthy return.


 
Posted : 25/08/2015 11:24 am
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Good point. MBA, then bollocks up a succession of companies with your superb managerial style, moving up before the crunch each time.


 
Posted : 25/08/2015 12:16 pm

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