[Closed] iDave diet, who done it?

lso going to totally stop snacking on cashews, carrots and humous and reduce my general in take of fat

I heard this week that raw carrots are good (as one might suspect), but cooked carrots release a whole load of sugars. If so, does that mean cooked carrots are of the menu?

So this thread is officially fantastic ... class meandering and still the flat bread lives! 😀 Anyhow, I think I may have to join in at some point in the very near future. Have been veggie for years - so pulses and variations on all things pulse and non-wheat grain are my staple diet but I do love all things carb so I've effectively been kinda trying to do iDave lite for a while by eating lots less pasta/rice/bread etc. FYI - for compliant recipes it's worth looking up the 'Cooking without' books by Barbara Cousins.

Anyhow couple of Qs for the iDave tribe:
- am assuming unsweetened soya milk is Ok being non dairy and wheat free?
- Breakfast 😕 ? yes i know, but apart from boiled eggs am not a fan of really savoury stuff first thing and quinoa porridge is rubbish (plus the poor Peruvian peasants are suffering cause their staple food got all popular in the isles of Waitrose)
- I don't wanna shed loads and loads, probably around 4kgs to get me from 64 to 60 ish, but I need it to be all fat that goes 😀 what I've found in the past is that I do 3-4lbs ish and then I get stuck/ disheartedned and give up. Motivate me!

My top tip for the day...

Don't practice manuals on tarmac whilst wearing SPDs.

The Southern Yeti

My top tip for the day...

Don't practice manuals on tarmac whilst wearing SPDs.

😀 don't practice manuals wearing SPDs period! 😀

Don't practice manuals on tarmac whilst wearing SPDs.

😐

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Did Dave actually confirm (from a few pages back) that Donuts were OK? Being nuts and that.

I can neither confirm nor deny anything donut related

Gram flour donuts are in...they can be rolled in ground dried sweetbeans.

Haggis is in.

Tofu is in.

Quorn is in.

Right, I tried making those roasted chickpea snacks.

Are they meant to come out crunchy? Mine didn't. They are chewy on the outside and soft in the middle.. taste ok but not particulary snacky.

Dunno about snacky things but it's ****ing impossible getting gram flour in Geneva

Good job they have wine instead

Impossible to get it here either. I asked my parents to import it, failing that I'll take up Solo's offer 🙂

Are you there for work then or what dave?

Looks like I'll be here 2 weeks per month with work which is brilliant. Fantastic place, lots of opportunities, great roads, great trails, big hills to ride up, bars and very nice people and a lake to swim in - just need to overcome the cost of living being extortionate.

Jammy git!

Not to mention skiing in the winter...

Tried to make some gram flour last week as I can't get it here either. Epic fail.
Hours wasted, big mess made, nothing to eat at the end of it.

Spotted an Asian supermarket this morning, going to try there later for Gram flour

*jealous of idave*

I've had the bestest long weekend of road riding, climbing, running, good coffee and cooking up enough quorn chilli to feed me for ages :-). And I'm off again today...sitting outside a cafe with coffee listening to ladyhawke *content.* 8)

Thanks solo for the recipe, reckon I need to put in another tin of toms though as it wasn't quite saucy enough.

sitting outside

Pissing it down in murky East Anglia/Midlands 😐

Another gorgeous day here in Genevashire

Sitting in an office though - for at least another 20 minutes...

Sitting in an office further along the Alps, also a lovely day. Have bike tho.

Think I might have to man up and go for a run in the rain.....

After the weekend of cake eating I have done, it is probably vital. 8)

A run sounds good. None of my kit bar my trainers fits anymore 🙁

A run sounds good. None of my kit bar my trainers fits anymore

Given the last few weeks, I am glad my shorts are elasticated.

/procrastinates on youtube

Anyhow couple of Qs for the iDave tribe:
- am assuming unsweetened soya milk is Ok being non dairy and wheat free?

- Breakfast ? yes i know, but apart from boiled eggs am not a fan of really savoury stuff first thing and quinoa porridge is rubbish (plus the poor Peruvian peasants are suffering cause their staple food got all popular in the isles of Waitrose)

http://thehealthyskeptic.org/9-steps-to-perfect-health-1-dont-eat-toxins

Near bottom of that article there's some information on soy and some links to research on it. I avoid it as best I can.

For breakfast I generally knock up a three egg omelette, it takes some time but you will get used to savoury in the morning just got to try it really.

Good clip Jamie.
That workout would destroy me after about 5 minutes. Impressive stuff.

I hopefully would be ok on the workout.....and while I would die trying, would love to do the goal of the workout.

http://toughmudder.com/ ....or the UK equivalent [url= http://www.toughguy.co.uk/Tough_Guy_THE_Event.php ]Tough Guy[/url] events.

Polenta?

Day 3 and all going well, haven't been on the scales, but have been out on my bike!

What are you guys having for snacks, in the past it would be fruit or something like low fat yoghurt, so I'm a bit stumped?

Matt

Polenta?

Bless you.

Just don't snack.

If can't manage that it's nuts, but eating too many of those stalled my weight loss very effectively...

IME you should be eating enough and drinking enough water not to feel a need for snacks.

Fantastic place, lots of opportunities, great roads, great trails, big hills to ride up, [b]bars[/b]...

Ah yes, the famous red wines of Switzerland 😕

the red wines are actually great - it is the rhone valley here - just too expensive for the rest of the world. spent saturday on a vineyard crawl. hic. great merlot and cabernet for a start.

polenta is out, i asked that a few days ago and also found out sweetcorn is out. still smarting on that latter point.

My top tip for the day...

Don't practice manuals on tarmac whilst wearing SPDs.

i could've told you that, even worse don't try to pop a manual over a speed cusion. i did last winter one night. the impact destroyed the back of my saddle, bent a thomson seat post and put the largest blackest bruise on my rump i have ever had.

idave... in case its of use article in local paper yesterday reckons 2009 beujolais are stunning, best vintage for 30years apparently, and can be bought very cheap. they said best value was one from morrisons at 4quid.

Just chopped and fried an onion and garlic, with some curry powder and plenty of salt. Added a tin and a half of these brown lentils (linsen) you get in Germany, then a tin of toms. Simmered for about 15 mins and it's way way nicer than I thought it was going to be. Very tasty 🙂

Take away curry for everybody at our house last night.

I just had extra popodoms (lentil flour) instead of rice or naan, and red wine instead of beer and it was good.

I had to swerve to avoid the pineapple in the king prawn dansak though.

John, just order dahl as a side instead of rice perhaps? Poppadoms are quite fatty.

Indian is probably the best place for an iDave meal out I reckon.

I hear that certain recreational cigarettes can produce a phenomenon called "the munchies". Is this an insulin spike related thing?

So should this kind of activity be reserved for the 7th day?

I suspect not, BigJohn 🙂

Near bottom of that article there's some information on soy and some links to research on it. I avoid it as best I can

Mmm I've read a bit on this, and confess that having ignored it in the past, I should probably look at my soya milk consumption. It's the oestrogen effects that are actually most worrying.

Snacks - what none at all. 😥

Was wondering whether someone could answer some questions for me, apologies if they have been answered but I don't want to trawl through ~1500 posts!

Is Ryvita okay?

Can someone give some breakfast suggestions? I'm fine not eating dairy/bread with lunch or dinner but breakfast is a bit of a struggle for me, especially as I don't really like eggs. Any options?

I lost a fair amount of fat in the first week but have not lost any (actually made a small gain) in the second week. I'm weighing myself on the same day every week, first thing in the morning and my pig-out day has remained constant. Any reasons as to why this could be?

Ryvita = rye = grain = probably not I reckon.

Breakfast = anything you like from the list. I've been eating scrambled eggs (with ketchup) and sausages. Ham, beans, tomatoes, mushrooms, sausages, bacon, gram flour flatbreads, quinoa porridge.. all of which could be traditional breakfast foods. Or just eat last night's leftovers.

I am reluctant to dig this thread up again, but I am getting rather iFrustrated with my iDiet.

I have been following the plan religiously and I just don't seem to be shedding any significant weight at the moment. I lose about 1.2 kg each week from Sunday to Saturday morning, I take Saturday as my day off and I seem to put about 1kg back on during that day.

If I have a big riding day on the Saturday it seems to help, but last weekend I couldn't ride Saturday so rode 4+ hours on the road on Sunday. The result was that I was 1.6 kg heavier on Sunday morning than I was on Saturday and I am still not yet back to Friday mornings weight now on Wednesday (0.5 kg over still).

I am sorely tempted to ditch the days off or at least restrict myself somehow. For the record, I have not been going completely crazy on the off days, just eating what I would normally have had on a saturday pre-idiet.

I am nowhere near the 12% body fat range (according to scales, I am 21% but I would guess it is a bit lower than that)

What can I do to light a fire under my weight loss?

Go mad on the off days and drink lots of water.

I am drinking loads and loads of water otherwise I seem to be getting dreadful cramps in the night.

Is it OK to keep drinking the red wine after dinner is finished or just with the food?

OJ.

I have known this result, been at the stage you describe.

This indicates to me that eating the iDave way means I maintain a certain body weight.
(I have stopped to consider how much heavier I might have been by now, had I not been doing this low GI thing. I checked recently and to one degree or another, I have been iDave diet for nearly a year now 😯 )

Now, reluctantly, I may have to consider relying on [i]exercise[/i] to get to a lower weight, but then I should be able to maintain that weight much more easily through diet.

Does that make any sense ?.

iDave.
When do you expect to return to the UK ?.
PM me if you'd prefer.

I'm going to try adding some strength exercises to the cycling only training this week and see if that helps with moving things along.

This should test the knowledge of the idiet collective.

A recipe for flatbreads I have found includes arrowroot. I made some last night without and I'm guessing ths makes them a little more flexible, shall we say. Mine tasted nice but were more snappy than bendy.

I'm off to source some more ingredients this lunchtime, so can I put arrowroot on my list or is it a no no?

The custard rule isn't helping as I'm sure it could be incorporated into some manner of jelly (which I would custardize).

Other than that first week done tomorrow and all going well. Looking forward to my first off-day on Sunday.

Matt

Matt.

Just looking around, it would seem that arrowroot is a little high on the GI index.

You could argue that as you usually use so little of it in a recipe, it may be permissible, but I've not enough iDiet knwoledge to give a definative ruling.

Furthemore, I think we're moving away from giving food a [i]green light[/i] or a [i]red light[/i] on an individual food item basis, here.

Therefore letting people enjoy the discovery of what is low GI, for themselves and hoping that they want to share something.

When considering new foods and ingredients, I have always focused on the GI rating with an emphasis on it being low GI.
Thats my [i]Rule of thumb[/i].

Good luck with the whole thing though.
🙂

For softer flatbreads I use 200g of gram flour a medium egg and 240 ml of water.

Plus flavouring/seasoning.

Rob.

Thats interesting. I did muse way back on page...well some time earlier on this thread. What would be the outcome of including an egg or two.

Good Effort, thanks.

😀

Thanks for the replies.

I hadn't thought of using an egg, but I'll give it a try.

I'm getting more clued up on the [i]low/high GI[/i] thing but then it's made more complicated by idiet exceptions!

Matt

I've being doing some experimenting with gram flour, the chipatis are working best for me, the trick is to cook out the floury taste which I personally find a bit ming. I'm going to try with fried onions and nigella seeds next.

[url= http://www.food.com/recipe/gluten-free-chickpea-chapati-indian-flat-bread-189336 ]Chipati[/url]

swissDave, have to met the drummer gorrilla yet ?

I'm sure I saw a purple monkey drummer near the top of the col de faucile, 2 hours ago, or maybe I was hallucinating.

[i]I'm sure I saw a purple monkey drummer near the top of the col de faucile[/i]

Surely that would be animal cruelty ?. How much will someone there be fined for drumming monkeys ?.

[i]maybe I was hallucinating.
[/i]

Is that the next level on the iDiet ?. After long and loyal observance of [i]the rules[/i].
One hallucinates, on demand.
😆

Chicken drummers are OK though aren't they? As long as they aren't coated in breadcrumbs.

iDave - do you know anything about the Spartan 300 workout and more specifically the diet they were on?

From what I've been reading today it looks like it has similarities to the iDiet and those guys werre super buff.

iConverted(almost)

TSY.

nearly all of the 300 died.

😯

Nothing to do with their diet though, more to do with the huge persian army they were fighting, IIRC.

Oh, and there were a few more than 300 at Thermopylae

But they looked good whilst doing it...

[i]But they looked good whilst doing it...
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😆

John, that joke was fowl.

IGMC.

Did someone say [i]fowl[/i] ?

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Fair or fowl?

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^^^^^

They'll never get the hang of that morris dancing, malarkey. Carrying on like that.

And I don't think a kick there is actually iDiet compliant. I mean, its not a way to lose weight, is it.

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Sorry TSY, eating horse may be on the iDiet, but not this side of the channel.

That horse has been on the iDiet. You should see the before pics.

Funniness of this thread = going south.

iSouth at the minute.

Some ****ing big hills round here.

And rain.

Deadly - did you get that Swiss account open for me? Via a Cayman company or something? I really would like me a Bentley camper van mothership thing.

[i]I really would like me a Bentley camper van mothership thing[/i]

Yeah, I know what you mean, those bugatti veyron are a bitch for getting bikes into.

I am reluctant to dig this thread up again, but I am getting rather iFrustrated with my iDiet.

I have been following the plan religiously and I just don't seem to be shedding any significant weight at the moment. I lose about 1.2 kg each week from Sunday to Saturday morning, I take Saturday as my day off and I seem to put about 1kg back on during that day.

If I have a big riding day on the Saturday it seems to help, but last weekend I couldn't ride Saturday so rode 4+ hours on the road on Sunday. The result was that I was 1.6 kg heavier on Sunday morning than I was on Saturday and I am still not yet back to Friday mornings weight now on Wednesday (0.5 kg over still).

I am sorely tempted to ditch the days off or at least restrict myself somehow. For the record, I have not been going completely crazy on the off days, just eating what I would normally have had on a saturday pre-idiet.

I am nowhere near the 12% body fat range (according to scales, I am 21% but I would guess it is a bit lower than that)

What can I do to light a fire under my weight loss?

Would need more information really to offer good advice I would think, drop me an email that's in my profile if you want and I will add a few of my own pointers

I've been ill over last 24 hours. Ate some chicken at an airport and sat on the toilet lots since. Managed a few slices of toast today and black tea. Obviously the toast ain't allowed but is there any advice for when you're sick? I assume return to normal diet until better?

This is a 'normal' diet - not sure why would it wouldn't be suitable for anyone who's ill?

TPM.

Agree with iDave, but would add.

Stay hydrated, you may not feel like eating much, but sticking to low GI wouldn't harm your recovery, I'd of thought.

If your symptoms persist, see your doctor.

Thanks chaps, back on the beans when I finally feel like food again.

molgrips - you do find gram flour in Germany. Try 'Kichererbsenmehl - Rapunzel' from Basic AG. Here is a list of shops all over Germany:
http://www.basic-bio-genuss-fuer-alle.de/maerkte/adressenliste.html

Can anyone give me some quick n easy non meat non cooking lunch ideas? Seem to be stuck in a rut of beans and tuna.... Like it but woul'nt mind some variation.

make up the gram flour pancakes the night before and use them like wraps.