[Closed] iDave diet, who done it?

Waitrose do some ready to eat packet lentil things.

How about 5 bean salad pots etc?

Make some coleslaw (dead easy, some slices of white cabbage, carrot, onion mixed with some home made mayo) and have with a hard boiled egg and a couple of cherry tomatoes.

That's what I had after my 4 hour ride yesterday. Except I had a few slices of salami instead of the egg.

Today I'm going to get a pack of haricot beans and I'm planning to make my own sugar free baked beans. They should be ready for my birthday on Wednesday if I follow Heston Blumenthal's recipe right.

I was sick as a dog yesterday and having not eaten anything all day I finally managed some cornflakes in the evening.
The good news is that I was 1kg lighter today than Saturday. Honestly, I don't know what all this iDave nonsense is about, it seems that not eating at all is the way to go.

More seriously, it was hard work getting eggs down this morning...

I've been struggling again. It seems, though it could be coincidental, that this eating regime makes me far more susceptible to not eating enough - if I miss a meal by accident I really pay for it later - headaches, shakes, you name it. I've stuck with it but I seem to have gone up by 4 lb this week and 2lb last week.

BigJohn, are you losing much weight? I assume yes otherwise you'd have binned the programme??

It seems, though it could be coincidental, that this eating regime makes me far more susceptible to not eating enough

I reckon it's lower carb intake overall if you don't really focus on the legumes.

I reckon it's lower carb intake overall if you don't really focus on the legumes.

Quite possibly, my staple has been mostly (but obviously not exclusively!) meat and nuts this last week so I probably am lacking in complex carbs. I really notice when I have sugars on my day off these days - its like someone fed me acid, then I feel all bloated and ill and wish I'd never bothered lol.

Is anyone doing the flat bread bacon butties yet ?.
Multi layered, etc.

meat and nuts

Ah yes. Nuts, whilst technically allowed are massively calorie dense. I was eating a lot a while back and stopped losing weight. I only felt I needed to snack though because I wasn't taking enough carbs on either in bean form or whilst riding.

Yes Dave, I am losing weight, from 97kg at the start to 93.5kg today (after a beery weekend). I'm losing waist as well.

But I'm not actually focused on that too much at the minute - I'm instead trying to see just how easily I can establish an eating and drinking routine that I will be able to maintain permanently. It's a lot easier than I thought.

I made flat breads at the weekend to go with a curry instead of rice.

Pretty nice they were too... did make a lot of smoke though 🙁

Is anyone doing the flat bread bacon butties yet?.

Yep, last week. Bacon (must be smoked) and egg is something I can't do without.

I made flat breads at the weekend to go with a curry instead of rice.

Same here. Also made a wicked puy lentil side-dish; plenty of spices mixed in with star anise. Proper noms.

Yeti which recipe?

Ah yes. Nuts, whilst technically allowed are massively calorie dense. I was eating a lot a while back and stopped losing weight. I only felt I needed to snack though because I wasn't taking enough carbs on either in bean form or whilst riding.

Aye, it's very hard for me to find bean-based stuff around work while working 12+ hour shifts every day and not having time to prepare at home 🙁 After 5 lnches of chilli beans last week I was getting a bit sick too.

I sort of made it up with one I googled..

100 gram of flour
40 ml of olive oil
Water to get it to a good consistancy (pours but doesn't spread to edge of the pan)
Cayenne pepper and chopped coriander.

Trial one was perfect.

When I made the main batch I think I let the pan get too hot. Still nice though.

Smokin the whole place up when I made flatbreads is an issue for me too.

Like you TSY, I'm thinking I've got too much flame on.

CK.

I'm currently [i]on the road[/i] which means I don't even get home every night of the week.
I just spend some hours in the kitchen, over a weekend, cooking up stuff to bring with me and I'm working anything between 10 to 13 hours a day.

If anyone was ever shackled to the [i]rat race[/i]. Its me.
🙁

thanks for the lunch ideas chaps.

weightwise i'm struggling to lose, certainly not dropping as much as i expected (losing weight and BMI, belt getting looser, but gaining muscle and fat % according to my scales) but then i am slipping up a little with the booze still (nowhere near as bad as i was a month ago) and my exercise volume/intensity/quality needs to come up some more (even tempted to get the trainer out of its summer retirement for a few sessions a week).

but although yes i would be happier if i was shifting weight more rapidly the main thing for me is how fantastic i feel compared to a month ago before i started. energy levels, enthusiasm, mood are all so much better. i'm finding i actually dislike the off day because i end up feeling bloated and slow.

Space Monkey.

Throwing a fried egg in with your flatbread bacon butty is a genius move.

[i]i'm finding i actually dislike the off day because i end up feeling bloated and slow[/i]

I know what you mean. I don't get the bloated thing, I guess thats just volume of food consumed, but it does make me feel lethargic.

Strange really as I would have expected that with all the [i]quick sugar[/i] consumed during the [i]Day off[/i].
It would send me round the place, like on a wall of death thing, but it has the opposite effect in that it seems to slow me down.

How weird is that ?.

Jesus, talk about being ripped off. Only thing I could find at work was a salad with a soup and a plate of veg - £6.15

[i]talk about being ripped off. Only thing I could find at work was a salad with a soup and a plate of veg - [b]£6.15[/b]
[/i]

😯

Well, I made the best baked beans ever yesterday. 100% compliant with the gospel according to Dave and better than anything Heinz or Branston can do.

Last night it was baked beans with a grilled lamb chop and spinach. This morning it will be bacon egg and baked beans.

The recipe was a combo of the 2nd and 3rd ones that came up when I googled "Baked Beans Recipe" A simplified Heston Blumenthal one but with pre-soaked cannellini beans, missing out the butter sugar and tomato ketchup, but adding some soy sauce and thai fish sauce.

Stay in front of me on tomorrow night's ride though...

It appears that I have a new business implementing a combination of personalised iDave diet and fitness work to the great and good of Geneva.

Why Geneva? Seems a bit specific.

Well not just Geneva, but it's a fantastic base and lots of work and decent fees. I also have loads of connections here. Will split time between here and the UK and still work with anyone, anywhere.

I've not done the iDave diet, but I'm doing the Paleo diet. Lost 3 lbs in two days.

The iDave diet does look very much the Paleo Diet.

Cool... is there a callout fee to Munich? 🙂

So what brands of quinoa don't have grit in them? The Tesco stuff does my head in, every 4th or 5th mouthful I crunch on a grain of dirt/sand. I wash it for like 5 minutes in a sieve to 🙁

Ah, so it's not just me with the crunchy quinoa. I'll try the Julian Graves to see if it's any better. It's a fine old price from Tesco too.

The iDave diet does look very much the Paleo Diet.

No fruit on iDave.

No legumes on paleo diet

Blimey paleo must be hard without legumes...

So two weeks in and the losses have been:

Wk 1: -2.0 Kg, -0.4% BF
Wk 2: -0.5 Kg, +0.1% BF

I'm happy with the wieght loss, although it would have been much better if yesterday was the weigh-in (I really hate baseline noise!). Doing all my measurements on a Saturday when I have more time, so can't really comment on inches lost yet.

The eating itself has been pretty easy and the meals not as repetitive as I had thought they would be, planning well seems to be the key for me. Conquered the flat-breads now, they are especially good with Black Onion seeds, as Dave suggested.

I was disappointed with 'Cheat Day', particularly how quickly I felt sick and how rubbish I was compared to normal. It's 'Cheat Day' again tomorrow, so roll-on fruit, breakfast cereal, yoghurt and rice pudding. All my cravings this week.

Matt

Matt you need to completely ignore the BF measurements on scales.

so did we ever get updated photos from molly? 😀

I resign.

don't go deadly, you're the machine behind the empire....

Created my own version of crispy duck pancakes last night:

- make flatbreads into small pancakes
- stir-fry small chicken pieces in 5 Spice, star anise, soy and a little ginger and garlic
- slice leeks a la julienne
- tear up some spinach leaves

Take a pancake, smear with hoi sin, add ingredients from above then consume in major nom nom fashion.

Could eat that any time of day.

molgrips - Member
Matt you need to completely ignore the BF measurements on scales.

I understand where you're coming from here, on a day to day basis the result seems to be at best meaningless, as an example the BF% results got lower and lower all week, then jumped by over 1% this morning. All results taken at the same time on the same scales etc.

I'm just using the daily data to look for a long term trend. If over the first four weeks or so it appears to have some relevance, particularly if there is a half decent agreement with physical measurements, then I'll carry on, if not I'll just sack it off.

What I really want to know is how much easier it is to haul my ass up hills!

Matt

As long as you are using the same set of scales under the same conditions then they can be a good tool for measuring trends.

Just don't pay much attention to the actual BF% rather the change from weigh-in to weigh-in. (as I think you are doing)

The results they put out can be affected by how hydrated you are, how clean your feet are and a few other things. So if you can keep these variables the same so much the better.

Matt - the data from those scales has no relevance... ever.
Sack it off now and just start using a tape measure.

Sack it off now and just start using a tape measure.

Or better still a pair of trousers that you became too fat to wear.

My 32" waist chinos now fit again...

I judge these things by waiting until my mother thinks I look ill, then I know I'm at the right weight.

Haha... doesn't matter how lean I am my Dad still tells me I'm fat!!

[i]What I really want to know is how much easier it is to haul my ass up hills! [/i]

much easier.

my rucksack can weigh 1stone when the PC and books etc for work are in it, really noticable on the climbs and short sharp steep inclines.

Kev

My baseline measurement will be my time at La Marmotte 🙂

about 3 weeks to go and I still want to drop another 2kg. 8kg lost so far, but there is still some hanging over the tope of my trousers (when I tighten my belt enough that is)

What I really want to know is how much easier it is to haul my ass up hills!

Hill climb time trial then.

I find you don't notice getting faster up hills when you ride alone, it's only when you go out with your mates and wonder what's wrong with them all.. 🙂

molgrips - Member

What I really want to know is how much easier it is to haul my ass up hills!

Hill climb time trial then.

[b]I find you don't notice getting faster up hills when you ride alone, it's only when you go out with your mates and wonder what's wrong with them all.. [/b]

Now that's exactly the kind of metric I'm looking for 😀

Matt

Haha... doesn't matter how lean I am my Dad still tells me I'm fat!!

...and seeing as fathers always know whats right, that means you are.

...and to think you mocked those other fatties on Embarrassing Bodies.

😐

[i] I find you don't notice getting faster up hills when you ride alone, it's only when you go out with your mates and wonder what's wrong with them all..[/i]

yes, totally agree.

Kev

If I was mocking the overweight it would be a learnt behaviour... seems like I get to blame the parents here.

I judge these things by waiting until my mother thinks I look ill, then I know I'm at the right weight.

She keeps visiting and leaving cakes, as it happens...

If I was mocking the overweight it would be a learnt behaviour... seems like I get to blame the parents here.

Ah. The [url= http://www.artofeurope.com/larkin/lar2.htm ]Philip Larkin[/url] defence.

LOL - strangely I only know about that poem because the old man gave me a copy to try and get me into poetry 😀

Yeti, send me an email.

I love following orders! YGM!

Good lad.

Is wild garlic in?

molly.... pics?

He just sent me them Phil.

I think I preferred the outfit in the before pics if I'm on honest 😉

No, no pics yet.

Yeti stop spreading rumours!

Here's a SFW one....

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Molgrips must be on the Mariusz Pudzianowski diet

There he is.

So did anyone else notice the solstace having an impact on their weight?

I've been doing this for a year and have lost 2.5 Stone, my wife's lost 3 stone.
The wife spent the weekend going through some old recipe books, looking for some more variety to our meals, and discovered Gillian McKeiths "you are what you eat" contains loads of idave diet complient meals! 😯

Well i decided to go mental on my off day on saturday (i normally don't). Had loads of bread, Cheese, Cheese toasty, coffee with milk and pasta in the evening.

Saw the biggest drop this morning to 67.7kg! 1st time i've been in 10st territory

(and to be honest.. i haven't been strict since my weight seemed to regulate and I still have flapjacks, ice cream and chocolate)

So did anyone else notice the solstace having an impact on their weight?

Were you at a solstice banquet?

I've been too busy to stick to this recently, just not enough hours in the day to make suitable food and take it to work, and I've seen a gain of about 4lb 🙁

CK, can you not just make massive quantities at the weekend and keep it in the fridge? You only need 5 portions...

CK, can you not just make massive quantities at the weekend and keep it in the fridge? You only need 5 portions...

That's assuming I have weekends free, as it is I'm working on one of 3 things approximately 12-14 hours a day 7 days a week at the moment, I rely on my food being cooked by my other half who's been equally busy this last week. Managed to do some last night which should see the end of the week out at least, then next week I'm away again so that'll kill it again. It's just not a convenient diet in a modern society!

12-14 hours a day 7 days a week at the moment

Well there's your trouble, right there.

Oh and btw, modern society doesn't have to mean that kind of work 🙂

True, but in this case it does 🙂

Are you self employed or something?

CK - You sound busy enough not to eat?

Have you tried not eating... whilst moving more?