[Closed] Idiot on A1 Caught on film. What you think?

Police very unlikely to do anything, no evidence of what happened prior

Got to admit though, What a ****!

Does prior matter? There's no excuse for it.

That well looks like my car, it's definitely not me! I'd have made sure you were dead.

As you can hear from the video we were trying to figure out what might have caused him to be like this? As my mum said you over took him in a 40mph zone. We believe he was screaming and shouting at us to put doubt into our mind of what my dad did, so if we did crash into the back end of him, it would be entirely our fault and the insurance company would pay out to him.

Female voice in your car = very sensible. No one listened to her.
But yeah, clearly something going wrong in the other driver's brain.

Er...

[quote=captaintomo ] As my mum said you over took him in a 40mph zone. Well yes we did at like 50mph but it was a standard over take that put no danger to him or his family.
A straight up admission of guilt right there. Would you like me to pass on your fathers name, address and licence details to L&B Polis for you?

Yawn. Does it really need documenting? Some people are just dicks.

If he was asleep while going 190 mph in reverse however...

Well yes we did at like 50mph but it was a standard over take that put no danger to him or his family

Hmmm, by virtue of you breaking the speed attributed to that road based on the safety of drivers it's possible he was annoyed at you.

By no means a suitable reaction from him though, a very stupid thing to do. This is why I have an in car camera, surprising how much of this goes on.

I think the guy just had small engine syndrome

No one comes out of that looking good, if I was a police officer and you came in with that, I would be having a word with you about your own irresponsibility.

It also fails on an entertainment level, it's just not up to the standard of even the most mundane Russian dash cam footage.

So you and your family acted like cocks on the road, because someone else was also a bit cockish, and did it in a rather dull fashion. Not really worth exposing on the internet is it.

How else should we expect people to drive on a

duel carriage way

So, I'm guessing the Op has had a change of heart and removed the video. Perhaps there was more than one idiot on the A1.

haha woo

Disappointed. Wanted to watch video!

Please OP. Let us see. We're asking really nicely.

.?? Why remove OP?

Probably reported to the youTube police for being filmed in portrait

Didn't have Daddy's permission...?!

He he, that's funny.

Panicked and removed the video and admission of speeding eh ?

Good work OP.

The fail is very strong in this one.

Please put the video back

I must admit I flipped at someone coming out of Edinburgh. Car dawdling, so I overtook...and the car accelerated to match me. It was either slam on and back in or a head on. Thats the only time I'd punch someone on the road. Utterly pathetic.

Yours is different though- did you cut back in too soon to prove a point or overtake in a bad place?

"L&B Polis"

Gaunnae go back in time? :p

I wouldn't worry about not seeing the video. I watched it and it's a minute of my life I will never get back. Use your minute more wisely.

I think this would be an adequate replacement video... NUTTTTTEEERRR!!

oh.

or

HEELLLLPPP!!!

On the last clip the driver with the cam could have lifted off as he/she KNEW what was going to happen so just as ****ing stupid.

I hate those 'must shut the door asap types' as much as the change lane to hug the bumper of the car infront asap.

Haven't seen the OP, but in both of those videos by DezB, the drivers of the camera cars aren't driving in a considerate way.

In the first, the camera car shouldn't be in the overtaking lane unless overtaking. Their speed was identical to the white van.
I've no time for undertakers as it's simply dangerous, but it's easy to see why people get frustrated.

In the second, if someone indicates to change lane, you are obliged to give way to them. AFAICS the silver focus is indicating through the whole clip.

In the second, if someone indicates to change lane, you are obliged to give way to them.

No you aren't. An indicator isn't a priority. Just like those who come barrelling down the slip road think its their god-given right to join asap. In the case of the above its wise to lift off as the driver has driven right upto the car infront/its a potential hazzard to carry on/cover your lane as the idiot will change lanes anyway.

I see LOADS of moves like this on the M60 every evening. LOTS of multiple rear-ends too funnily.

I hate those 'must shut the door asap types'

I had somebody try to do that to me in a shiny Merc whilst I was already halfway into their lane in our less-than-shiny works Nissan Patrol. Not quite sure what he was trying to achieve, but it was quite amusing whilst he tried. When I first checked, signalled, and began the manoeuvre, he was more than five car lengths back - he must have booted it to attempt to get alongside.

In the second, if someone indicates to change lane, you are obliged to give way to them.

Well, you're not (see merging onto the carriage way - the dashed lines are give way lines), but if it is safe and convenient to do so, it certainly makes everyone's lives easier

"if someone indicates to change lane, you are obliged to give way to them"

Please put my mind at rest you don't actually drive do you?

#stwisawesomedriver

Please put my mind at rest you don't actually drive do you?

168

Being overtaken. If a driver is trying to overtake you, maintain a steady course and speed, slowing down if necessary to let the vehicle pass. Never obstruct drivers who wish to pass. Speeding up or driving unpredictably while someone is overtaking you is dangerous. Drop back to maintain a two-second gap if someone overtakes and pulls into the gap in front of you.

147

Be considerate. Be careful of and considerate towards all types of road users, especially those requiring extra care (see Rule 204). You should

try to be understanding if other road users cause problems; they may be inexperienced or not know the area well
be patient; remember that anyone can make a mistake
not allow yourself to become agitated or involved if someone is behaving badly on the road. This will only make the situation worse. Pull over, calm down and, when you feel relaxed, continue your journey
slow down and hold back if a road user pulls out into your path at a junction. Allow them to get clear. Do not over-react by driving too close behind to intimidate them

So what do you think the considerate thing to do in that case above then? Certainly not what he did and creep forwards even though he could see the focus was coming out anyway.

In the first, the camera car shouldn't be in the overtaking lane unless overtaking. Their speed was identical to the white van

He may not have been rapidly "making progress" but he wasn't exactly dawdling.

Nice excerpts. They don't exactly explicitly oblige you to yield to an indicating car though, do they?

Oh dear oh dear. Those videos were just supposed to fit the description of a boring video - Both showing alledged NUTTERS doing stuff you see on the motorway EVERY SINGLE DAY. Weren't supposed to cause an argument or "in that video you can clearly see..." comments.
Sometimes I forget I'm on STW I supposed. 😆

Strange comment - you think that being considerate is dangerous?

D0NK - (to your first post) I see your point. It may have been that the camera car allowed the white van to pull out.

I guess my reaction was more due to people seeing outside lanes as somewhere you can safely carry out an overtaking manoeuvre, versus somewhere you can drift along at a certain speed.

Zokes - Again - I see your point, I did go searching thinking that I would find an explicit example. I interpret it as part of being considerate - especially given the rules in 168.

I guess unless we have a motorway driving instructor/tester in our midst we're not going to know what the recommendation is in those circumstances. Personally I think the only safe thing to do in that instance was to hang back as soon as you realise that someone wants to enter your lane.

Oh dear oh dear. Those videos were just supposed to fit the description of a boring video - Both showing alledged NUTTERS doing stuff you see on the motorway EVERY SINGLE DAY. Weren't supposed to cause an argument or "in that video you can clearly see..." comments.
Sometimes I forget I'm on STW I supposed.

Here's a challenge for those who have to drive on motorways. Try and maintain the 2 second rule for any length of time in the outside lane of the motorway. Its impossible, as all the morons think thats an acceptable gap to jump into!

Here's a challenge for those who have to drive on motorways. Try and maintain the 2 second rule for any length of time in the outside lane of the motorway. Its impossible, as all the morons think thats an acceptable gap to jump into!

The radar cruise control on my car is set to maintain a suitable gap and you're right a lot of people think it's a suitable gap for them to jump in to. Pain the backside!

I did go searching thinking that I would find an explicit example. I interpret it as part of being considerate - especially given the rules in 168.

I'd say you are right that it is "considerate" to let someone out if they are indicating (and it is safe to do so) but there is a pretty BIG difference between it "being considerate" and being "obliged to give way to them".

Sadly too many people seem to think that turning on an indicator means everyone else has to accommodate them.

Here's a challenge for those who have to drive on motorways. Try and maintain the 2 second rule for any length of time

Yep. In fact just try doing that on [i]any[/i] road.

Another (equivalent) rule of thumb is that you should leave 1 car length for every 5mph. Which I'm sure good advice, but practically impossible. 🙁

I guess unless we have a motorway driving instructor/tester in our midst we're not going to know what the recommendation is in those circumstances.

bigyinn - Member

Here's a challenge for those who have to drive on motorways. Try and maintain the 2 second rule for any length of time in the outside lane of the motorway. Its impossible, as all the morons think thats an acceptable gap to jump into!

If you start on the M74 and work south, initially it works perfectly but as you get near to Tebay the pressure just slowly rises til without really noticing it happening, 2 seconds is too big a gap...

But then, head for Manchester, hit the ring road and suddenly 2 seconds isn't just a gap big enough for 1 car to pull into, it's a gap for a roadtrain of 3 to pop in 😆

I was actually impressed the Focus driver bothered to indicate, many folk just dive over. If I had been driving the camera car I would have backed off. It was obvious he was coming over whether you wanted him to or not so why be an arsehole yourself?

Yeah, but he indicated in a CRAZY NUTTER PSYCHO way.

People who have clusters of near-misses, close-calls etc etc (who then film) aren't entirely blameless.

If someone seems to have alot of near misses I'd say LOOK AT THE WAY YOU DRIVE YOU TOOL.

Alexsimon
"Strange comment - you think that being considerate is dangerous?"
No but your belief that a driver is obliged to give way to an indicated manoeuvre is . In the example of the second clip the indicating car was being overtaken so clearly breaches the highway code you quote by pulling out dangerously in front of the overtaking vehicle because his flashing light gives him a mystical priority and invulnerability . As a good rule of thumb your manoeuvre is not courteous or safe if it imposes a need to brake or manoeuvre on another driver.

I never said the focus driver wasn't at fault. There are various things that focus driver does wrong. All dangerous.
I just think the camera car could have handled it better. It was obvious what was going to happen and we see it all the time. What he did was also dangerous (i.e. driving as if the car hadn't pulled out at all).

Here's a challenge for those who have to drive on motorways. Try and maintain the 2 second rule for any length of time in the outside lane of the motorway. Its impossible, as all the morons think thats an acceptable gap to jump into!

Is it acceptable to just sit in the outside lane?

I think , unlike A simon*, the highway code is pretty clear on this one

Neither is great driving IMHO

*

Being overtaken. If a driver is trying to overtake you, maintain a steady course and speed, slowing down if necessary to let the vehicle pass. Never obstruct drivers who wish to pass.

I assume we all agree the car is being/about to be overtaken so I think your quote disproves your point....they should have slowed down to let them pass not pulled out which obstructs the pass.

Beina a 60 mph inside lane pootler my main problem is the middle lane hoggers who get upset when I pass a truck by using their lane. About 3 or so a week go mental , when they eventually reach me, even though the third lane is completely empty

You don't know what's behind the camera car though, he might have had a bumper sitter of his own limiting his choices.

Have to say, UK dash cams are rubbish, we need some crazy Russians.

Obviously the first thing that popped into my head was:

Two rules people!!

Give way to the right

Keep left unless overtaking.

How many times? 🙄