[Closed] iDave diet, who done it?

Rather than having 5 a day of fruit and veg, just having 5 a day of fruit only. If that makes sense!

That castle is in India, checked the URL it seems to be Jodhpur. The singer, don't recognise him.

What's with the games and the band?

CG fruit is not that nutritious, but veg really is.

that's just deliberately provocative

Fruit is great though.

I had fish and chips tonight... that's 'in' right?

The tattoo I wanted to post would've got me banned... no doubt.

fruit is bad if you want a 6 pack

I eat loads of fruit, particularly berries. No cream mind. Tomatoes also.

Am going to stop eating fruit for a week anyway.

Edit: I'm not after a 6 pack, still have a thyroid problem so want to experiment a bit with food.

The singer is Barry, right?

Not to be confused with...

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RIP

my youngest son was born to the sound of barry singing. barry white though

CG the diet might help you feel better - I certainly feel generally better on it.

Oh, honestly. Why can't people take this thread seriously. There was a whole page of diet related stuff today. I was hopeful. Now it's just degenerated.

iDave, Molly reckons tzatziki is out. Banana is or is not a bean?

Barry manilow.

I thought bananananana was a berry?

I need a pink ferrari DD, how's cash flow?

Surely you mean conceived?

I might have to try quitting fruit for a while.. it's gotta be easier than fags, surely?

I also reckon coleslaw is in. I have been fielding questions whilst you were away iDave 🙂

iDave, books very healthy. A lot of discussion took place today where it looked like mol was muscling in under the guise of helpfulness. We need to keep an eye on him. 🙂

British strawberries are in abundance. 8)

I reckon I could set myself up as a coach and improve people's cycling. I'd not be as good as the real thing but my punters wouldn't know that. I'd just undercut you all. £14.99 for a 6 month plan over the internet. In fact, maybe a website where you put in your goals and it schedules training for you.

See? Told you. Mol, join us instead. Car model and colour?

Jeez, have you seen the Classifieds today? Bling bikes! Thank goodness they're all too big, phew!

Grey Toyota Prius please.

what about when they asked you about 2-3 DPG?

Well * guys, I don't need you anyway.

I just had my best recipe yet.

Pan: chuck in onions, chilli, garlic, can of mixed beans, can of tomatos, 2 bags frozen steam veg, load of quorn chicken stuff. Cook for about an hour, eat.

CG, I looked on American eBay the other day for lenses - almost had a conniption. In the end only bought one of them 😯

Here's my dilemma, I have been following the rules and tonight on my way home I bonked. I ride 30 mile commute 2 or 3 times a week. I had a huge lunch of salad beans and chicken although I missed breakfast I have to admit. I've been using torq recovery drink as my extra energy source after a commute on a night? Clues??

Banana is a herbaceous shrub

what about when they asked you about 2-3 DPG?

I have a box into which they type questions - it just forwards you to wikipedia.

EDIT: read the page on it, how very interesting 🙂

ti_pin_man - try more carbs during the ride maybe?

molgrips - you've lost me! Camera lens or eye lens?

ti_pin_man...I share your pain. Commuted yesterday (only 8 miles each way) then went kickboxing training for 90 mins. I had no energy at all. I have been super religious on the diet, but think I may need some more energy/carbs when I exercise.

CG - camera of course, have you not noticed all the camera threads recently? 🙂

the official diet sheet does say at the end about having simple carbs when you're training

molgrips - no, sorry. 😳

I have been having my 30g carbs following exercise, think I might need some before as well!

Still, not hungry whatsoever, just tired. The girls in the office are loving it. One of them said to me yesterday 'I think I'm doing it wrong...I'm not hungry!'

I'm eating a naan bread so large I could use it as a duvet!

Is it made from banana flour emsz?

my nan made lovely bread

Had to have been soda bread. Actually, is soda bread in? The one I make has no refined carbs.

Don't think so Deadly. It's home made iDave, it just grew a bit big. 😆 To make you feel better, I'm eating left over chick pea, chorizo,and chicken casserole.

just got back from riding, starving

Yeah that's a good shout, I think I need more carbs than I am getting and I think I'll leave some recovery shake at work in the morning so I am fuelled for the ride home.

Anybody else bonked and found something that helps??? It's depressing when granny on her shopper with little dog in front basket overtakes me! 😉

What is bonking?

I had my first iDave breakfast this morning of a 3 egg omelette, pre my 20 mile commute. Was a banana ok for my carbs?

Not feeling hungry... yet.

better carbs would have been a tin of lentils mixed with the eggs. never mind eh, [s]god[/s] deadly loves a trier

I'm now 5 days in - doing it strictly so far (to see if it's sustainable for me) and came back from windsurfing last night, ravenous, and tucked into the spag bol I'd made earlier.

Well, Mrs BigJohn had spag bol, I had adzuki bean bol. Half a can of adzuki beans in a saucepan with 1 crushed garlic clove, 2 pieces of star anise, and a shake of caraway seeds. Much better than pasta.

I'm enjoying it, and I'm not hungry.

Are you allowed to skip breakfast? I don't usually have anything, and I'm not hungry now.

Oh, and this week I've learned that Tesco Chorizo has as much in common with chorizo as an Appollo bike has in common with a bike.

Dave... that sounds ****ing disgusting. I had a ceral bar with them for my carbs!

TSY add some carraway and chili seeds to the lentil/egg mix

BigJohn, I have some weekend 'strategies' to send you. When I'm less not busy than I'm currently not.

68.3kg this morning!

lowest i've ever been

all out the window this weekend as i have a stag do in torquay 🙁

tipinman...only way i can recover from bonking is sugar/chocolate, which i had to do on sunday's ride.

I slipped up last night and had chocolate. Two days back on carbs and the sugar cravings are back with a vengence 🙁 I also have a thumping headache 😥

I have been having my 30g carbs following exercise

@sx-xc - I found 30g was sometimes not enough during. So I took some before and after. I think it's ok on the diet, and I continued to lose.

However this week's been a bugger - too busy to get the riding in, a fair few diet fails and I feel like crap too. Drove in today, just tired, but I think it's not diet related.

Headache? You need jaffa cakes and...

only way i can recover from bonking is sugar/chocolate, which i had to do on sunday's ride.

DGOAB> are you not carbing it up on rides. before and during?

I'm drinking 1 bottle of torq mixed drink before a race and another during (kinda like insurance) and i'm still losing weight

Btw folks I found these helped regulate carb intake:

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The pee testing strips that doctors use. One of the things on it is ketones which will show up if you aren't having enough carbs - I think... hopefully iDave will correct me if I am talking arse 🙂

Spoke to a client earlier this week about her challenge with diabetes. Sounds like her doctor has put her on a very similar diet (up the legumes, remove 'bad' carbs, and even have a day off to pig out). So Dave, have you found any diabetic types getting into this?

Ooh, good. I'm just seeing how close I might be able to stick to the regime, because I'm allergic to doing things half-heartedly.

It was a strange feeling walking down the lesbian aisle at Tesco, alone, looking for the quinoa, gram flour, falafel mix, adzuki beans etc., and even stranger finding that I was making even better versions of stodge than the normal bread, rice and potatoes that usually accompany my meals.

I might even have quinoa with my spare ribs and cauliflower & broccoli stir fry tonight instead of noodles.

Chips tomorrow though.

EDIT - actually, I am trasgressing. I have 2 espressos a day (Happy Donkey Sumatra Mocha beans at the moment, beautiful, stop by and sample one, Dave) and I can't manage without a spoonful of white sugar)

BJ - try a pinch of cinnamon in the espresso instead of sugar - not as odd as it sounds and powerful insulin suppressor

are you in this afternoon?

MG - my philosophy is to remove complexity. pee strips may well do what they do but they're just more 'stuff' (and cost) that adds to information that we don't necessarily need. instead of adding more, take away more. IMO

Headache? You need jaffa cakes and...

Will be interesting to see my performance racing on sunday after the last few weeks. Wish me luck 🙂

*feels horrible*

Edit trickydisco...no hadn't been drinking energy stuff before a race. I use high 5 4:1 rather than Torq. But i'm thinking along with a coffee on the way i might try to get through a bottle before the race. No idea what i want/should be consuming on sunday though as it'll be the longest i've raced in (distance isn't the issue, more keeping the speed up over the distance)

Wish me luck

Good luck. If you feel a tug at the last climb, it'll me me lassooing your saddle with a bungee 😀

A valid stance.

However for me my brain is always asking questions and seeking answers. These provided one. However it must be said we actually bought them for Mrs Grips' pregnancy so they were just lying around the house when I used them 🙂

BJ - re the espresso, I also often don't like some of the flavours of neat espresso or black coffee, but I find some espressos very easy to drink and others not.

Try different espressos - something like Old Brown Java is quite 'dry', Costa Rica can be pleasantly nutty and easy to drink.. or there's Australian Skyberry which is fruity and sweet. (note those are all from Whittards 🙂 )

DD...i'm not doing the etape - i'm in fife doing the women's and vets road race. 🙂 Good luck for the etape to you though.

Oh right, sorry, thanks all the same. I need it. 😳

If i was i'd have said in my email as you'd be welcome to a tow up the climb 8) You'll be fine - the routes not tough. Wanna swap - i'm not sure i can ride at race pace for 50miles yet!

Major, major downer, advice sort to prevent cake and pick n mix binge 😥

Wk1 lost 5 lbs
Wk2 lost 2 lbs
[b]Wk3 Put on 3 lbs

Have been on it strict all week (same as previous 2 weeks)

Breakfast :- Bacon, scrambled eggs, smoked salmon, baked beans

Lunch :- Chiken, Mackrel or Tuna with chick peas, loads or different beans, (don't know the names of Mrs does it for me) tomatoes, chillies.

Dinner :- Chiken, Lamb chops, Steak, Home made Chilli with Veg or salad, Quinoa has been used regularly or Butter bean and butter nut squash mash.

At least 2 ltr of water per day plus only black coffee (no sugar), have done 8 hours on the bike this week and kept to 30gr cabs prior to and per hour during excercise and a protein recovery after.

Im certainly not slim and trying to eek out the last little bit, 14st 7 lbs this morning 🙁

Dirtygirl, I am going to buy some energy drink for during a ride, I usually just do water and then a recovery shake at home each might but it's time to have an energy drink on the ride... hope the ride home tonight is ok. I can always poodle home, cruise...

baked beans

Are these not off-limits? Too carby/sugary?

a colleague has an electronic body fat analysis thingy, two people have had shocks (25% bloke and 31% girl) both fairly active...... their diets changed almost instantly

I was surprised that im 13%

mrsalias is just finishing week two on iDave
the morning weigh ins sound like things are going well
she has just restarted her 'running' program and is hoping to get moved from beginners to improvers/intermediate with her swimming classes, amazing what someone can do when they put their mind to it

Hmm, currently sampling a coffee with a dash of cinnamon. Not bad. But not great. Might be quite weird in tea methinks.

Spiced tea = chai, Indian style?

a colleague has an electronic body fat analysis thingy, two people have had shocks (25% bloke and 31% girl) both fairly active

its no bad thing
31% girl has cut the crap sugar out of her diet this week and 25% bloke has foregone his mid morning bag of crisps for the last few days

there are a couple in here that are too scared to find out!!

Chuffed to bits so far, will be two weeks on Monday and 4.5lbs off. No exercise either after as injured. Cheat day today! Where is that Easter chocolate!!

Let me know when you want to pop in Dave and I'll fit my errand around it.

Do you want one out of the Classic or the bean to cup Titanium I've just been given? I'd go for the Classic.

Oh, hang on, you're there today aren't you, not here?

5 days into the diet, stuck religiously to it except;

2 cups of tea with milk

1 packet of wine gums and a packet of chocloate buttons on Wednesday before I went to the gym, but then couldn't go.

Some prawn crackers and sweet chilli dip to go with an otherwise compliant thai meal.

Lost 2kg and, more noticably, 2 notches on my belt!

This was meant as a distraction for while I was away on assignment, at this rate I'll hit my first target before I leave!

chai

Aye, that's the name I was trying to remember. Need to find a healthier way of making it though. Chai latte is bang tidy.

*Group applause for TINAS*

Btw you can make chai by brewing tea along with some whole spices (ie cinnamon stick, cloves etc) or just by the twinnings tea bags with them in.

Is porridge ok made with water? I think I prefer it to with milk anyway, which I think qualifies me as weird.

*Group applause for TINAS*

*bows*

I'm more supprised than anyone probably, wonder if my average speed on the road bike will have improved if I no longer have to lift my belly up with each stroke?

Is porridge ok made with water?

No, porridge is a grain and hence a white carb and hence out.