[Closed] Ibrahimovic Goal

good goal but it was hit and hope rather than total skill

The commentators and some people seem to think it was a mark of genius. I think it was just very jammy. Otherwise, I would have to consider my schoolmate Tom as the greatest basketball player of all time due to a significantly more spectacular shot he made when we were in the 4th year.

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Hope link works as on iPhone but Alan Patridge commentary is brilliant

defensive error, when goal keeper is committed like that as a defender you go all the way back to the goal line. Just in time to head it away.

Well I've been hearing about it on the radio all day and that's the first time I've seen it. Brilliant and only an England supporter would say otherwise.

Absolutely amazing goal. It may have been a fluke but he was going for goal and it went in 🙂

Totally agree, everyone is raving about it on bookface. Too much of a looper, and he looked more like he was just falling backwards to me. Proper hit and hope imo. Rooneys against City a while back was miles better (And i don't like Rooney, or Manure)

It was lucky! He just smacked it goalwards!

It was ok but it was no Archie Gemmill effort.

Good as it was, Rooney's was a bit of a shinner.

Sinclair scored the best overhead I've seen.

I was also disappointed after seeing it for the first time a few minutes ago, but that's probably more down to the hype about it all day long...

He backed off the keeper knowing all he could really do was head it away and be badly out of position.

He then performed a perfect shot on goal from a very difficult and awkward angle.

The ball didn't even touch the ground outside the goal, just straight in, bang on target.

And that was his Fourth goal of the match.

But yes, you are probably right.

Nothing special, just a fluke while he was "falling over backwards" 🙄

There's no way of knowing how much was skill and how much was fluke.

If he keeps doing stuff like that, then it would tend more towards skill.

Four goals in one match against England = not a fluke.

Surely all goals are "hit and hope" aren't they?! There's no point hitting and not hoping...

This was a quality goal - one of the very best imo and I can understand why he is the most expensive player ever (£150m in cumulative transfers!). He scored 4 goals in this match, albeit a friendly against England (who will always be shite IMO and yes I'm English). Rooneys goal was good too but he couldn't do that in an international match cos he's always crap for England.

I only saw the last couple of minutes of the match, but that was brilliant!
Love to see good goals ... no matter which team scores them.

There's no way of knowing how much was skill and how much was fluke.
If he keeps doing stuff like that, then it would tend more towards skill.

Four goals in an International would suggest he is more than just Flukey wouldn't you say ?

And being the Captain of his National Team, and the Third Most expensive player in the History of the game, would suggest he is relying on Skill a little more than he is on Fluke ??

heard commentary went to watch n the telly and whilst ther eis good technique to hit it he hts a ball overhead into an empty net
the defender running back makes it look spectacular but it was lucky.

Its a cracking goal but nowhere near as good as the media - they would hype a turd these days [ insert player of choice for your amusement] as pele

If he keeps doing stuff like that, then it would tend more towards skill.

He has always had the touch of genius but has no consistency.

Good goal but not great as a bit ht and hope but good technique

Would like to see it with the defender photoshopped out- bet it looks like he did an overhead kick into an empty net from a long way out as that is indeed what he did

Four goals in an International would suggest he is more than just Flukey wouldn't you say ?

I never said he was relying on fluke for his career. Just that particular goal was jammy.

If it were me trying it, let's say I'd have a 1% chance of it going in. He might have a 5% chance of it going in. But we can never measure that unless he continues to try shots like that, so we can measure his success rate.

I'm not saying he's not a good player, he clearly is, but there was a large element of luck in that particular goal.

Part of the genius (for want of a better word) is the fact that he even considered going for it.

I wonder what effect his Tae Kwon Do training had on his ability to do acrobatic kicks. (He's a black belt)

Just that particular goal was jammy.

It was exactly what he intended to do.

And he did it.

Perfectly.

Not sure exactly how that can be classed a Flukey ?

how many times out of a 100 do you think he would be able to do it?

Flukey is a bit much to strong though but he could not do it everytime so what word would you prefer?

That method of gauging skill/fluke would make scoring from the penalty spot Flukey too though wouldn't it ?

Can't do it every time, so when you do it's a fluke.

As to what word I would prefer, just appreciating a great goal would be fine, and not taking every opportunity possible to be negative for a change.

[Edit] - I forgot where I was for a minute. Nobody here actually "likes" or "enjoys" anything do they.

..he looked more like he was just falling backwards to me

Must have seen a different goal to me ?

I was expecting an overhead beating Hart on the line, not just looped over a few heads, so it was a bit disappointing given the hype.

Well I thought it was awesome.

it was a great opportunist goal, but I could have scored it too.

I thought it was pretty special. 3 good goals before it show it was at bit more than fluke.

Still special, I agree, just some way short of 'best goal evah..'

Not sure exactly how that can be classed a Flukey ?

I said jammy, not flukey. There's a difference.

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There's no way of knowing how much was skill and how much was fluke.

If he keeps doing stuff like that, then it would tend more towards skill.

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It was exactly what he intended to do.

And he did it.

Perfectly.

Not sure exactly how that can be classed a Flukey ?

It would have gone in the far top corner, with a lower trajectory, and he would have looked more athletic in the execution for it to have been perfect :mrgreen:. 8.5/10, a very good goal, but not jizzing your pants worthy.

the terrible defending takes the shine of it for me...

better goals a plenty

Van Basten volley still my favourite

Best goal ever?

I don't think it compares with this.

Worthy of pants jizzing IMHO. Out of the very top drawer, the nature of the game is the only thing that takes the shine off it (bit like that outrageous Roberto Carlos free kick in that respect).

As mentioned, it's the fact that he had the bottle to instinctively try it - many would not. He's reacted to something unexpected and executed it with great panache.

There's only one Mickey Thomas.

From the BBC. Class!

An example of Ibrahimovic's trademark confidence came in the build-up to the friendly. When asked to grade his international career while on the cusp of receiving his 100th cap, Gerrard responded: "Six or seven."

In contrast, when posed with the same question on Wednesday night, Ibrahimovic replied without hesitation: "Ten."

As much as i think it was a fantastic goal, its far from being the best goal ever (did someone actually say that ?)

The Gascoine goal was far superior.

As we're many others.

But it was still a Fantastic goal.

I dont think anyone said it was the "best goal ever" did they?

Trevor Sinclairs overhead kick was better I thought.

David, see my post earlier...Sinclair's is by far the best overhead I've seen...'keeper on the line, defender on his shoulder, hit it clean etc.

Never tire of watching that.

Yep, absolutely class. The ball comes across him to start with, which'd make it tougher to hit right then Zlatlads.

It was a flipping awesome goal.

But to be great, I think context has to be taken into account. And thus (for me at least), It would be Villa's goal for Spurs or Van Basten's against Russia, each of those lagging behind Maradona making the England team (including Butcher's last ditch "take him out") look like a pub league team, after he'd made an eejit out of Shilton.

And all of those pale into insignifance behind Houghton's goal against Italy in the Giants' stadium in '94. 😆

I dont think anyone said it was the "best goal ever" did they?

I didn't think so, but someone suggested it had been said earlier ?

If that's the case, whoever said it hasn't been watching football for very long 😐

Still an amazing goal though 😉

Best goal ever!

He must have a foot like a traction engine!

Just an instinctive, fancy lob into an empty net really.

Impressive but not deserving of the hype it's been given today (not Ibrahimovich's fault obviously).

Can someone post Gigg's goal where he went from the half way line. I'm a hammer but that's the best goal I've seen.

This one?

Arsenal, the team that just gives and gives. 😀

On to the 2nd page & no one has mentioned his hair?

Or the fact he got booked for scoring that goal..

Best goal ever you say?

Or the fact he got booked for scoring that goal..

So....... he got booked for a scoring a goal then did he ?

Ok. I've seen lots better. Besides, he's admitted to being a prolific bike thief in his earlier years. Off with his head!!

Viera, whoah-oh
Viera, whoah-oh
He gave Giggsy the ball
An Arsenal won **** all

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Ibrahimovic's is spectacular, but is more fluke than skill. Sinclair's is better, but for me Giggs or Gascoigne take it.

Or the fact he got booked for scoring that goal..

So he got 4 yellow cards in the game? Surprised the ref didn't send him off. Twice.

Not THE best ever... but a fine fine goal that I will not tire of watching

"Part of the genius (for want of a better word) is the fact that he even considered going for it. "

This is what makes it for me ... most would look to bring that ball down and turn to face goal to then either shoot or play someone in.

Great goal, brilliant technique. Although not even close to being the best overhead kick of all time. Usual press hyperbole.

The following are all better examples:

Van Basten - Ajax v Den Bosch
Mauro Bressan - Fiorentina vs Barcelona
Trevor Sinclair - QPR v Barnsley
Rivaldo - Barca v Valencia (completed a hatrick and meant qualification for the Champions League)
Hugo Sanchez - take your pick, he's got a compilation of them
Klaus Fischer was another brilliant overheadkickerer

But it was a friendly, against an English goalie, which takes the shine off it a little.
[url= http://www.psg.fr/en/Fixtures-Results/204003/Match-report/59752/Paris-turn-on-the-style ]50 seconds in[/url] is a good measure of how consistant he is in competitive matches, which is about the same as he was for Sweden the other night!

"Part of the genius (for want of a better word) is the fact that he even considered going for it. "

Yeah but a cocky player a goal up with seconds to go in a friendly.. you'd expect it wouldn't you?

If you're are taking this goal in context ... last minute/game won/friendly etc ... then you have to take into account he'd already hit the net 3 times

I'd take this one I think. Perhaps not as remarkable a shot but a brilliant piece of football theatre.

just to add my two pennies worth.
Agreed its not the best goal ever but these things are totally subjective. Do you prefer :
1) A mazy dribble from inside the player own half followed by rounding the keeper and slotting home?
2) Superb volley from a tight angle?
3) Great team play and passing which destroys the opposition followed by a simple tap in?
I think the thing is with this goal was that he definitely intended to do it and succeeded. The fact that he was watching Joe Hart rushing out and calculated where the header was going, positioned himself accordingly, made the appropriate calculations of where the goal was and that there was no defender in sight. Then had the most incredible technique, skill power to actually pull off the shot was incredible.
I agree he may not be able to do this every time but so far he`s got a 100% record at it!
Great goal worth celebrating - especially because you can watch hours and hours of football without seeing anything good let alone great.
Well done him.

you'd expect it wouldn't you?

I'd expect him to do it in injury time in a World Cup final at 1-1. Your lack of appreciation of skillz notwithstanding, this makes it less good how?

but for me Giggs or [b]Gascoigne take it.[/b]

As as Scotsman it pains me to admit it, but Gazza against us at Euro 96 is probably the best goal I've ever seen. Sublime skill and he humiliated Goram.

Not the greatest goal ever, but he was class.

Ginola against Barnsley

I'd expect him to do it in injury time in a World Cup final at 1-1

Would 89th minute of a World Cup Quarter final do it for you?

I prefer this one tbh.

European Cup final, millions of people watching, ball in the air an age. His arse must have been nipping a touch!