[Closed] iDave diet, who done it?

No Gram Flour in Waitrose, I'll have to not wash for three days and then go to Sainsbury's, with a hat and false tash on 🙁

What is the answer to the Tomatoes?

7 lbs in two weeks and fingers crossed for another good result Friday!

good work there hugh

tomatoes fine

my dad has lost a stone in a month. if a 79 year old Irishman can stop eating spuds..... no excuses elsewhere

BigJohn, sorry, been a bit busy tonight.....

Is ploughmans pickle allowed?

You'll upset the ploughman

It's probably got lots of sugar in it

Is sugar-free lime pickle allowed? Too much fruit?

gentleman's relish ?

DD, I'm going to come up with the iDeadly diet. speshly for you.

gentleman's relish ?

*slurp*

Is polenta chips allowed?

Surely polenta is maize and therefore out?

Surely polenta is maize and therefore out?

Bugger 🙁

bit early for me deadly, ask me again just before lunch

Cous cous? Can I eat cous cous?

Cous you can.

you can eat cous cous - unless you're on the iDave program in which case you can eat it once a week. or you send DD some cash, then we can classify its use as 100% compliant.

Ahhh, I see. What about fruit?

More seriously... can I eat fruit as my quick acting carbs after exercise? In which case the fruit I have for breakfast, lunch and tea is ok?

These questions are going beyond the "free" advice parameters.

Do you need a dodgy accountant to help out with the finances?

I can offer my services as payment in kind.

I don't think fruit are fast acting carbs. That's not why they are on the no list afaik.

Couscous is made from semolina, and so no, I don't think so. Sorry! Try quinoa instead, which is a bit pricier but pretty much just protein.

They gotta be Molly... all that fructose... I'm assuming the same applies to my lunch time pint of milk and peanut butter and jam sarnies.

Am I right?

Fructose is low GI I think.

However it has other side effects which are undesirable for those wishing to lose weight I believe. Milk is also low GI but has undesirable side effects.

Just starting this want to shift 6-10kg after becoming a fatty one day in but missing tea badly and don't drink coffee so question is if I still have tea with skimmed milk 3-4 cups a day how badly do I comprome the diet considering the no diary rule

the no diary rule

There's no rule saying you can't keep a daily record of what you consume. I am preparing a website where you can do this though - for a small fee. 🙂

You coudl always MTFU and drink black tea? Try a lighter variety like Darjeeling, which is much better without milk or sugar imo. Tetley and the like are designed to be drunk with milk so I find are a bit astringent without it.

However the logical course of action would be to try it with the milky tea and see if you lose weight 🙂

Been discussing the diet with other fitness obsessives... is it actually possible to train 2 or more times a day on the diet?

I'm already struggling to get 2,500 kcals in even with fruit, nuts, bread and milk.

Quite fancy giving this a go, terrified about the lack of beer involved though and the feasibility/consequences of consuming a curry, fish and chips, a packet of choco hobnobs and a cheese and pickle sandwich. 2 kiwi fruits and a punnet of strawberrys washed down by 12 cups of milky sweet coffee and 8 pints, all on a Tuesday (Tuesday night ride normally finishes with a couple of pints).

It is if you get enough carbs Yeti AND THIS IS NOT LOW CARB! That either means eating a hell of a lot of legumes (which I couldn't do) or carbing up around your exercise times. So before, during and immediately after.

My first few weeks were hard, until I added more carbs.

Do you really need to do this though? Surely you are skinny already?

So before, during and immediately after.

What carbs are you consuming then around these times Molly?

I'm certainly not skinny, but have been told I don't need to lose weight... still reckon I can drop a bit to get to a fighting weight though.

.. is it actually possible to train 2 or more times a day on the diet?

Do you really want to train more than 2 times a day? surely this is over training?

During the winter i was training 2 times a day (lunch and evening) for an hour at time. This has now cut right back as my coach said it was far too much with racing. Loads and loads make the mistake of training far too much

Yes, 3 ideally.
No.

Tetley is that even Tea? I did MTFU yesterday and drank black tea but as you allude to it's rank so i cried off like a big blouse. Will try darjeeling and earl grey and maybe the old slip back to milk with tea.

Thanks for the diary offer how much

TSY, diet when training hard is a different matter completely.

You may want to train twice a day, but you don't need to. It's just lazy.

agreed, black tea is rank, and it has to be pretty rank if I can't drink it.

Awesome, I always knew I was lazy.

It's not all hard training. I've got 'the plan' which obviously I've not been able to do for the last couple of weeks.

That's 5 sessions though.
Add in swimming each morning (with a focus on technique), have started climbing a couple of times a week.
A 40 mile round commute a couple of times a week.
A proper ride Sat and Sun.

Soon adds up, infact it's hard to fit it all in.

agreed, black tea is rank

tetley, pg and all that stuff yes i agree. but a nice lapsang or an earl grey, thats another matter and i would'nt contemplate polluting a cup with milk.

What carbs are you consuming then around these times Molly?

Energy products mostly. 2 scoops during my rides to and from work since I'm taking it pretty easy. If I miss that or I feel I need more I have a coke immediately afterwards - I go by feel - if I start feeling run down or really weak on the bike I reckon I've not taken enough carbs. So I either grab some more sugary things or start having huge helpings of beans for breakfast.

Add in swimming each morning

You sure you need to swim every morning? Sometimes less is more.

I'm worrying my 3 cream eggs last Friday followed by a whole large pizza may have scuppered my weight loss. 'Only' 3lb in 10 days.

I hate baked beans 🙁 Plus I don't have a proper breakfast until after I've swum... banana and ceral bar in the car on the way to the gym normally.

Maybe I don't need to swim every morning, did kettle bells instead on Monday as that's a yoga day (forgot about yoga twice a week). Swimming is a nice way to start the day though 🙂

Wait a minute - CAR on the way to the GYM?!

Dear me!

Ha... I live an hours ride from the gym/work.

Man needs to rest sometimes!

I've started this [s]diet[/s] new way of eating, on Monday 84kg start weight.

Like others I'm finding breakfast the hardest meal to replace, I've been adicted to porridge so looking for alternatives [url=

found this recipe for a Quinoa breakfast[/url] and from that the reference to Stevia, anyone used it? Looks ideal if you've got a sweet tooth (which I haven't) and are looking for alternative sweeteners.

[url= http://www.livestrong.com/article/83180-stevia-insulin/ ]However I then found this article on Stevia and Insulin on the Livestrong site[/url] so it may increase Insulin production which is ummmm bad right? A[url= http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2900484/?tool=pubmed ]lso this which I don't really get and can't be bothered to work out, other than Stevia used as a sweetener have a higher postprandial insulin response.[/url]

Nut milk then eh? Allowed?

I'm really struggling to find a reasonably cheap and plentiful replacement for bulky foods like potato and rice. Any help?

Why do you want cheap and bulky foods? To fill you up? Make sure your meat portions are large enough, and the protein will give you that filled feeling. And loads of veg. Something you have to get used to, as it is a big diet shift. There were lots of root vegetables mentioned earlier which are suitable for a side part of a meal to replace potatoes. I had shephards pie yesterday with butternut squash for the topping. Different texture and taste to potato, but very nice. Oh and put beans into anything you can (chilli, mince, bolognese sauce etc etc) as they help to bulk out a meal, as do lentils. These can stretch out the meat part of a meal without costing much, not impacting the taste/texture, and are quite cheap to put in.

really don't see why anyone has an issue with breakfast?

just eat whatever food is around. I had lamb chops and poached egg this morning.

it's just food eaten in the morning, why make it difficult by thinking you need a certain type of food?

Just what I was going to point out, that pulses are quite bulky, imo.

However, I noticed that I just don't get hungry between meals anymore and if I'm late for one, I can go a fair few hours before my body starts complaining.

I'm going to give the gram flour flat bread thing a go, thanks Motivforz.
🙂

TSY. If you're pushed for time...... then, err, don't post, may be...
😉
Had to laugh though at the [i]drive my car to the gym[/i].

Deadly.
Have you ever taken a joke too far ?.......

Molgrips.
I'm liking the way you've come round to all this. Good stuff and good to see you are getting the results.
Of course, if all this weight lose and training leads to Mrs Grips having [i]ideas[/i], you'll have to call your next child "iGrips" 😯

I'm really struggling to find a reasonably cheap and plentiful replacement for bulky foods like potato and rice. Any help?

parsnip seems like the ideal replacement for spuds - eat it boiled, mashed (yum) or roast.

as for rice, a bit trickier but in curries, i just add a tin of chickpeas to the curry and that bulks it out to the about the same as curry and rice.

sausage-and-bean casserole for brekkie this morning. Delicious, and it makes a change from eggs 🙂 Only problem is that it takes quite a while to chef it up, compared to marmite on toast.
I think I need to get organizized, and prepare it the night before.

Tuna salad for breaky this morning.

Breakfast tomorrow will likely be lentils with Cod and bacon in there.
Similar consistency to porridge I reckon and dead filling too.

Also, all this chat about tea and milk. I did some time in Istanbul, all tea drank there was without milk, served in little figure of 8 glasses. And they loved it.

I'm not a habitual coffee or tea drinker, but while in Istanbul I tried their milkless tea and it was fine.
I think molgrips is right, you've just got to find a tea you can drink without milk really.
I stick to water during the day, maybe the vino in the evening.
😉

Deadly.
Have you ever taken a joke too far ?.......

Solo, have you ever taken yourself too seriously?

deadly, send him an invoice for 'admin costs'

If it's a girl, we're thinking of Quinoa Dave for first names. How does that sound?

CK, here's what I do

Chilli - quadruple amounts of beans in it and/or chickpeas (I eat a lot of this)
Pasta - chickpease
Meat portions - peas, green beans, carrots and veg in general.
Indian - easy one this, just make dahl of some kind or another.

I'm surprised to find that the starch portions in meals I really am not missing. I have to make myself eat rice etc on my day off. For me it's Coke and cakes that I miss. And lattes to a lesser extent.

[i]Solo, have you ever taken yourself too seriously?
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Probably not, but I know when I've had enough of your relentless crap.
You weren't funny when you started, and you sure aint funny now mate.
Cheque is in the post, ref the admin.
😆

[i]chef it up[/i]
I like that phrase.
🙂

Aw cheer up Solo. I offer you my sincere apologies for not entertaining you whenever you pull your head out of your big fat arse.

Good news. Tzatziki's in.

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where the fijizzle is jamie?!

Hang on - isn't tzatzzikzikzizi yoghurt? Surely yoghurt is out?

iDunno. iDiet told me it was in. This could destroy me.

where the fijizzle is jamie?!

2 weeks and counting 🙁
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[i]I offer you my sincere apologies[/i]...[i] pull your head out of your big fat arse. [/i]

You're all class.

Make you're mind up, either you're sorry, or you are abusive.
Though both are pretty easy from behind your keyboard...
😆

You're all class.

Thanks.

Make you're mind up

You're struggling to do the same Solo...one minute you're telling me I'm all class, the next, you're telling me I'm all mixed up and being abusive from behind a keyboard (my ironometer is buzzing madly).

Who started it chubby? (or are you on the diet as a lifestyle thing rather than reducing the size of your arse).

I'm sorry for entering into dialogue with you in the first place. And I'm sorry for not entertaining you - there are [i]countless[/i] threads on the diet where I haven't contributed at all...busy yourself reading those instead. You're obviously stuck for something to do.

Or look, tell you what. Start another one...we haven't had enough of them yet...and I promise not to post on it. Honestly, not a word.

*is scared*

Bad news by the way, molgrips has called tzatziki into question. Stay away from the dairy aisle for now.

Alright, leave it out you two.

Solo was being light hearted I think, so let's all have some humous and a glass of water and chill out.

Nah, I'm up for fighting. I think all the meat's gone to my head.

dd.

Ha !, excellent. So this is your thread now, PMSL 😆

[i]Who started it chubby?[/i]
You see, thats just class. The clueless assumption of size and weight.
Check out the big brain on Mr Darcy, everybody 😆

Obviously hit a nerve, when I told the comedian he aint funny.
Aaahh, Did I dent your ego ?.

You are 19 years old and I claim my 5 quid.

Yeah, sure Molgrips.
🙂

Back OT it is then.

If it weren't so easy, I'd keep it going, but people need serious dietary advice here, not a fight.

(Are you chubby though? It's ok, I am too...happy chubby though, not miserable.)

why does everyone struggle with breakfast? 3 boiled eggs innit.

Fighting is a good workout though. That means you can have some carbs.

only if the fight lasts more than an hour

only if the fight lasts more than an hour

It was TKO for chubby. My corner threw in the towel.

All that furious fighting keyboard bashing, you guys will be super fit in no time!

I'm supposed to be riding a sportive in four days - my tummy's going to be purple from my knees bashing it. Energy gels are in on Sunday.

[i]only if the fight lasts more than an hour
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must resist, must resist. Finds this more difficult than, err, dieting

four days is a long time for a sportive, you must be really fat

Grrrr, who wants a fight?

*looks at solo*

I post on company time!

four days is a long time for a sportive

*checks average speed on Jarmin*

Yep...I'm up to 19m/day. The extra adrenaline on the day will see me through.

*offers Solo hand (no buzzer contained therein)*

[i]I'm supposed to be riding a sportive in four days[/i]

[i]four days is a long time for a sportive, [b]you must be really fat
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😆

Yes I'm a right ****in' lard arse - a fact to which I've attested on numerous occasions. I've let myself go this last six months. But I still enjoy getting out there and doing stuff. 🙁

Darcy, I don't think you are, but I don't care either way.

You're obviously beautiful on the inside. 😀

I have a new follower on twitter 🙂

[i]I post on company time!
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I think someone wants a word with you.....
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Are you on twitter??

My tweets normally go something like..

'Just wrote on STW'
'Hit F5'
'Wonder where Molly is?'
'Might post something about the iDave diet in a minute'

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S'ok Solo. I'm a viral marketing campaign.