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@ solo, i'll let you know what its like after the weekend 🙂
*joins TSY at the vending machine* 8)
MG - maybe if you're planning on giving this free to your mates, make sure they are aware of the other options that help to pay my bills?
I will.. only a few are potential customers though. Will only give it out if you don't mind.
It's family actually not mates.
iDave:MG - maybe if you're planning on giving this free to your mates, make sure they are aware of the other options that help to pay my bills?
...or point them at [url= http://uk.virginmoneygiving.com/fundraiser-web/fundraiser/showFundraiserProfilePage.action?userUrl=ffflow ]this[/url].
Of course, the fundraiser goes without saying 🙂
[i]I suspect it hasn't[/i]
I'd be amazed to find a jar on a super market shelf that doesn't contain sugar.
Sugar is the hook that all the food manufs will use to [i]own[/i] you.
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The food manufs own us because they make food that we need to eat!
[i]@ solo, i'll let you know what its like after the weekend[/i]
Its a twist on a Hairy Bikers recipe, not TSY.
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I can post a method if its required, there is a sequence to what goes in during the cooking.
Also, I use a 300g bag of quorn mince, although I think you can get 500g bags now.
The listed recipe makes quiet a lot of chilli too, good for freezing. So use a big pot.
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[i]The food manufs own [s]us[/s] you because they make food that [s]we need to[/s] they have frigged with for you to eat[/i]
T, FTFY
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Its a twist on a Hairy Bikers recipe, not TSY.
Does this mean i'm meant to eat the chilli off a hairy biker or TSY? 😉
Can you post the method too then please? *goes home via the supermarket to buy a big pot* I'll have to eat my chocolate ice cream to make room to freeze the chilli then *has such a hard life*
I think he's implying I'm a hairy biker... but I don't ride bikes.
I have been inspired by reading the above to make chilli with quorn for my tea tomorrow night
i like quorn, but personally don't think it works as well in chilli as lean steak mince. however in bolognese i reckon quorn mince is better than steak mince.
Why are we discussing use of quorn over lean mince? Isn't lean mince allowed?
Solo unless you grow your own you are getting your food from a manufacturer. That might be pop tarts or cucumbers - farmers are manufacturers.
Molly.
I'm just fekkin witcha 😉
But I am reasonably anti [i]dinner from a jar[/i].
I prefer and 95% of the time make, most of my meals from the basic ingredients and spices.
Sundried tom paste is about as [i]from the jar[/i] as it gets for me, although I have been using the tetra packs of beans lately as I work away all week.
Obviously spices, liquids, oils and vinegars are made for me.
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Farmers are producers, that's why it's called farm produce. Food manufacturing happens in factories, that's where it's processed into things like pop tarts and the sugar and other rubbish is added.
Kev
Kev.
Thats exactly how I see it.
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what about GM crops, are they 'produced' or 'manufactured'?
produfactured.
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Not all manufactured food is rubbish. I don't make my own sauces and stuff (even though I can and have) because I've got better things to do with my time than cook and clean up the mess 🙂
You think that chilli is good....
You should try my homemade ragu.
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Never had a home-made chilli that was as good as the Discovery jar either mind - despite their creators exhortations otherwise 🙂
[i]because I've got better things to do with my time than cook and clean up the mess[/i]
The STW forum can be good, but its not that good.
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like your thinking Mr Consequence 🙂
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(EDIT - not you other-phil.w.... that was aimed at molly after solo's magnificent take down)
[i]Never had a home-made chilli that was as good as the Discovery jar either mind - despite their creators exhortations otherwise[/i]
You are right Molgrips.
You've come so far already since those contrarian days of arguing with iDave.
We shouldn't push you too far. You've done well.
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solo, i'm nominating you for the "rising star" award in my dreams. i'll have to consult with jamie, deadly and yeti of course... but you're turning heads.
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Against the four horsemen of STW. Philconsequence, TSY, DD AND Jamie.
I stand no chance.
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Edit.
We'll have to get ride sorted sometime.
[i] Never had a home-made chilli that was as good as the Discovery jar either mind[/i]
but 99% of those ready made sauces have the second ingredient listed as sugar. The main contents of them are tomatoes and sugar.
Kev
4 idiots caught in a virtual bromance more like!
(EDIT - where be you based in this fine country of englandshire? if you're from skottland then no, we will not meet. you're probably ginger or something and might throw logs at us. seen it on tv, not lying.)
4 idiots caught in a virtual bromance more like!
/circlejerk
but 99% of those ready made sauces have the second ingredient listed as sugar. The main contents of them are tomatoes and sugar
You're thinking of ketchup.
I do check labels btw 🙂
We'll have to get ride sorted sometime.
iDave disciple ride. I'm in. Will we recite the iDave prayer and give thanks for our weight loss before we set off?
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I live in Norfolk, county of light and big skies......
Solo - how do you fancy being the jam in our doughnut?
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No escaping out the side, mind.
Solo - how do you fancy being the jam in our doughnut?
Doughnut? You forget where you are?
...unless you can get lentil donuts.
norfolk - if we break that word down it suggests both 'norf' and 'folk', we could safely conclude that there's a risk of it being full of 'folks from the norf'.... worrying.
i need to get my shoulder healed up, get myself riding again, perfect my homemade liposuction kit for deadly then i'm up for a ride. i'll 'pencil' it into my diary for the end of summer, maybe by then i'll be thin enough to show my face in the presence of y'all
It's made with gram flour and tomato jam.... durrr.
It's made with gram flour and tomato jam.... durrr.
Sounds delicious. Makes you wonder why people would even want that sugar smothered, deep fat fryed....jam.....filled.....
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[i]Solo - how do you fancy being the jam in our doughnut?[/i]
*Starts to sweat and move away slowly, heading for the road bike.
While the four horsemen get their gimp suits on*
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Plus it's a nut... we covered nuts on page 14 I think. They're 'in'.
Think I might buy a bag tonight and eat them all. I'm having an off day.
Please leave me out of this.
Please.
*pings braces*
A bit of iDave diet serendipity happened this week. I've been doing the diet for 3 weeks and had to go back to the hospital on Wednesday to get my biopsy results from the ahem internal examination I had recently. Doc asked me how I'd been and I told him my 'symptoms' had really calmed down since I started the diet, which I then described. Doc started smiling and told me I had a slight gluten intolerance and he wasn't surprised the iDave diet had calmed things down. Got to do a 6 month gluten free diet though so I'll carry on with iDave for a few more weeks and just hit the chips and beer on the rest day!
Pembo.
Welcome to the chaos, glad you're finding the diet useful.
I hope things turn our ok for you.
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Cheers solo, nothing serious and it will help me focus on shedding a few more pounds.
Doing 3 days of riding this weekend. What do people put in the backpack on long rides as energy food?
Frogger - doens't really matter if you are on the WRT 🙂
Had a crap day yesterday and this morning. Just couldn't face what I had in the cupboard for breakfast. A complete refusal. So I had cereal.
Frogger are you on WRT?
I'm taking Snickers bars/nature valleys/malt loaf/dried fruit and nuts/armangac. My emergency meal should I not be able to eat in pubs the whole time is cous cous and chorizio.
cous cous and chorizio.
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S'ok..I'm eating it dry Jamie... not got any cooking stuff have I.
S'ok..I'm eating it dry Jamie... not got any cooking stuff have I.
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What's up? I'm trying really hard here. I didn't even buy anu donuts last night. 😥
I've been following the thread with some interest and I've decided to start the plan today. To be honest my diet has been drifting towards the 'allowed' foods for the past couple of years as I have issues with wheat.
I'm currently 100.1 Kg (seemed a good place to begin) so I've got some work to do, especially to get to 10-12% body fat. My first meal, this evening, is going to be chilli with the STW gram flour flatbread!
Matt
good luck matt! 🙂
What's up? I'm trying really hard here. I didn't even buy anu donuts last night.
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Nope, not on the WRT, wasn't even aware of it 😳 I am leading a group of 1st timers around a few trail centre routes this weekend (Cwmcarn XC, then Coed Y Brenin).
I have come to the iDave diet in a round about way, my wife is a fitness instructor, she heard about the 4 hour body book at work, I bought that, started reading it. Then one day opened up this thread and realised it was the same thing so been following it.
Dropped from 98.6kg to 92.1kg in the first 2 weeks. I am cycling 17 miles every second day and doing 8000 meters on the rower the other days. Went back up to 92.5kg 3 days ago and now been stuck there for the last 3 days despite following it religiously. I am aiming for 85kg which is what I was at my thinnest during my military service some years ago.
Not sure why it's come to a halt. I haven't been hammering the calories on my 'binge' days but read on here last night I probably should make a bit more effort to eat more crap food on my day off 😀 Also going to eat fewer cashews!
It's hard to properly binge when you have a goal in mind and you don't want to mess up a good thing either. Binging is relative, I have a stick thin friend who is an elite marathon runner and he remembers the time and date 8 years ago when he last had a piece of cheese cake so to one person a large spoon of ice cream is binging and to another a 1 litre tub of ice cream is just getting started!
The point is that binging (on this) helps your goal much more than being moderate on your day off. The MORE you binge on the day off the better the effect, it seems.
I make everyday a binge and a purge day.
The MORE you binge on the day off the better the effect, it seems.
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Jamie - Member
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Not had a good week (even with doing 12hrs riding since last Friday) and hence didn't get on the scales this morning.
Doing the Erlstoke 6hr Enduro tomorrow, how do I prepare today and do I do it with 30g of carbs per hour tomorrow?
Neither today or tomorrow are planned cheat days!
I've had similar experiences to Frogger. I had to review how tightly I was sticking to the diet and that has helped. I dropped the milk in my tea and diet cokes and any "meat" products that we're just meat (ie sausages and meat balls)
And that binge big thing doesn't work, totally mucked my week up this week!
Is tofu in?
I have been writing down my meals and there is still quite a lot of variation. In the book Tim says to choose a set of meals and just repeat them so that is my plan. Also going to totally stop snacking on cashews, carrots and humous and reduce my general in take of fat.
I have not been taking my 30gr of simple carbs before or during exercise because I haven't actually felt I needed to but I will do this weekend. What I don't know is what counts as simple carbs, is it the purest form of white carbs you can find (ie. boiled potatoes/white rice) or is it ANYTHING that contains up to the amount of 30gr of carbs such as Snickers bar.
And that binge big thing doesn't work
It does!
How mucked up? You should gain some but then lose that and more by the end of the week.
how do I prepare today and do I do it with 30g of carbs per hour tomorrow?
Your body behaves differently around exercise than it does at rest.
I think the iAdvice above was to carbo load as normal the night before, and have carbs during the ride. Simple ones. The traditional suggestion for hard exercise is 1g carbs/kg body weight/hour, which is more than 30g per hour that iDave suggests. Not sure if you should have more when racing, I suspect so though.
Im trying to cut back on Cashew's as well, I blamed them for a bad week last week.
I always have gels as my simple pre/during ride carbs?
molgrips,
Mucked up to the extent that I didn't weigh myself today! trousers that were starting to feel loose are tighter than when I started 5 weeks ago
Racing is a very curious term, I plan to ride round for 6 hours at varying speeds!
At over 90kg the old 1g per kg thing would mean over 3x the iDave recommended?
trousers that were starting to feel loose are tighter than when I started 5 weeks ago
Maybe you need a poo? 🙂
I dunno bout the racing carbs thing - just sayin what I've heard before.
I never used 90g/hour, I found that too much. More like 3-4 scoops which is what.. 60?
Hugh, I think all you can really do is have a very critical look at the foods you are eating and when. You are obviously doing enough (or maybe even too much exercise). There must be a reason why it's stagnating. Have you got the book (4 hour body)? There are some useful little nuggets in there (if you have an iPad then you can buy the book from the iBooks bookstore). He speaks of all sorts of techniques including cold water treatment which is meant to shift even more.
Best thing might be to get over to mr iDave's site and subscribing to one of his 1 to 1 packages so he can give you more personal advice. Stick with it mate!
Yar, +1 for giving iDave your money. Very much worth it.
By all means email me directly if you're thinking of some kind of official programme - you'll get better results as the plan here isn't the high octane version and doesn't include any training input.
I get the whiff of new business 🙂
I get the whiff of new business
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I'm in Geneva now deadly, can you release the gold reserves so I can buy lunch?
Any news on the Bentley?
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I've reauthorised your card iDave. I had to have it blocked after your adventures last night. I thought we were going for pink ferraris, no?
I must be doing something wrong, I have felt better whilst doing the diet, I've long had an idea that I over do pasta, rice, spuds type stuff after putting on 2 lbs whilst doing both the E2E 982 miles in 12 days in 2009 and TransWales last year.
I do have a potential problem looming, 1st earlies are due for digging soon, followed by 2nd earlies, salads and 2 types of maincrop! (That's spuds to you townies)
Have averaged 8hrs a week on various bikes for the last 2 years now and don't seem to be improving, but always thought training plans were for athlete's and I've never been mistaken for one of those, just a portly chap that enjoy's all types or cycling.
Training plans are for anyone who wants to get faster at anything...
What's the address for Mr iDave's site?