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Selling a bike on Pinkbike and get contacted by someone in Thailand. As the prospect of sending something halfway around the world doesn't exactly interest me, I reply by saying that he can have it if he organises and pays the courier and pays me by Paypal gift. I've got a bike box so said I'd pack it but I'm not being held responsible for damage.
Oddly, he still seems interested. What have I missed? How am I about to lose out? (Assuming he doesn't have a heart attack at the price of shipping) I'm struggling to see a scam....
It's not his Paypal a/c. It's a hacked account.
Paypal gift funded by credit card. claim account was hacked and chargeback from credit card company.
http://forums.watchuseek.com/f2/beware-paypal-gift-chargeback-fraud-will-defraud-sellers-784828.html
Bye bye bike.
Bye bye payment when the chargeback lands.
Paypal gift payment arrives - transfer the money out of paypal. Unlink your paypal from any bank accounts and leave nil balance, or even close it - what is there to charge back against?
Apart from the buyer being tother side of the world, how does this different from any other private PayPal transaction then?
Paypal gift payment arrives - transfer the money out of paypal. Unlink your paypal from any bank accounts and leave nil balance, or even close it - what is there to charge back against?
Or.
Just sell your bike to someone who isn't a criminal. And who's planning on paying for it with their own money.
Radical idea I know. But I'm crazy like that.
Woah there Neil, less of the far out suggestions. Let's try and keep this grounded.
Quite right, my apologies 🙂
They're agreeing to pay a complete stranger via PPG. Even if it's above board, do you want to do a transaction with an idiot?
Wouldn't be the first bike I've sold and shipped on Gift - nobody got ripped off last time.
Everything else makes sense. Still interested to see what shipping cost he comes up with, the only one I could find online was £840!
Mountain Biking, as with all other types of biking is popular in Thailand. Might not be a scam.
edlong - Member
Paypal gift payment arrives - transfer the money out of paypal. Unlink your paypal from any bank accounts and leave nil balance, or even close it - what is there to charge back against?
If you try to stop a legitimate charge-back you'll end up with a CCJ from PP in the least.
As for the OP I've sold bikes to Russia and Cyprus via Pinkbike.
PayPal guarantees payments, if you accept payment via the usual channels, no 'gifts' and you 1) keep proof of postage and arrival 2) insure it for damage in transit you've little to fear. If they try a credit card charge-back or the account turns out to have been hacked PP will swallow the loss.
chestrockwell - Member
Mountain Biking, as with all other types of biking is popular in Thailand. Might not be a scam.
Second guy wanting the bike sent to Thailand (vague first message makes me think he hasn't looked at the ad). Fishy thing is fishy
This thread needs more xenophobia.
If you try to stop a legitimate charge-back you'll end up with a CCJ from PP in the least.
Source please - not saying not true [ no idea tbh] just interested -
Junkyard - lazarusIf you try to stop a legitimate charge-back you'll end up with a CCJ from PP in the least.
Source please - not saying not true [ no idea tbh] just interested -
Old friend of my Wife sold something on behalf of her abusive ex-partner which turned out to be stolen, or rather was told to give the log-in details of her eBay account.
The 'buyer' was actually the real and original owner.
Wife's friend got arrested, questioned but history of abuse and ex's criminal record was enough to prove to the police she was another victim in this sordid tale.
By this point the ex has taken the money (he didn't even give her the seller fees) and has evaded the police by being a criminal mastermind (moving in with his Mum).
The buyer / real owner claims the money back from PP, PP place a charge back on my Wife's Friend, it's about £1000 and she's a part-time working single mum now, can't afford it. Begs and pleads with them, moves accounts because even if she had £1000 in the bank at one time which is unlikely if they take it she's destitute.
2 months of scary letters, passed to collection agent, County Court Claim form lands on the mat about 6 months after the charge-back.
Obviously it's a fairly non-standard case, but her link to the thief wasn't really considered - the Police dropped all charges within a few hours, as far as PP were concerned it was a legitimate charge back, she owed the money, if you don't pay them they will take you to court.
Sadly for her, whilst her ex is technically still wanted, the Police aren't actively looking for him, if he's stopped for something else he may be charged but it's been a few years now, witnesses move on etc, but IF he was convicted there was a chance that she might have been absolved of the debt, but it was only a chance.
It was a fairly violent crime too which was worse.
mrjmt - MemberThis thread needs more xenophobia.
Probably, but...
15 hours ago
Zuesn says:
Hi, I'm interested in buying your bike
15 hours agoZuesn says:
How can i got it?
....wouldn't fill me with much confidence if the buyer was in the UK. Also ignoring that the ad os for local pickup only